Hong Kong sets Minimum Wage - What one Singaporean thinks

last SG · 2010-09-11T00:40:44+00:00

Hi Parn, Doesn't matter .... I have been made aware by eagle (Read a few posts before yours) of this "workfare bonus wage supplement" scheme that the governm...

parn SG

TO GREAT Parn,

I'm raising the white flag.

I'm Saying "Pleased" and "I am Sorry" and let me off the whore hook..

Hmm...looking at what you have wrote to me in my quote, I still need to consider first.

parn SG

..So can anyone enlighten why Hong Kong is better in these respects than Singapore, besides Minimum wage Laws?...

Answer: probably due to the fact that Hkg is only next door to china??

Nobody said Hong Kong is better than Singapore, so are you must be trying to force your false hopes into "fact"?

Nice try by the way.

parn SG

Min wage =/= starting pay.

Min wage = least amount you can get.

Why parn said min wage = max wage is because through an employer point of view, as long as they give let say $1000 (min wage), they would not increase it. As long as they are not breaking the rules, they will continue giving out this $1000.

Right now, without any hard or fast rule where wage is solely up to the discretionary of the company, they do not have a guideline, thus they would give solely base on the ability. Till then, it would be up to the employee luck to see if he/ she can find a similar job with a higher pay or not, which would not have happened if there is a minimum wage. If you don't understand, I can explain in another way.

As for people talking. These company would know how to deal with it. Don't need to worry. As long as the company is able to keep its products low, who would bother on how they sack their retired staff or not. E.g. SIA. Have anyone boycott SIA because of their staff retrenchment exercise to cut cost?

Thanks for explaining in greater details to retarded trolls like Aceone10.

I won't even waste my time on imbeciles like Aceone10.

parn SG

It is more like if SG implemented minimum wages long ago, there will be less so call not up to the mark FT and less ppl like you down here talking c*ck. You just another think you know it all. Also we can have less of those so called MNC that invest here just to exploit the low wages. Talking about low wages, there are so many countries that give many time lower cost then SG, why still come here? Think before you talking c*ck again.

If Singapore do not have minimun wages scheme, you and your FATHERS and your uncles would've been paid alot lesser and at an unsubstainable salary rate.

Do you think their employers pays them such unsubstainable salaries in the past because they were smart, hardworking, capable and the employers were feeling generous?

Looking at the failed end product here, I believe they were saved by minimum wages scheme so that you are able to come here and talk cock. Obviously there is a lack of communication between you and your FATHERS and uncles or any other relatives in your family.

Oh...and don't forget people can only talk cock only if they have a cock. So I am unable to talk cock like you.

parn SG

A question back to you the wingless angel.

Singapore was successful without much foreigner since the early days and the minimum pay then was higher in term of value then comparing to now?

What comparing sources you base on? between 2009 and 2010?? Try stretch it bigger. And again in what capacity and which context you conclude that being lazy still can ride the success of SG?? Where have you been?? within the window of your own toad well?? Why not you quit any source of income and see if you can lazy around and ride on the sucess... When you had done tat then I am convince. If not, prefer you STFU, cos what I'm writing is something that happen you are merely joyriding around.

Regarding what you mentioned about local 1.8m workforce and the demand of 3M in the market. So where you get that figures?? From some part of your hair?? To answer you that, if there wasnt any restriction to child birth rate back then, if living expenses wasnt that high now, then we can have 5M work force and could be since 10 yrs ago. And yes I got the figure from some part of my hair.

You did not read my previous post? Cos you have nothing to say that's why you skipped that? You are just another selective poster. Posting for the purpose of posting.

"Singapore was successful without much foreigner since the early days and the minimum pay then was higher in term of value then comparing to now?"

Hahahaha...which era were you from? Are you sure Singapore was successful without much foreigner since the early days?

Go and correct your facts first before you come and flood us with your verbal vomit.

Shall we donate a toilet bowl to you if you are too poor to afford one.

parn SG

To Phantomnite,

So what you are also saying you agreed with Parn? Or you = Parn??

Anyway, when you start step into the real world and working for a real job. And when you start to learn that what is more important to a company's business then you start posting here and tell us your point of view.

