Dr Alan Ooi's Suicide Letter

last SG · 2009-03-12T16:16:26+00:00

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skythewood SG

He signed the bond at 18 years old. I think his parents have the right to ask why the term of exit or the exit clause was not explained to him - at 18 yrs old.

I said this because when you read Mindef's reply - it reeked of double-speaks, there was no exit clause for him.

Put it this way, if his superior really thought he sucked, Dr Ooi really must have done the right think by asking for the exit. He did it the correct and gentlemently way.

Also, a doctor has gone thru' six years of training. No matter how sucked he was, how to justify the 14 to 16 years of administrative workload?

His family so rich, still sign bond, that is his FAMILY's issue. deprive someone else of the chance to have the scholarship, and at the same time tie him down for the contract. Issues that his parents should have condulted him about.

18 sounds like a decent age to decide. how old should he be than? 21?

4sg SG

18 sounds like a decent age to decide. how old should he be than? 21?

Yes, his family is wealthy. Age is also not the factor here.

But he or his family would not have or let him signed the bond if they knew that there is no exit clause in the bond. That was the one of the points his family wrote to the press.

We have to wait for Mindef reply to see if this is true.

skythewood SG

Yup, the family can say what they want. Heck, they can even smuggle the guy to australia, and could theoretically hide him there forever.

Is it a big surprise that there is no exit clause? Do people sign bond with the intention of breaking it? If really that is the intention, than ask about it loh.

If the scholar is a poor kid, not a rich kid, the story will be very different.

Performance not good, the poor kid has to improve himself and solve the problem. He won't even think about breaking the bond because he can't afford to pay back the money AND he is grateful for the chance to pursue his studies with the aid of the scholarship. And run away to Australia is not an option, as he have to live up to the expectations of his parents and give them a good life.

Think should stop giving scholarship to rich kids. they won't appreciate the scholarship, and will deprive of someone who does.

angel7030 SG

dun tell me this is like another lemon kind of bonds structure. And even lemon bonds only repaid those who are old and uneducated, deemed as mis selling.

Of course at 18yo, u need your parents consent, same goes to me and you during our application for teritiary studies..the law stipulated that you (including yr parents or guardians) you signed with yr eyes opened and not closed.

Working life or even army life should be the same, once you get a suck up boss, that is it, you have to take it, if you cannot beat him/her, join him/her better. But our friend choose to end his life, that is really no excuses to do that...dun tell me he thot life is alway a silver plate presented in front of him, it is so lame to take his own life just like this, even if he can get transferred out, i wonder how on earth is he able to take his other aspect of life.

And frankly, i hope i dun get a bf like this.

skythewood SG

dun tell me this is like another lemon kind of bonds structure. And even lemon bonds only repaid those who are old and uneducated, deemed as mis selling.

And frankly, i hope i dun get a bf like this.

you still single meh?

angel7030 SG

you still single meh?

Ya, Why?? u want to be my bf ar??? u no scare my nagging and teasing ar?? Me go work liao. bye bye

youyayu SG

reading at all the reply make me laugh

skythewood SG

Ya, Why?? u want to be my bf ar??? u no scare my nagging and teasing ar?? Me go work liao. bye bye

haha, yup, your nagging and teasing can scare guys away. have fun at work!

will4 SG

We have to wait for Mindef reply to see if this is true.

I curious cause when late Dr Ooi decided to go to Australia n stayed there for five months, how come nobody from his family flew to Australia to persuade him to come

back?

4sg SG

We don't know, nobody here knows. To say I know would be a smack of arrogance.

But maybe he hide his problem from his family...maybe....

will4 SG

We don't know, nobody here knows. To say I know would be a smack of arrogance.

But maybe he hide his problem from his family...maybe....

I really felt sorry for the late Dr Ooi esp his whole family is rich enough to pay off his bond. However, according to the statement that he told his superiors that he is not happy with the work, did he mention that he want to break off his bond and go to other countries? The possibilty is there.

4sg SG

I follow his case, he did mentioned to his superior about his unhappiness. What and how it was handled and the outcomes were puzzles.

I am very passionate about this case because guys like me who have gone thru' the army knows that such organisation can be a breeding ground for intensive bullying.

