PAP MPs rebut Workers' Party Chairman

last SG · 2011-03-02T01:41:08+00:00

the splitting up of expenses will actually benefit those with time to spare. which includes the middle income group. the rich ones will not bother to go thro...

likeyou SG

Nonsense.

Increasing GST is to help the poor.

I don't know how they do it, but I believe them because they tell me to trust them.

Pple who said that increasing gst to help the poor means that those pple who supported thise are those that never been poor before. They ae those born in the silver spoon.

Darkness_hacker99 SG

I'm more interested about Budget VS Shadow Budget...

likeyou SG

Budget (give and return)

Leomanz SG

jackneo say "I NOT SUPID"

though im poor n trying make end meet,

i suffered , like many other, paying gst.

They say wat they like ............. n ............... i vote wat i wish

So ............ i wont sell my vote 4 $800 over 5 yrs??

charlize SG

We love GST.

Repeat.

mrObjective SG

govt already had so many ways to earn money from singaporeans that GST was not even necessary at all.

as i mention earlier COE alone can net govt around 700-1 billion a year. ( not even car makers of mazda, subaru, mitsubishi can claim that net profits.

workers levy can also net govt more than 1 billion a year.

other tax we pay.

1. ERP, road tax

2. income tax,

3. GST

4. property tax.

5. casino tax.( + entrace fee).

6. indirect petrol tax ( 40cents /litres).

You call that helping the ppl of singapore? or do it fatter the govt coffers for you blood suckers to draw and justify your million dollars salary?

very creative indeed, the taxman. a bit here, a bit there and it becomes a mountain for the poor and also the average person like me

the huge power of GST is that, it cause other expenses which does not show GST is being charged to increase as well.

-merchants use the excuse of GST to increase prices whether or not they are affected

-food, milk powder & diapers at supermarket

-public transport council to increase bus and mrt fares by few cents only every year.

-child care centres to increase citing 'costs'. children school bus to increase

-phones and utility charges (these 2 are shown but just to show how far GST can reach me)

send your children to child care, we are screwed by GST & fuel tax, try to siam this tax & employ a maid instead? still screwed by maid levy & again fuel tax.

$800 hongbao? this is the first place i know that i have to declare first on 15 april how much i want to 'bao' for someone before receiving the return hongbao. very kind indeed

reyes SG

If you want higher prices and inflation vote for PAP.

I am not trying to say, if you vote for opposition prices will come downbut at least we need someone in parliament other than the 2 opposition members to fight and question the necessity of various taxes.

i admire the courage and chiam for daring to continue to voice up for singaporeans. If we dont show them equal support there will be non left to fight for average joe like us. fighting for our survival against inflation, raising property prices( in my opinion a bubble), fighting jobs against foreigners. why do we need this kind of govt?

if we compare to gaddafi,yeah probably PAP is better.

reyes SG

even the germans are fighting against ruling regime and instead vote for the "green".

we singaporeans must stop being cowards and fight for our freedom, media freedom, speech freedom, otherwise, we might one days end up being libya, bahrain, yemen, egypt ruling by single party without election.

the true economic powerhouse has forever been the country that has freedom, lotsa freedom , do not stifle the mind of its ppl. china is exception because of its sheer population, the initial stage of developemnt will be fast, my question is can china maintain the momentum in the next stage of development?

Wiser SG

provided the opposition parties will question Papa until papa give 2000 ang pow money to everyone in 2016.

the 800 very good money leh. Will there be inflation another 5 years. Coupled with opposition parties fighting for more monies for the average?

mrObjective SG

trust me, the 800 is really nothing. with the taxes that we have listed above, it can easily add up to at least 200 a month and up to more than 500 a month.

if we were to lose our job to an FT, we cannot even last up to polling day at the rate we are taxed with this 800.

if we were to do a detailed calculation on what the govt owe us up to age 55 as compared to what other first world nations are doing for their people,

the true figure is much closer to a high 6 figure sum than this meagre 800.

angel7030 SG

provided the opposition parties will question Papa until papa give 2000 ang pow money to everyone in 2016.

the 800 very good money leh. Will there be inflation another 5 years. Coupled with opposition parties fighting for more monies for the average?

The disparity of rich and poor are widened at almost a few million times

a poor layman can save only $10k, which is consider very good

a rich person can save up to 10millions, which is then consider lower rich.

