Wikileaks: Sg Education edu system not helping

last SG · 2011-09-06T11:34:08+00:00

Which has confirmed my long time suspicion that PAP pushes people into different levels of the social pyramid so as to "maintain the balance" of society.If y...

Rooney9 SG

I dun recall I was taught grammer in school. also we were not taught phonetics.

thats why our grammar and pronunciation sucks man.

Stevenson101 SG

I dun recall I was taught grammer in school. also we were not taught phonetics.

thats why our grammar and pronunciation sucks man.

Power, where got learn English don't have learn grammer one? That's impossible given the way English works. Even native English speakers won't have perfect grammer. You're already using grammer like taught and were, so how could you not have learned grammer in school ?

It's just an accent, we speak English just fine. Do you think someone from Ireland is understandable to someone in the MidWest of America? At the worst we just need to repeat ourselves a few time to get the pronouciation right, we already got the basic structure. It's not enough to make us impossible to understand in any English speaking country.

angel7030 SG

English? Do you need english to do business in Asia and especially so, China.?

Money has no grammer

Casopia-maplesea SG

English? Do you need english to do business in Asia and especially so, China.?

Money has no grammer

Is that so? Then ask urself why english is now becoming a far-more sought after language in China now?

sbst275 SG

Look...

Everything bash PAP, w/o looking what's going on in developed world..

Sometimes things has its merits... Look at say Japan, lots of uni grads, but can they find a job? Does it incur any form of taxpayers money for their degree?

Then come back to local scene, seriously for some courses is the uni really teaching? Many times it's solely on self study. If that's the case, then seriously not everyone is suitable to pursue it.

When clearly everyone has diff learning adapbility, it's rather used as a cover to bash the PAP for everything.

Anyway, there's alrdy issue w/ the 4 year degree course structure. Students for some courses are alrdy getting overloaded in order to cover the syallabus within the stipulated 4 yrs...

Anyway, the uni campus can't take in anymore ppl beyond a planned 5 yr course. It's alry stretched to its limit.

sbst275 SG

They'd rather let fewer Singaporeans get a university education and make up the shortfall of university graduates from foreign talents.

As opposed to letting more Singaporeans get a tertiary education and make up the shortfall of low skilled labour from foreigners.

From the first day you step into primary school, your career roles have more or less been determined by the greater "god".

Those jobs you want to do?

You want those service, no one wants to do... Then dun have those provided kpkb as if you're owed...

dragg SG

job expectations increases with higher education.

so how does it help us to have more degree holders if there arent enough positions in the market to fill these graduates?

Darkness_hacker99 SG

job expectations increases with higher education.

so how does it help us to have more degree holders if there arent enough positions in the market to fill these graduates?

exactly! As I have mentioned in other similar threads, Singapore is just not big enough to accomodate so many degree holders. China is already facing this problem.

dragg SG

i think many singaporeans are frustrated with the govt to the point of being irrational.

every policies has its good and bad points. it cant satisfy everybody.

there is no perfect govt. there is no perfect country.

if you compare the good to the bad singapore is still a good place to live.

my point is tackle issues that genuinely needs to be corrected. if we complaint too much on issues that are actually not bad it clouds the whole thing.

sbst275 SG

Why not make it more valuable by imparting more skills be it via degree or diploma level.

Whichever society would have diff level of people in order to get the society to be working. Need not guess how we got here in the first place, there wasn't many degree holders to begin with.

Darkness_hacker99 SG

Why not make it more valuable by imparting more skills be it via degree or diploma level.

Whichever society would have diff level of people in order to get the society to be working. Need not guess how we got here in the first place, there wasn't many degree holders to begin with.

The syllabus incorporated into each courses (diploma and degree) are industrial based already. It teaches them the student the fundamental thories and a little hands on practice of the skills that they need.

It's the perception of many elder and younger generation that a paper qualification is far more important than anything else. The paper qualification and materialism is also closely link. i.e. if you have a degree, you can get a good job.

What many ppl failed to understand is that paper qualification doesn't have any meaning when you come out to work. It's just a piece of paper stating the education you've gone through. It does not state whether you are able to be creative and apply knowledge learned in school. The paper does not empowers you to add value to the company.

What current generation kids need to know is to how to add values using the knowledge and skillset they've gained during the course of study.

sbst275 SG

I think I said le.. Maybe not obvious...

The degree is getting useless as it's getting overloaded to complete within the stipulated period.

Meanwhile you dun see values getting better

Darkness_hacker99 SG

eh sbst, you just wake up ar. our idea is the same lah. point your gun at another direct k?

sbst275 SG

end of the day, uni is not for everyone..

same goes to it, reality is, economy has to adjust to this manner... furthermore, have to look out for ppl w/ skills, as some may not be academically inclined, but they've skills that ppl dun have...

Rooney9 SG

our education system has failed us.

1) we are neither good in english or our mother tongue, written or spoken

2) we were not taught grammer and phonetics in school

3) we were taught rote learning and memorising in school

4) we were not taught critical thinking and creative skills in school

Dalforce 25 SG

our education system has failed us.

1) we are neither good in english or our mother tongue, written or spoken

It is all due to Harry Lee Kuan Yew.

Rooney9 SG

It is all due to Harry Lee Kuan Yew.

I see. why you hated him so much eh can tell ma

Dalforce 25 SG

I see. why you hated him so much eh can tell ma

Because he is pro-west and destroyed and weakened local cultures and he is a fraud and distorted local history. Plus he is one petty, narrow, arrogant cocky bastard.

And most of his social policies are all failures, but not admitted by him.

Casopia-maplesea SG

i think many singaporeans are frustrated with the govt to the point of being irrational.

every policies has its good and bad points. it cant satisfy everybody.

there is no perfect govt. there is no perfect country.

if you compare the good to the bad singapore is still a good place to live.

my point is tackle issues that genuinely needs to be corrected. if we complaint too much on issues that are actually not bad it clouds the whole thing.

good? wat good is it if majority of us cant even AFFORD a roof over our heads? check the HDB prices, kiddo. think u or ur kids next time can afford it? wake up. unless u and ur kids were born with a damn GOLD spoon in ur mouths, life in singapore gonna be hell for u. i think i speak for majority of the singaporean forumers here when i say this: WHO can afford to live here?

dragg SG

the forummers here surely dont represent all singaporeans.

if you cant afford a 5 room buy a smaller one. if you still cannot afford then stay with your parents.

thats life.

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