In my previous work with psychologist and psychiatrist, I come to realise that mental torture can be a terrible thing - even worse than physical torture to some groups of people.

When I read his suicide letter, I can't help feeling for him. Word by word, sentence by sentence, the letter smacks of a trapped animal - an animal in the snare of a hunter's trap, no way out.

lionnoisy SG

many think Dr Ooi was pressed by the EXTRA 3 years bond on the 6 months

UK Aviation Medicine course.

THIS IS WRONG!!

The 3 years bonds are to be served concurrently!!

Why did Ooi family not come out to clarify it?

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Dunt treat sponsored --scholoarship to get your placement ,

get the degree,break the bond,

pay the ''liquidiated damages'' and walk away!!

Try on your own if u can get the place in local and foreign U ,if u are

not sponsored by Singaopore gavaman agencies?

For foreign U,u are the winner from SG,not from the world.

SG gavaman sponsorship make sure u can get into foreign

prime U!!Dunt burn the bridge after u cross the river!!

U (and your parents )have the'' moral obligation '' to make sure

u serve the full period of the bond whole heartly!!

The barren rock country dunt need your broken bond reimbursement or

legally called ''liquidiated damages''.Temasek and GIC get some

US$250 billions net assets!!

THE COUNTRY NEED U SERVE THE FULL PERIOD OF THE BOND

WHOLE HEARTLY,not your peanut reimbursement.

U just reimburse gavaman for the costs spent on u,

not compensation.I have proposed here the broken bond penalty

shall be 3 times of the costs,not just reimbursement!!

Let say gavaman spent S$1 million on the scholar .

Then 3 million shall be paid if the bond broken!!

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08 Apr 09 -
MINDEF's Forum Letter on Issues Concerning CPT (Dr) Allan Ooi

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/news_and_events/nr/2009/apr/08apr09_nr.html

''The six-month Aviation Medicine course that CPT (Dr) Ooi attended in the United Kingdom (UK) from Jan to Jul 2008 had a three-year bond, which was to be served concurrently with his 12-year Local Study Award (Medicine) bond. This was explained to CPT (Dr) Ooi when he and his two sureties(lion note--his parents?) signed the deed for the course on 19 Dec 2007 before he left for the UK.....''

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Why do u guys just blame the bond on his death?

Are u sure the bond is the sole source of his pains?

Has he influenced by drugs etc when he jumped from the bridge,

if oz police version was the facts?

How can u rule out the problems in relationships,health

in his death?

There are three other doctors in his family--parents and brother.

Did they notice any things go wrong?

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He has every things many guys dream of

------good family background,both parents are docs,

----handsome face (he won some competitions and appeared in high society magazine)

----------A doc!!

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MINDEF

''will continue to be as open and helpful as possible to them. MINDEF will also provide the facts of the case to the public while respecting the privacy of the family''.

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lionnoisy SG

pl read this news carefully,

I agree that SIN MING pinned point on the relationship,but not the pains

of his job.Guys,isnt the relationship is not to be overlooked?

This is my poor translation from the letter in SIN MING----

Hoe do u feel?What are the damages and mistakes Dr Ooi talking about?

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March 13, 2009 by admin
Filed under Daily Musings

38 Comments

By Eugene Yeo

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lionnoisy SG

http://www.mediacorpsingapore.com/pu...2001041704.htm

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?p=36421625

''anyway CPT Dr Allan Ooi came in 3rd in ManHunt.....hes quite a hunk''

http://www.mediacorpsingapore.com/purplelips/life/articles/2001041704.htm

''The third crown for Mr Continents 2001 went to medical undergraduate Allan Ooi.''

soul_rage SG

many think Dr Ooi was pressed by the EXTRA 3 years bond on the 6 months

UK Aviation Medicine course.

THIS IS WRONG!!

The 3 years bonds are to be served concurrently!!

Why did Ooi family not come out to clarify it?

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@2

Dunt treat sponsored --scholoarship to get your placement ,

get the degree,break the bond,

pay the ''liquidiated damages'' and walk away!!

Try on your own if u can get the place in local and foreign U ,if u are

not sponsored by Singaopore gavaman agencies?

For foreign U,u are the winner from SG,not from the world.

SG gavaman sponsorship make sure u can get into foreign

prime U!!Dunt burn the bridge after u cross the river!!