Stop smelling someone else butt

Phantomite, please ignore this Aceone10.

He is so full of shit and nonsense stucked inside his brain that he forgot to tell you the time when he tried to sniff soneone's chair and was caught on CCTV camera.

It's on Youtube by the way.

kengkia SG

"Singapore was successful without much foreigner since the early days and the minimum pay then was higher in term of value then comparing to now?"

Hahahaha...which era were you from? Are you sure Singapore was successful without much foreigner since the early days?

Go and correct your facts first before you come and flood us with your verbal vomit.

Shall we donate a toilet bowl to you if you are too poor to afford one.

why so nice to even donate something to him? He deserves nothing from any of us.

parn SG

why so nice to even donate something to him? He deserves nothing from any of us.

Hello Phantomnite

kengkia SG

hello parnie...

oh btw, me not Phantomnite hor...

redDUST SG

How is lower staff turnover or higher staff turnover related to this Minimum wages thing?

Staff turnover rate isn't dependent on work laws or schemes such as Minimum wages, and if you believed that staff turnover rate is going to improve for whatever reasons you believed, kindly share your reasons and scenarios with relations to Minimum wages and staff turnover rate.

Like I've said you are not looking from an employer's perspective, how is staff turnover rate going to affect any employers?

It's true from your employee's perspective, you can be naive and imagined all the employees walking away from their job and the employers will need to beg these employees to stay. DREAM ON ok? Do you not realised that it is now an employers' market rather than an employees' market? Go ahead and quit your job, I don't think anyone will ever be missed because their job position will be replaced in a flash.

I am unable to agree with you with the information that I'm aware of. But you are still welcome to express your own opinions without feeding people with false impression and ideals.

Identity crisis? Are you complaining that you desired to know more about me?

you really got short memory. you are the one that said that "They can always fire you and re-employed someone else on minimum wages." . I am telling you that it doesn't work well from an employer's perspective because it is more costly to hire, train, etc.

no where did i imply that staff turnover is dependent on min wages. it is in your figment of imagination and in your course of argument, you got things all mixed up and start confusing things by putting words in my mouth.

it will be in your interest to argue to the point and succinctly. you can't even talk straight in this case. but of cos, cross-dresser like you are always in two minds, not sure if you should wear a dress or a pant.

great minds we have here....i am outta here.

Phantomnite SG

Hello Phantomnite

Eh. I not Keng Kia. I AM PHANTOMNITE LOL. My name so chio!

Anyway these people are really living in their own world. But its okay, its good to know there are such people out there. When I start my own company, I will employ them. Good workers I have there who pushes for min wage. =D

parn SG

great minds we have here....i am outta here.

That's when you're wrong when you think it's costly to hire and train new employees.

In fact, it cost nothing to hire and train new employees.

Who is going to train them? Their supervisors! And the company expects their supervisors to deal and absorb the training of new staffs into their own workloads.

In an employer's point of view, it is important to recycle the employees and ditch the trashes that aren't productive or problematic.

New employee = lower pay than their predecessor

Is that really ONLY the argumentive point that you have with regards to staff turnover rate affecting employers?

I thought wrongly, I thought you had better opinions to offer than to chew on petty things that you were unable to decipher on your own.

kengkia SG

Who is going to train them? Their supervisors! And the company expects their supervisors to deal and absorb the training of new staffs into their own workloads.

i can attest to this. it's true.

Except that in my workplace, it's not the supervisor nor the foreman/leader who is doing the training of new people. In fact the foreman/leader who is supposed to train the new people, conveniently tai chi this task to my lao jiao colleauges. Credit he claim, anything goes wrong he tai chi the blame to that colleauge.

very cunning of my immediate superior eh?

Aceone10 SG

In which era are you then? If you dont understand how things started back in 1970, you too STFU. Dont assume you know everything. And yes I'm full of shit and you the one who is eating shit everywhere.

Now who is living in their own world?? The only foreign worker then are all production worker, were you guys even born yet?

