GE2015: 11 Sept

Ee Hoe Hean Club SG

Please don't insult Malaysians.

Neutral-Thinker SG

In the 2011 Singapore General Election, the ruling party PAP received:

1) 60.14% of all valid votes (Singaporeans who actually voted for PAP)

2) 58.83% of support from voters who went to vote (some were void votes).

3) 54.82% of support from all voters (some did not vote)

I am pretty sure PAP would return to power this election but not sure whether it would get stronger support or weaker support. What do you guys think after seeing the rallies and reading the news?

Ee Hoe Hean Club SG

Opposition will win more GRCS. PAP percentage of votes will drop to 55%.

minx SG

Hard to say. Pap made extra effort vist market hawker centre 2 times, hawkers very happy. Boast pap came 2 times.

Opps go zero.

There are many who take visit by political parties seriously. To me national issues are utmost important.

Vote pap if you are confident MOM will reject application of sing pass or employment pass holder to replace you. Vote pap if u do not care about employment for your kids in sg.

Neutral-Thinker SG

According to http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/goal-15000-25000-new-citizens-a-year , there are an average of 18500 new FT converted citizens every year. Assuming they all would vote for PAP, there would be 74000 more votes for PAP. There were 2,015,636 valid voters in 2011. So this gives PAP an additional 3.67% of the votes.

However PAP did not announce that they would not increase GST after the election unlike in 2011 so a situation same as after the 2006 election is looming so I feel that more voters would vote the other parties since they were bitten once after giving a strong mandate of 66.66% in 2006.

minx SG

I am not surprise PAP win big this time. All voices not supporting PAP are just minority online and som enlightened ones.

Neutral-Thinker SG

Here is a good set of statistics from HDB regarding resale HDB flat prices: https://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10321p.nsf/w/BuyResaleFlatResaleIndex?OpenDocument to see whether housing cost is getting to high.

Using last quarter of 2009 as the benchmark, HDB resale prices rose from 55.5% from 2006 to 2011 or an average of 11.1% a year. However it grew only by 5.2% from 2011 to now for an average of 1.3% since last election. It grew by an average of 60.7% since 2006 or an average of 6.74% per year which is substantially more than the interest rates offered by major banks and CPF.

Ee Hoe Hean Club SG

If you go to opposition rallies, the story is different. The resentment of PAP is very strong.

Neutral-Thinker SG

Key stats:

PAP's 2015 support : ?

PAP's 2011 support : 60.14% (B4, lowest in post-independence history)

PAP's 2006 support : 66.66% (B3)

PAP's 2001 support : 75.3% (A1)

PAP's 1997 support : 65% (B3)

PAP's 1991 support : 61% (B4)

PAP's 1988 support : 63.2% (B4)

PAP's 1984 support : 64.8% (B4)

PAP's 1980 support : 77.7% (A1)

PAP's 1976 support : 74.1% (A2)

PAP's 1972 support : 70.4% (A2)

PAP's 1968 support : 86.7% (A1)

-------------------------------------------Separation from Malaysia----------------------------------

PAP's 1963 support : 46.9% (D7)

PAP's 1959 support : 54.1% (C6)

Neutral-Thinker SG

Hard to say. Pap made extra effort vist market hawker centre 2 times, hawkers very happy. Boast pap came 2 times.

Opps go zero.

There are many who take visit by political parties seriously. To me national issues are utmost important.

Vote pap if you are confident MOM will reject application of sing pass or employment pass holder to replace you. Vote pap if u do not care about employment for your kids in sg.

I see it as vote PAP if you feel what they did for the last 4 years is correct, void or vote other parties if you disapprove of their population white paper proposal and dont want GST to increase after election.

Neutral-Thinker SG

There are many ways to work things out if tax money collected is not enough. One way is to cut defense budget. Last budget, $13.1 billion was allocated for defense spending. I don't think we need to spend so much on defense. We could shorten active national service and reservist national service.

We do not need so many troops.

According to Wikipedia, we have 1,456,600 active and reserve troops. We do not need to maintain such a big force. To attack Singapore, a 3:1 numberical superiority of paratroopers or marines is needed. No neighbouring country has 4.5 million such forces. They do not have enough LSTs, swimming armoured vehicles and boats as well as C-130s to conduct as an operation.

