Shanmugam: Foreigners generate jobs for Singaporeans

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December 11, 2009 by admin
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angel7030 SG

At this of point of time, what he said is true, if all foreigners is to return back to their hometown, we are history.

I'm back SG

now i understand why so many pollution

xtreyier SG

There's a difference between FOREIGN TALENT AND FOREIGN WORKERS.

1. Every foriegn talent won over by us means more jobs for our citizens. Talents mean people who can solve a company's problems, increase productivity and profits. Otherwise they wont be called talents.

With increased profits and capabilities, companies will be able to expand, thereby creating jobs for fellow citizens, mostly desirous of the mid management levels and work their way up, learning from such talents and taking over the jobs, if not this generation, would be the next.

I would personally vote to have more talents, even hundreds of thousand of them, and give them citizenship if they pay allegiance to our flag, vow our pledge with honesty and improve our lives.

Better the foreign talent works together with us within our shores, than to work AGAINST US, from other shores.

2. Foreign workers, such as E and S pass holders are another issue. It would be understandable for citizens, who are educated to shun certain jobs in the employment market, and rightfully be held by such foreign workers. We do need road sweepers and construction workers for our massive infrastructure project.

However, there must be a qouta in place, otherwise it may end up foreign workers by the millions flood our shores and take over jobs which could be held by citizens, as they would be willing to settle for lower pay.

Employers would love such people, but it is not fair to citizens, espacially the older generation who had contributed weallth and children to our society. There is a social price to be paid by employers for the stability that our country offers and that is to hire our workers by increasing their salaries if there is not enough supply to meet employment demand.

Their economic theory of fighting competition by hiring cheap workers is flawed. It is the product that must be cheap and good that a company lasts. Labour costs is but only one factor, no doubt of a higher value, in the final product output cost. A lack of foresight, strategies,etc ensures one to be fully dependent solely on cheap labour to compete.

Many spit on china made products, reasons fully known. Consumers only end up paying more for replacements. More competitors mean more corners will be cut to make money, and ultimately destroys the market for similar product or service and waste crucial resources such as labour, space, and materials.

Singapore is only a small island and there is NO way we can offer more space than the current avaliability without causing more social problems with the invasion of low value add foreign workers introduced by irresponsible employers.

Cars were a problem in the past as more were buying cars, resulting in gridlocks at traffic points. ERP were then introduced to ease traffic flow. With human, what next, ERP gantries to ease HUMAN flow?

MPs and govt understood this, but it is some cheapo EMPLOYERS who are socially irresponsible, hiding behind govts, crying to them that citizens shun their jobs, and at the same time blaming and pushing the govt for increasing the foreign worker qoutas, when they are out of their biz suits.

Thus the grouse and problem lies with issue (2). This is the clear and present danger posed by irresponsible employers. Whomever can solve this issue with credible and pragmatic solutions gets my vote, guaranteed, regardless if ruling party or opposition.

Just my contribution, for consideration, if anyone so wishes.

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Xtreyier,

thanks for contributing.

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Save skilled jobs for locals

Mr Low Thia Khiang (left) urged the Government to state clearly that it will guard the interests of Singaporean workers first. -- ST FILE PHOTO

OPPOSITION leader Low Thia Khiang (Hougang) wants the Government to reserve for Singaporeans some skilled jobs, such as those of safety managers, crane operators and tractor drivers.

He also urged the Government to state clearly that it will guard the interests of Singaporean workers first.

Mr Low was one of five MPs who spoke on Singapore's reliance on foreign labour during Monday's debate on the President's Address.

He said in Mandarin: 'Singaporeans are asking what is the point of being Singaporean.'

Those who have contributed to nation-building resent the fact that as they grow older, they are seen as less tough and more choosy about jobs than foreigners. The Government also gives the impression that it favours foreign talent, he added.

Mr Yeo Guat Kwang (Aljunied GRC) urged bosses in the service sector to hire more Singaporeans, especially retrenched workers who have been retrained for such jobs.

Labour MP Halimah Yacob (Jurong GRC) was typically wary of the foreign worker quota, asking that it be reviewed. 'There are so many foreign workers even in the services sector that Singaporeans are beginning to feel squeezed out.'

She warned that if foreign workers crowded out Singaporeans in a sector, Singaporeans may lose the skills to work in that sector.

Nominated MP Gautam Banerjee, however, urged MPs and bosses to resist the 'nationalistic mindset' of saving jobs for Singaporeans or laying off foreigners first, regardless of merit. 'Getting rid of foreign talent may be an immediate way to improve your bottom line. But it will be disastrous in the long run, especially if it is done indiscriminately,' he warned.

Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_381762.html

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December 11, 2009 by admin
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angel7030 SG

Try to ask that low to employ all Singaporeans in his consituency, from cleaners to town council managers, make it a no foreigner town, then we can sit down and talk it over.

xtreyier SG

I applaud the MPs who spoke up, ruling party or opposition. BUT remember this NMP Banerjee guy. He oughta have his ass kicked if he cant differentiate between a foreign talent, foreign worker, citizenship, ECONOMICS & SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITES/OBLIGATIONS, as well as its balance!..

deepak.c SG

Yes!

