No worries. You don't have any respect now.
Be assured, it is no skin off my nose.
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Want to make a point? Politics, government, education,...
The name merely reflects the first of all things that can be
discussed.
The main thing on this forum is to make a
point.
Did you make your point or any points - when you have admittedly
made none that was clear ?
The most essential point from your reply on Pg 2 - 07 Jul
'09 - 8.30AM:
yes,
it's my mistake for not
stating properly and clearly
...........
Clearly evading
You told me avid followers of STI would not be able to
understand.
Yet you tell me in the following post that not to expect what I
have had experienced in CNA Market Talk forum, a forum for avid
followers of STI. This shows you are telling me you realised avid
followers of STI would be able to understand.
Try again, incoherent person.
You seem desparate to score with your misleading
position.
My reply on Pg 3 - 07 Jul '09 12.23PM - which you insist on
taking out of context was:-
Do you think that anyone who is an avid follower of the
Stock Indices would have grasp the nuances in the statement made -
let alone those who are unfamiliar ?
Firstly, it was not a statement but a question to you.
Secondly, it referred to your statement made in this Speaker's
Corner and to "anyone who is an avid follower
of the Stock Indices" whom you are addressing in this Speaker's
Corner.
Is it not obvious that you should not expect the same level
of understanding as those whom you are discussing Stock
Indices in a specific CNA Market Talk Forum - which you had boasted
?
Incoherent ?
It looks like you have floated incoherent ideas
in the wrong and disconnected forum, when my first
response to the TS was consistently about "politics" from Pg 1.
Yes, glad that you realised fially that it included stocks.
So there is nothing wrong with sharing my views on the stock
markets. DUH
Yes, the item "stock" was mentioned in passing by TS in the
context of a larger political statement about the state of the
economy.
Was he discussing in depth about the economy per
se - or even about the stocks performance ?
My follow up reply is to clear any confusion you had. I have
admitted for not being clear, because I am indeed talking to people
who are not followers of STI. And it is indeed spoonfeeding because
even you did not dare to challenge and check out CNA Market Talk
forum on whether they will understand what was posted, which I can
tell you, they will.
The TS had started this thread as a general idea floated to get
reaction from any party interested to follow on.
While your approach is with tracking stock indices
that was posted in some vague and misleading manner which opened
itself to a different interpretation - and clearly you realised it
was your own mistake as seen from your own
admission - mine was from a political angle.
Even the reply from the seemingly avid stock follower
angel7030 in her post on Pg 3 - 07 Jul '09 - 11.56AM had
also taken your number 2011 on its face value in her comment :-
by 2011, gosh! the IR is
booming and credit will be free like hell, interest rate would had
raise, my gosh, you need to shift it now. What SPH! for god sake,
printing is not going to be the bull on the run anymore. ST
engg,..wow, i better go for Keppel lor
From my further questions to seek her clarification and without
any leads given - she developed this further in her
response on Pg 4 - 07 Jul '09 1:12PM which confirmed that even
an avid stock follower had also not connected with your incoherent
words of a subject that you placed in the wrong forum.
You could have been more successful if you had fished for some
reaction to your incoherent ideas at the
marketplace in this SgForums.
You will probably get more appropriate reactions from the
multitude of experts in the different markets found there.
Furthermore, haven't I take steps to attempt to clear up your
confusion on my phrasing? Realised only you didn't understand? Do I
need to explain to you each and every single word, and how logical
it is to avid followers of STI?
No one else seems to be connected with your idea - even
noahnoah exchange with you on Pg 2 and Pg 3 clearly
showed the confusion caused further in
your clarification floated:-
2011?
Where u got the news from?
No news. Is just my
expectations from observing charts coupled with what I think of the
economy...
It was doubtful that your clarification was clear enough, as
it got the next reply from noahnoah on the same
Pg 3 - 07 Jul '09 - 12.09PM:
STI stocks come down in late 2010 to
2011?
my friend holding a senior position in ST
he own few lots of shares too
he never tell me will come down in so call later
2010
Did you correct him in his mistaken use of the 2011
stock indices as a period in time ?
No, you even responded on the same Pg 3 - 07 Jul '09 12.18PM
it's just a study of market
sentiments, not company fundamentals mah
Of course, to lower my risks,
I put most of my money in companies with fundamentals... so in case
it fails, I can still keep till STI reaches >3000 again....
still got long way to 3000 leh ;)
What were you thinking ?
Trying to be more incoherent or being hypocritical ?
You were logical enough to deduce that 2050 isn't the year I was
referring to because 2011 was already stated as longer term, yet
how come you weren't logical enough to deduce too that it refers to
the value of STI when it is on the downtrend at 2280? Isn't that
waiting to be spoonfed? Thinking and deducing logics halfway?
Must everything be so clear in black and white like a contract
you are going to sign for you to fully comprehend? Is this
seriously something that you cannot deduce and comprehend by
yourself?
Are you being consistent here, or trying
to best someone to become more hypocritically incoherent
than one whom you have accused to be so ?
Did I deduce that 2050 isn't the year that you were referring to
?
How did you read my question in my reply on Pg 2 - 07 Jul '09 -
4:58AM - which was printed as follows:-
Stock market bottom out in March 2011...yet the current
upwave will last till next year March ?
Does the slide begin from March 2010 ?
'Short term wise' - when the prediction is that 'there might
be a down wave till 2050' ?
The period - from 2009 till 2050 - is
surely quite a short
term by any brilliant measure.
Are you now moving away from using the numbers 2011 and
2050 as Stock Indices as insisted in your replies ?
Have you now moved to the common positions taken by
noahnoah, angel7030 and myself in seeing your numbers 2011
and 2050 as a reference to the calendar year, and not as stock
indices that you wished ?
I have never believed in stating things too clearly and fully
when educating/sharing, because I strongly believe in an inquiry
approach. I still refuse to believe that your brain capacity was
insufficient to process what was said properly.
Is that anyone's fault for your preferred juvenile position
taken ?
What I am taking issue is your immediate linking with
what I posted of my own views to what the XXXXing minister said
about what TH has done (explaining away a mistake without admitting
it) before confirmation of what was said. And your attitude of
liking to link things to PAP in a totally unrelated
manner.
No one criticised your position taken in approaching
the thread via the stock indices.
Why should you take issue with my preferred poistion from a
political angle ?
My remarks had originated from the unclear contents that you
have admitted to, and which was clearly a disconnect to the
thread - as was also the same manner in viewing by both
noahnoah and angel7030 (who has shown herself to
be an avid stock chaser).
Is your standard sufficient for anyone to adopt, when clearly
you are below your own ambitious par ?
Yes, I'm looking for an apology for even linking me with that
unrelated statement from our minister.
If you were just saying that I'm confusing, or my analysis were
wrong, I have zero issues, because I will agree with that. There is
no 100% on this.
Nobody said that you were confused, or your analysis
was wrong.
It was the contents that you have presented that clearly showed
the art of obfuscating - similar to what the PAP Ministers
had shown themselves to be more capabable artists than
you possibly can imitate.
Can you measure anywhere near them, when you clearly admit your
own error about the confusion that your statement had caused ?
You are surely a juvenile to expect any apology from one whom
you see as a hypocrite - is there any value in your
expectations ?
Do you have any values ?