Base on your dumb comment on company turn-over already tells you are dumb zero. Know nothing but talk alot. Oh yea you cannot talk cock cos you dont have any but you always suckk cock down here. Cos you got no balls!! Remember dont use your teeth if you still dont know how.

Phantomnite, for guys like you starting a business?? My wait will not be long to see you listed in the new bankruptcy with your F attitude towards the worker, is either you dont get to employ any good staff or you got bitten up by them too.

A guy I knew in herit 10M from his death father and because of F attitude and think he know it all and the world only circle around him, loses everything in every investment and end his own life. He is not the only 1 and you guys only reading the approved media, what do you guys really know??

Aceone10 SG

Parn,

Did you talk to your father?? Your uncle??

If they had not tells you and let me spilt it out on behalf of them. You are really useless, and sucking too much cock until your teeth all messed up. Cos you swallow too much cum tat's why all your teeth are yellow.

You are a disgrace to the nation so is all your choir group.

Dont thank me for waking you up

parn SG

Now who is living in their own world?? The only foreign worker then are all production worker, were you guys even born yet?

So in your retared reality, did foreign companies set up EMPTY branches in Singapore in the past then employed retarded pricks like your FATHERS and uncles to populate their companies and work for them?

Since they did not bring over any foreigners to train and slap these retarded pricks around and educate them how to do their job well, these retarded pricks had to train other retarded pricks to become uber retarded pricks to have wayang parties daily in the companies to amuse their foreign bosses?

And you're the best end product of the mating of one prick-less with multiple retarded pricks?

What do you know anyway? Afterall, you are just a uber retarded prick who has admitted that YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!

By the way, what's so credible about the dumb guy with 10M? Are you saying that you want us to pity and have sympathy for YOU on that guy's behalf?

Don't even bother telling us about it, I have no interest or sympathy to spare for stupid guys. And of course I do not plan to show you any and you need to LEARN that this entire thing will only end when I'm happy that you are completely humiliated and crushed.

Who do you think I am?

parn SG

Parn,

Did you talk to your father?? Your uncle??

You are a disgrace to the nation so is all your choir group.

Dont thank me for waking you up

Hehehhehe...very entertaining!

This is exactly the kind of entertainment that I like, but too bad you missed me because none of it were true.

Are you angry and feeling bitter about me? Don't worry, there's more to come.

Aceone10 SG

hey hey... hahaha. Why are you afraid? Writing all so many things trying to hurt me but then end it with hopeful I dont reply?? In regards to all the retarded post of yours, nah, I dont have to explain cos you so retarded wont understand

My father set up a successful business back then and train your retarded father and bring him to GL and that's where he met your mom and got you. Even not sure if you are biological or not. lol

Why are you so eagle to clarify it is not true?? Chi Di Wu Ying San Bai Liang!! Lol You know what it mean? Your retarded mine will be too tough to figure that out. Any way I dont care. lol.

Angry about you?? Nah... without you I felt bored. let it comes let it comes oh please dont stop???!!! Just for your info, you didnt make me horny... lol

Aceone10 SG

Oh one very important question you asked and I forgot to answer. Sorry about it. About your question who I think you are? hmmm.... thanks for the invitation, ladies and gentlemen, you are looking at No.69 in GL 12.. Not very ang pai oh sorry is totally uncared by, now giving discount but then teeth yellow yellow.. size 32a, 35 & 40. face of a pig and voice of a cow. But no matter what still a whore member of GL... lol.. si pai stupid

parn SG

My father set up a successful business back then and train your retarded father and bring him to GL and that's where he met your mom and got you. Even not sure if you are biological or not. lol

Why are you so eagle to clarify it is not true?? Chi Di Wu Ying San Bai Liang!! Lol You know what it mean? Your retarded mine will be too tough to figure that out. Any way I dont care. lol.

Angry about you?? Nah... without you I felt bored. let it comes let it comes oh please dont stop???!!! Just for your info, you didnt make me horny... lol

Which one of your fathers had a successful business? Does your Mum know?

So the business isn't successful anymore? I can understand why the business failed, probably because you are a failed product to your family and brought failures to your family.

LOL...no wonder you can only brag this much about your past.

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