Let's bring in more foreigners so that Singaporeans will achieve 0% unemployment. The more foreign talents, the better for Singaporeans.

deepak.c SG

Foreigners give Singaporeans jobs.

GST is to help the poor.

angel7030 SG

Foreigners also have to pay Gst, and they get no rebate, so they are helping us in taxation too, so what is wrong with that, Singaporeans are not poor, just that some earn less than other and call themselves poor, please lah, people here really dun understand the perfect condition of poor, we are living in heaven, dun alway make a hell out of it ya

angel7030 SG

Yes!

Let's bring in more foreigners so that Singaporeans will achieve 0% unemployment. The more foreign talents, the better for Singaporeans.

By right, like the Roman did, we should all be bosses or top peoples leading a comfortable life while leaving the menial works to foreigners, but because there is still alot of us, being lazy and ignorance about the changes, dun wan to upgrade and take risk, ending up working and struggling with foreigners here, so at times, you have to blame yourself, you should be controlling foreigners with your whips instead of being whipped by them.

xtreyier SG

There can be denial of doubts the benefits of foreign talents and foreign workers can bring. It is the balance that is the issue. But have we reach a tipping point whereby our small island state CANNOT possibly absorb more of these people, more so the low value add foreign workers?

Rather than rant and rave here, eveyone can help. Solutions are needed. My perception is to increase the salary ceiling for supervisory to mid-management to help majority of our educated citizens, for jobs that can be and should be filled by citizens, leaving the lowest salary possible to the foreigners for unskilled jobs, to work in stacked up factories, reducing land space. These people are dime a dozen in asia. Let them fight for jobs here.

With increase salaries, our citizens will be able to support SMEs and service entreprenuers set up by the lower educated, circulating money within our economy. I would admit there may be better ways by others that I may not know of yet. Thus a need to find solutions.

Please appeal to your MPs NOW, to strike the balance before it is too late.

angel7030 SG

how can a group of skilled citizens being fed by govt and family takes on a global economy comparing to a group of skill foreigners who had been thru padi field and rubbish life and will fight for every bit of a bread to share for??

Like it or not, I would said, "Singaporeans are overly pampered, and they dun move their butts but expect something to move inorder to change their condition" Personally, when i employ a skill singaporeans, he dun works long, he will job hop here and there, trying to get the best working condition and the fastest way of going up the corporate ladder, most got nothing to loose, because the family dun really need his income, unlike a foreigner, he got a reason to prove his coming here, he has a duty to perform, and he knows he cannot fail, because there is no safety net behind him, no one is helping him, only he can helps himself, he will takes on whatever pays and works given to him.

Gattlinggun80 SG

factories moving all out of spore…...........

Gattlinggun80 SG

sad

xtreyier SG

Your points may be valid, but there is a distinct difference between the foreigner and US, as much as the generalization of my fellow citizens you portrayed.

I grew up with them, schooled with them, shared a warm cup of coffee in rainy jungles of foreign lands with them in defence training of our homeland, chase beers over EPL with them, and I know them well.

What you think of the foreign guy capable of, so too my fellow citizens if not better, infact 95% of them which are currently employed.

Thus my fellow citizens should be given a chance at employment over the foreigner, who is only a mercenary, here only because of opportunity, at a salary considered heavenly back in his failed state.

If there is only 1 piece of bread left, I will share it with my fellow citizen, not the foreigner, for I owe it to him. It was his forefathers who created Singapore what it is today, the schools, the infrastructures, the social welfare, etc. Without such, I would not have the opportunities i have today. My debt is to my fellow members of our society.

Without our roots and a place we call home where our forefathers lived, broke their backs for us, and where we can feel secure for our next generations to come, we would only be mercenaries. This is the bond we citizens share, and our common future we seek together. Break this bond and trouble will loom.

Employers best know this fact. Either we rise together as one or in the end, if our dependence on foreign labour is heavy at the expense of our fellow citizens, we will ultimately sink as one.

Better the labour intensive companies close down, or shift elsewhere and leave room for more higher value add capbable companies come and offer better opportunities for all.

I'm back SG

all you pub capital is sponsored by your family not you yourself

so you can talk shit

i don't think you have the capital to open a pub at such young age

your family sponsored you a bmw - that's your life

you are born with a silver spoon - pls don't anyhow generalise others

Gattlinggun80 SG

if foreigners come setup company then goto A
if foreigners come help in hard to accomplish task then goto A
if forigners come do jobs locals want in that same job with same education status n skills then goto B

A
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OK .ALL WILL SURVIVE AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER

B
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NOT OK. EITHER U OR ME DIE AND WONT LIVE LONG.CIVIL WARS UNREST AND PROTEST ON JOBS AND SALARY SEEN IN ALL COUNTRIES!