As for water problems if Johor shuts off the tap, we could build more desalination plants than attack them if such a thing happens. We current have or plan to build 4 desalination plants. 1 such plant is 10% of the nations needs. One plant cost $200 million to build. 10 such plants only cost $2 billion and we could cut defense budget by at least 1 billion a year after that. See http://www.water-technology.net/projects/tuas-seawater-desalination/

laurence82 SG

Hard to say. Pap made extra effort vist market hawker centre 2 times, hawkers very happy. Boast pap came 2 times.

Opps go zero.

There are many who take visit by political parties seriously. To me national issues are utmost important.

Vote pap if you are confident MOM will reject application of sing pass or employment pass holder to replace you. Vote pap if u do not care about employment for your kids in sg.

All the opposition pictures i seen must be faked or 2011 one lah?

minx SG

I am just basing on the strong turnout at opps rallies to predict results. There were great huge crowds turnout for opps rallies in 2011 but in the end pappiez won. After that there were netizens who said the number of turnout at opps rallies is not representative of opps winning in voting. Now there are more foreigner given sg citizenship, most will sure vote pappies.

Prediction aside, of course i hope more opps will represent us in parliament.

minx SG

We do not need so many troops.

As for water problems if Johor shuts off the tap, we could build more desalination plants than attack them if such a thing happens. We current have or plans to build 4 desalination plants. 1 such plant is 10% of the nations needs. One plant cost $200 million to build. 10 such plants only cost $2 billion and we could cut defense budget by at least 1 billion a year after that. See http://www.water-technology.net/projects/tuas-seawater-desalination/

Wow, i will vote for you.

minx SG

Sickening , starhub keep screening the pap MV over and over again.

minx SG

In you tube, too. So many viewers already. The starhub show the cantonese one, dunno if the pap infringe copyright.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9z8meqvsQo

They have hokkien and teochew also

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2rZ2y8FAls

www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_otScN-9z0

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNHGqE1SC8w

Why dialects.? They suppress dialects. Now because of winning, they make use of dialects. Ren cha pap.

minx SG

This pap govt can't even be honest on their report on haze. Walk around the street can see feel the strong haze present, blur. Nea psi is 80 to 90. Other website indicates more than 100. Foreigners also find nea not reporting the truth, they refer to other source for haze condition.

Fair76 SG

Without PAP, does it mean that Singapore can be better under the leadership of the opposition? Let's not forget that without PAP, Singapore won't be what it is today. Do you want Singapore to be like our neighbouring country? The youngsters these days might not understand but as the older generation, we should know how hard it was to build up Singapore to what it is today. Without PAP, we wouldn't be living in a first world country we live in today. I understand that PAP may make the wrong decisions sometimes but nobody is perfect, including our government. Everybody makes mistakes. However we must look at the big picture and focus on Singapore's wellbeing, not our own. I understand that everybody feels that we must have a certain extent of opposition in our parliament, we cannot have an overly strong opposition voice as every policy that is to be implemented will face strong objection. For example if the leading government wants to build an additional MRT line due to heavy MRT traffic, because of opposition voice it might not be successfully inplemented. Do you think it's fair for those living at areas with little public transport? Everybody is complaining that costs of living in Singapore is high and it is too stressful, but if everyone is satisfied with what they have and earn, we wouldn't be facing this problem at all. The government is not responsible for our individual lives, we are responsible for ourselves. There's always an alternative choice that you can settle for instead of demanding what you want but cannot afford. Personally I also hope that the government can perform better after this general election.

Neutral-Thinker SG

Tonights rallies (6Sep2015):

WP at Simei : https://youtu.be/QXG41hWJ5ho

SDP at Jurong East : https://youtu.be/voyfBg3KS88

These are permanent links ( not just live during rally times ).

minx SG

The toad frog in the well pappie IB posted idiotic irrelevant piece of shit. Still enjoying its view from the well. Very pathetic. It is living with great fear now that what will happen if its beloved pappies lose more seats or pm lose its post.

Fair76 just registered to be a PAP IB here. Loser.

Hahahaha nincompoo! Still enjoying living in ivory tower.

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