I cant quite grasp the concept of
me being non-existent. If I am non-existent, these words wouldnt be
appearing right now. I think, therefore I am. Whichever the case
is, I dont see the link between this and the existence of
God.
"the qn u shld ask is: is it more reasonable to believe in a
creator who created the whole universe or is it more reasonable to
believe tat the whole universe existed by chance? by chance usually
implies sth to do wif evolution.."
You asked me which is more
reasonable, whether the universe appeared by chance or was created
by God (notice I didnt specify which God here). I think this is a
multi-faceted question which cannot be simplified and generalised
into 2 options, as you had suggested: One, either God created the
world, or two, the universe was created by chance.
There are other options that I can
raise. The universe could have been created by some forces, unknown
to us, finite human beings at this point of time. In the future,
the birth of the universe may be revealed, just that science has
not reached that level of advancement yet.
Two, even if I believe that God
created the world,. it is very subjective as to which God am I to
believe? The Christian God, Allah, Hindu Gods, or an amalgamation
of all them? Please do not quote "I am the only way to Father" or
something to the same effect from the Bible, because that is a
feeble attempt to convince someone to believe that the Christian
God exist.
To me, the summed probability of
other 3 options of:-
1. Scientific advancement hasnt
reached the level to reach comprehension about how the universe was
created
2. Other Gods could have been the
real "God", or it could have been the working of all
"Gods"
3. Evolution
is certainly more reasonable than
the Christian God creating the whole universe.
"i can see u r someone who onli believe the things u see.
seeing is believing to u although like i said earlier, there r some
who wil argue tat juz cos u see sth does nt mean it realli
exist."
You are not accurate in saying
that "i can see u r someone who onli believe the things u see".
That is untrue. I cant see my pancreas, heart, lungs, etc but I
believe they are there. I cant see atoms colliding or electrons
being transferred during a chemical reaction, but I believe it is
true. I believe it is true because there is
unequivocal evidence pointing to their existence,
unlike the "existence of God".
"many things in life r “proven” to us thru personal
experiences. while u have seen certain things in life, i may nt
have seen the same things as u. so do i conclude tat those things u
have seen dun exist? since its down to personal experiences, i can
onli tell u tat nobody on earth can “prove” to u tat God exist
since ppl who believe in Him believe either thru faith or thru
personal encounters. the truth of the matter is u cun verify such
encounters as they r meant to be personal, onli for tat person
himself/herself. so juz cos we cun verify them, do we say those ppl
r bluffing? wad “proof” do we have tat they r bluffing?"
I certainly did not say,
insinuate, or imply that those who believe in God are fabricating
their own experiences or "bluffing". I mostly believe in those
personal accounts of "God appearing, yadayada". However, as to
whether they were hallucinating or having some distorted thoughts
at that point of them, I guess thats subjective. Like I said, those
personal accounts could just be just a figure appearing in the
mind, as easy as that. That doesn't prove he exists.
"its a pity u didnt live 2000yrs ago or u would have seen
jesus himself. then u wouldnt be asking for “concrete proofs” for
God’s existence. in fact, no one can ever see God the Father. we
can onli see God the Son at the very most. His next visit to earth
will be at the 2nd coming."
Had I been born 2000 years ago
in Jerusalem at the right time, I would only be
able to tell:-
1. Whether did Jesus exist in the
first place?
2. If he did, was he just a
commoner?
3. Whether the witness were right
when they see Jesus being revived.
IMO, I would NOT be able to say
conclusively that I can see Jesus himself. By the way, I do not
believe there is going to be a second coming, as much as I dont
believe in superstitions, numerous apocalyptic events that were
supposed to happen (Armageddon, etc). They sound more like a
child's tale to me.
Thanks a lot for your amicable
reply! 