U (and your parents )have the'' moral obligation '' to make sure

u serve the full period of the bond whole heartly!!

The barren rock country dunt need your broken bond reimbursement or

legally called ''liquidiated damages''.Temasek and GIC get some

US$250 billions net assets!!

THE COUNTRY NEED U SERVE THE FULL PERIOD OF THE BOND

WHOLE HEARTLY,not your peanut reimbursement.

U just reimburse gavaman for the costs spent on u,

not compensation.I have proposed here the broken bond penalty

shall be 3 times of the costs,not just reimbursement!!

Let say gavaman spent S$1 million on the scholar .

Then 3 million shall be paid if the bond broken!!

Incorrect English

"3 years bond" should be "3 year bond"

The 3 year bond is to be served concurrently with his current bond

Other parts of the English above cannot comprehend.

Breaking a military bond requires a person to pay 2.5x of the original bond amt + admin charges. The govt is much smarter than you think, stupid kitten

On another note, there is no $1million bond from my knowledge. Most of our bonds range from below 100k to about 300k or so.

Dr Ooi's bond should be in the 200k range, given his medical course + the monthly salary that he draws as a full time officer while studying.

soul_rage SG

Seriously, I question the issue about rich enough to pay off his bond.

2.5x the original bond amount would make his family pay off a value of up to $400+k. From what I know, you can only pro-rate your bond on the last year, anything before that, you must pay the bond penalty. Half a million is quite a crazy amount, unless you are a super-duper rich family.

Even if his family wishes to pay for him, as an adult, I doubt he would want to accept that.

lionnoisy SG

Incorrect English

"3 years bond" should be "3 year bond"

The 3 year bond is to be served concurrently with his current bond

Other parts of the English above cannot comprehend.

Breaking a military bond requires a person to pay 2.5x of the original bond amt + admin charges. The govt is much smarter than you think, stupid kitten

On another note, there is no $1million bond from my knowledge. Most of our bonds range from below 100k to about 300k or so.

Dr Ooi's bond should be in the 200k range, given his medical course + the monthly salary that he draws as a full time officer while studying.

tx for your corrctions.

There are few scholarships,degree to PhD , in Bio medicine or alike

worth one million!!

lionnoisy SG

Seriously, I question the issue about rich enough to pay off his bond.

Even if his family wishes to pay for him, as an adult, I doubt he would want to accept that.

His parents are both doctors..

If they cant pay the penalty,i dunt know who can pay.

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There are few issues in this case---

1.Why did Cpt Ooi resign right after Aviation Medicine course?

If he found the job was not happy,why did he go for the course and knew that

should he break the bond,he had to pay for the course fee and penalty?

Did he tel his parents (i assume they are the 2 sureties below)

that he was not happy in his job?

If he did,then I dunt think his parents would agree he went for the course?

Pl also take note that--

''a three-year bond, which was to be served concurrently with his 12-year Local Study Award (Medicine) bond. This was explained to CPT (Dr) Ooi when he and his two sureties signed the deed for the course on 19 Dec 2007 before he left for the UK....''

''CPT (Dr) Ooi returned on 7 Jul 2008 from his course in the UK. Sixteen days later, on 23 Jul 2008, while serving at the Aeromedical Centre, he informed his superior that he was unhappy at work and was considering leaving the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF). According to MINDEF's records, CPT (Dr) Ooi wrote to Head of Manpower at Headquarters Medical Corps on 12 Aug 2008 (not "Jul 2008" as stated in the family's letter), expressing his wish to resign from the SAF. The Head of Manpower replied on 20 Aug 2008, informing him how he could obtain the application form for early release, and explaining the process involved. But CPT (Dr) Ooi did not apply for early relase.''

08 Apr 09 -
MINDEF's Forum Letter on Issues Concerning CPT (Dr) Allan Ooi

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2.After he went AWOL on 15.10.2008,has MINDEF put his name

in ICA black list?

3.What damages did he cause to other people ?Wat mistakes did he make?

Tangible or non--tangible?I dunt think it is a guy dumped by a gal this kind

of small thing.

Cmd SG

All we know is the person is already dead and they can say what they like to his family. He can't raise from the grave and defend himself and full stop period.

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