LEGACY 2.0 Turbo

last SG · 2004-07-23T02:49:24+00:00

sigh…. this is going nowhere.

PhantomGT SG

Try here:

http://www.subaru.co.jp/legacy/b4/spec/index.html

[email protected] SG

weird. motorimage does have a pic of the 2.0GT but no specs???

[email protected] SG

its all in jap. and theres a confusing line where the weight of the 2.0GT is listed as 1700+kg

they're selling a 2.0GT for 134k right? so thats 20k for something thats roughly on par with the ATR.

PhantomGT SG

Laughing Sleeper car.....sleeper spec lor...

[email protected] SG

double

[email protected] SG

hmm well... makes life that much harder when we're trying to discuss specs. Mr. Green

[email protected] SG

anyways, heres something fun for legacy lovers:

Legacy Driving Simulator

PhantomGT SG

Just stick to MotorImage spec lor.... don't think they dare to anyhow give false information lah, wait kana sue how?

[email protected] SG

motorimage dun even have spec. if stick to motorimage spec... then its the 2.0i spec liao

PhantomGT SG

From their hand out catalog lah.... I have one with me.

In the catalog:

Legacy Sedan 2.0GT

245bhp @ 6400 rpm
310Nm @ 2400 rpm
curbweight: 1460kg

[email protected] SG

scan it?
or use a digicam to get a foto n post here?
thanx

[email protected] SG

well im off to sleep. would appreciate it if u could help get a pic of the specs here. thanx

PhantomGT SG

Cannot upload picture leh....how to do it huh?? Or you can go to any Subaru showroom and ask for one and post it here? Anybody out there got one in hand and able to post plesase help leh..

LCL SG

Yawn, no time to entertain u. Since u say Airtrek best, then it is the best lor.

[email protected] SG

hahaha... like i said, why are u so insecure about it? Why do u keep speaking like u have a need to prove something? And whos jumping to conclusions here? Maybe u don't really fully understand the context of "raining on its parade" being used here? How sad... Rolling Eyes Well yeah. Do more homework. Go for english refresher courses please.

And ditch the "bored" yawn please. its so passee... everytime ppl who wanna argue but have nothing to say, they use "yawn" try something else pls... its so unoriginal its not even entertaining.

[email protected] SG

sigh..... if u refuse to try and understand, then its really your own fault. All i mentioned is that with the arrival of the ATR, it has provided market competition for the Legacy 2.0GT, and there u are, jumping to conclusions, making passee remarks, and trying to show, what? Rolling Eyes

saab95 SG

Yep talking about the 2004 GT. Actually, I could not ask for nothing much more. 245hp is 'quite' restricted, it would easily do 300hp. Somemore pampered with auto-trans Very Happy It looks very sleek in my opinion with only a subtle scoop hinting of its performance potential.

Seriously regret getting my 95 instead of the GT, about the same price afterall. Of course 95 also very much a sleeper car with a little tuning, good for 220hp and a searing 320NM of torque. I am a sleeper car fan Twisted Evil

Airtrek turbo? Fast SUV but I think it will lose out by a considerable margin to the Legacy 2.0 GT turbo. Specs are not everything, best proof is when both cars floor it and hold till terminal velocity. Actually, I was challenged by an Airtrek turbo at the NS highway en-route to Penang, it was a neck to neck but once past 200km/hr the airtrek dropped behind, when I maxed at 240km/hr the airtrek was totally lost from sight. As far as top-end goes, I think the 95 has an advantage as it is front wheel drive as opposed to the increased drag of a 4wd system, this is why 240km/hr is achievable with only 220 hp. Think that is the reason why SAAB standard speedos goes up to 260 km/hr. Car has long legs and when given chance to unwind can go seriously fast.

This is why I am convinced that Airtrek turbo is not on par with Legacy GT in terms of performance. Look at it this way my 95 is behind the Legacy GT (stock) by about 25 hp and weights 150 kgm more. Even so, the Airtrek turbo is nowhere as fast flat out (we are not talking 0-100 km/hr times here) as my car. So a mildy uptuned Legacy GT would have an airtrek turbo for lunch at every gear. Actually, I think even the stock GT will be significantly faster too.
Of course an Airtrek Turbo can also be modded and be seriously quick but in the first place if serious speed is what u are after, a lower slung car is a more appropriate choice. Mr. Green

[email protected] SG

take the 20k u save from buying an ATR, use it for mods, then compare a $134k 2.0GT and a $134k ATR. Oh, u know why after 200km/h the ATR dropped behind? Speedo reads up to 180km/h only. If its talking about initial accel, its definately a fight for the 2.0GT. mind u, im not trying to put the Legacy down here, but im raising reasonable alternatives to the Legacy2.0GT, considering factors including:

1) The fact that u don't get to go up to even 200, much less 240, everyday in singapore.
2) Most little impromptu jaunts at the lights often last as long till the next set of lights, if not the following set. Under such circumstances, the 2 cars mentioned are more than even.
3) Ommph for $, the ATR is def right there alongside the Legacy. Off the lights its a pretty even fight, and the ATR IS 20k cheaper.

[email protected] SG

if u were to ignore the price factor, and talk about driving ommph and top speed... i could easily start talking about the 4 door Nissan Skyline GTS. Not quite a fair fight right? Why? because we are ignoring the price factor comparing the Skyline GTS to the Legacy 2.0GT. But hey, thats your exact sin too, comparing the ATR and the Legacy2.0GT. Price factor makes a big deal man. If u wanna factor out the price factor, I can start listing u family cars from hell. And the list is long. Long with many monsters which could easily eat the ATR, Legacy2.0GT AND the Skyline GTS for breakfast. Want a peep? Maserati Quattroporte. Want more? Merc E55 AMG. How 'bout another? Audi RS6. More? BMW M5. Oh hey remember the Porsche Cayenne Turbo?

If its simply motoring purity u wanna discuss, i might as well be talking about Lambos n Zondas... ATRs and Legacy 2.0GTs are not even close. Rolling Eyes

tristan21 SG

Yes it's true that the Airtrek Turbo is not exactly on par with Legacy GT.
However, i think it's not appropriate to compare these two cars. If you really want to compare, compare the Airtrek with the Forester. Both are SUVs and AWD, and turbo. It will be a much better comparison than using the Legacy which is primarily a sedan. Airtek Turbo is quite a good buy. But the Legacy is special in it's own way as well. Some people just like how the manufacturers design and plan for the car. The legacy is pretty much good in every aspect, exterior, interior, performance, safety. It is a one stop shop which pretty much explains its premium price which many are willing to pay.

[email protected] , what are you trying to prove by saying Motorimage specs are false. Please for heaven's sake, the model of cars may be same, but the specs are different for different countries. Looks like you didn't do enough market research. Sometimes, it's really useless checking global websites, because the information may not apply here. Especially for Singapore, where Road Taxes and COEs and Import Taxes play a huge part in its final price. The distributors do not want to market a car which will not be viable to sell. That's why most cars are of larger capacity overseas. For example, 2 litre Ford Focus compared to 1.6 in Singapore, 2 litre Nissan Pulsar/Sunny. 2.5 or 3 litre Legacy/Liberty, etc.

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