PAP give $800 to the layman, $200 to the rich man, that is only 3 times different, what a joke.

They are giving me $200

reyes SG

provided the opposition parties will question Papa until papa give 2000 ang pow money to everyone in 2016.

the 800 very good money leh. Will there be inflation another 5 years. Coupled with opposition parties fighting for more monies for the average?

none of your friends ever warn you before? if the PAP give you $100 this year. they will get back from you $200 next year. you can never beat them

reyes SG

always remember this quote “天下没有白吃的午餐”。

english quote“ no free lunch".

Junyang700 SG

none of your friends ever warn you before? if the PAP give you $100 this year. they will get back from you $200 next year. you can never beat them

This time round some get $900... die liao... $1800 to return to them.

reyes SG

This time round some get $900... die liao... $1800 to return to them.

You are damn right. paying them $1800 might be a forecast on the downside.

If you drive, you are already paying govt 27x of $1800 for a piece of COE.

The property has risen so much in last 5 year,in fact you had already started paying them back xx times of $1800.

Regards,

Jason Ho

mrObjective SG

okay, probably i just do a quick calculation on how objective i am to donate charitably every month to the taxman on just GST, not considering other tax yet

water, electricity & utilities - 150

milk powder/diapers/food for 2 children - 200

/infant care/child care/after school care for 2 children - 350x2 - 700

transport for 2 children - 50x2 - 100

min cost of public transport for myself - 100

phone & internet - 50

food for myself - 100

insurance on myself in case i drop dead while training or taking IPPT or if i met with a freak accident while in camp - 300

the above after leaving out the last two adds up to 1700/month, shall remove 300 from here for companies too small to be taxed by GST assuming all merchants are honest enough not to 'factor' them in.

oh maybe i'm spent too much, i should not have a phone nor internet, walk my children to school, restrict the whole family to 2 meals a day etc..

anyway, i have donated 98 monthly to the taxman on GST. so when i get 800, it seems i can still get to christmas? that's great, i must send the taxman a thank you note this christmas then. at least, i can still last to year end

oh no, i am reminded at home i also need to pay town council, property tax, oh & income tax, the one i used to pay the above. i guess one can't get more objective & charitable than that right? i feel i'm a star in the president star charity

reyes SG

okay, probably i just do a quick calculation on how objective i am to donate charitably every month to the taxman on just GST, not considering other tax yet

water, electricity & utilities - 150

milk powder/diapers/food for 2 children - 200

/infant care/child care/after school care for 2 children - 350x2 - 700

transport for 2 children - 50x2 - 100

min cost of public transport for myself - 100

phone & internet - 50

food for myself - 100

insurance on myself in case i drop dead while training or taking IPPT or if i met with a freak accident while in camp - 300

the above after leaving out the last two adds up to 1700/month, shall remove 300 from here for companies too small to be taxed by GST assuming all merchants are honest enough not to 'factor' them in.

oh maybe i'm spent too much, i should not have a phone nor internet, walk my children to school, restrict the whole family to 2 meals a day etc..

very detail. fully agree.

better downgrade to save on the insurance.

angel7030 SG

okay, probably i just do a quick calculation on how objective i am to donate charitably every month to the taxman on just GST, not considering other tax yet

water, electricity & utilities - 150

milk powder/diapers/food for 2 children - 200

/infant care/child care/after school care for 2 children - 350x2 - 700

transport for 2 children - 50x2 - 100

min cost of public transport for myself - 100

phone & internet - 50

food for myself - 100

insurance on myself in case i drop dead while training or taking IPPT or if i met with a freak accident while in camp - 300

the above after leaving out the last two adds up to 1700/month, shall remove 300 from here for companies too small to be taxed by GST assuming all merchants are honest enough not to 'factor' them in.

oh maybe i'm spent too much, i should not have a phone nor internet, walk my children to school, restrict the whole family to 2 meals a day etc..

oh, u did not budget for singapore pool and also clubbing fees

mrObjective SG

oh, u did not budget for singapore pool and also clubbing fees

already too charitable to the taxman to have enough for clubbing. singapore pools is not worth my second look, the chances of winning are too slim to waste throwing good money in.

mrObjective SG

very detail. fully agree.

better downgrade to save on the insurance.

yes indeed. lifeform can be so pathetic here in sg... putting our lives at stake for our family (this, i am not complaining), protecting it at our own expense from any mishap and end up getting punished for doing it (GST).

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