News blackout on David Hartanto again?

last SG · 2009-05-14T20:21:41+00:00

okay.. i don't get it...people are making a martyr out of a guy who allegedly snapped, threatened his professor with violence, actually committed the violenc...

Stevenson101 SG

the family was there when his body was cremated..

Yes , but the point is whether they gave the permission or had the choice to cremate it.

People are making the argument that the hurried cremation implies a coverup, but if the parents were the ones that gave the permission it pretty much voids the idea of a coverup.

elindra SG

I think you cannot cremate without family approval

iii) Documents required for verification before the cremation:
           • Death Certificate (original)
           • Permit to Cremate (original)
           • Identification papers of next-of-kin and applicant e.g. NRIC, Passport etc
           • Letter of authorization (if applicant is not a next-of-kiii)

http://www.nea.gov.sg/passesaway/burial.htm#cre

So that brings us to the question if they think it's suspicious...why agree to the cremation???

the Bear SG

Yes , but the point is whether they gave the permission or had the choice to cremate it.

People are making the argument that the hurried cremation implies a coverup, but if the parents were the ones that gave the permission it pretty much voids the idea of a coverup.

you think if they didn't give permission, and the body is there, they'd not protest there and then?

i have a feeling they got convinced by either ambulance chasers, or the tinfoil hat wearers out there...

Meat Pao SG

I think it is a case of an over-reaction.

To a certain extent, I can understand and sympathize with the family for overreacting, but not with the others such as the conspiracy theorists and internet provocateurs. What a shameless people.

Rock^Star SG

My indonesian fren has seen the family appear in a talk show in indo. Since my fren has links with singapore, she is able to ascertain that what the family said is consistent with what you read in the blogs.

Those who pass judgement that others are low lives, it would be good to do some personal reflection too.

Meat Pao SG

It is not wrong for the family of the bereaved to seek extra avenue of justice, up to their satisfaction.

Any family will likely be doing the same.

However, hangers-on, cheerleaders, nationalist-fanners, and conspiracy theorists, these are lowlifes, and I see there are several people here who fit this description.

If this simple logic cannot be comprehend, perhaps it is you who must do some personal reflection.

Rock^Star SG

hahaha well suit yourself though I think name calling is unnecessary, immature and unobjective.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

so as U pointed up, the autospy is done, right??

then why this post?

Actually the strongest proof in this case is already gone.

David’s body should have never been cremated in the first place.

David’s body forensic would yield a treasure of proofs that might help the family in their legal battle.

The hurried of David cremation itself is a proof that somebody is trying to hide something imo.

don't connect leh..

I mean another autopsy one that is conducted by the family chosen doctors that might shed some light that Singapore police didn't find or didn't want to find

dadeadman1337 SG

Its been so long, whatever evidence should be gone by now

Miracles&Prophecies SG

“They want to kill me!” Cried David in his last moments

They slashed his neck and threw his body from the 4th floor

(In Indonesian)

http://blog-presstalk.com/?p=175

Gary: He said to me at the lift lobby 90% of the exact words – ”Mr Tan,if you walk out of here tomorrow,you might get killed.You might meet with a mysterious accident,you might disappear and nobody will know what happened to you! Mr Tan, some things and people in this country you cannot offend! Some people are above all things! You better make sure you know this! Mr Tan,we can arrange for things to happen to you.You understand or not!”

ahtansh SG

There are too many Indo Chinese here in Singapore they are trying to create social unrest thru the death of David. U guys come here without serving National service but getting all the good Stuff! Thinking that u are rich buy up all our properties!

David just can't handle the pressure and He committed sucide - Parents, Indos just can't accept it! He sucks get a life!

angel7030 SG

and we took pity on them when the indo riot slaughter them

Miracles&Prophecies SG

David just can't handle the pressure and He committed sucide - Parents, Indos just can't accept it! He sucks get a life!

No there's something wrong with how Singapore is run.

I too studied in NTU, and I decided not to come back to resume my study after an incident that nearly took my life and my sanity. I was straved in NUH for three days and refused any phone call.

They go for as much as producing a false diagnosis on my mental health which I decided to fight by not taking prescribed medication and not seeing any psychiatric and went on to finish a 7 semester degree without any problem. After about 2-3 years studying locally NTU sent me a fake later which informed me that my doctor had allowed me to resume my study in NTU. Now what doctor was that? Perhaps some fantasy doctor from a fantasy land.

Stay away from Singapore!

Gary: He said to me at the lift lobby 90% of the exact words - ”Mr Tan,if you walk out of here tomorrow,you might get killed.You might meet with a mysterious accident,you might disappear and nobody will know what happened to you! Mr Tan, some things and people in this country you cannot offend! Some people are above all things! You better make sure you know this! Mr Tan,we can arrange for things to happen to you.You understand or not!”

skythewood SG

mental note: if NUH wants to kill you, you will definitely be dead. The fact that you are still alive is proof that you are not telling the whole story. unless you tell me you make a daring escape like MSK.

If anyone threatened gary to make him dissappear, and he is still around to post on blogs, and still NOTHING happened to him,. so likely that there is more to the story that he is not telling, unless you tell me he has survived countless assasinations so far.

AND the fact that you are not willing to get a new diagnosis on your mental health by another doctor is proof that you are like the family, sitting on a "treasure of evidence" to prove that you don't have mental problems, but would rather not do another test, but just make noise about it.

angel7030 SG

Ahem, cannot swim, dun blame swimming trunk too big lah.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

Singapore is run by JERKS and BASTARDS.

Gary: He said to me at the lift lobby 90% of the exact words - ”Mr Tan,if you walk out of here tomorrow,you might get killed.You might meet with a mysterious accident,you might disappear and nobody will know what happened to you! Mr Tan, some things and people in this country you cannot offend! Some people are above all things! You better make sure you know this! Mr Tan,we can arrange for things to happen to you.You understand or not!”

PoThePanda01 SG

For your information,i do drop by this forum.

And if it pleases your Elitist Highness to read the following..

http://pothepanda.xanga.com/700999200/singapore-leslie-nelson-police-comedy-continues/

Miracles&Prophecies SG

I'm not an elitist.

Hello PothePanda I will be reading your blog from time to time. It's a shame and a cowardice act that the ruling people would make use of the police to intimidate its own people.

Stay strong. You're welcome to PM me if you have any need of my help however I'm no Singaporean and not residing in Singapore.

Herzog_Zwei SG

uhh.. so.. hartanto supposedly threatened to make the professor disappear...

if that is what you cling on to, the rest fit don't they?

btw.. WHO DO YOU THINK "MURDERED" HARTANTO?

he was flung off by the illuminati who in his investigations implicated the professor? the supposed slash marks on his wrists were actually stigmata signs? the UFOs were in league with the illuminati who helped put a cloaking spell on the knights templar who were the hired help of the illuminati so that they can drag hartanto across the campus and then fling him off the building?

hmmm... good one

the Bear apparently forgot something:

Hartanto was resurrected 3 days after his death and the Illuminati tried to implement the New World Order which was represented by the mark of the beast '666'.

Great conspiracy theory...

Cutewolf89 SG

This topic becomes pointless by the minute. Have you guys heard about the term 'CONSPIRACY'. The guys who go on using conspiracies to make a point = CONSPIRACY THEORIST. Now, ladies and gentlemen, what is the point of a CONSPIRACY and a CONSPIRACY THEORIST?

Humans have always accepted thrills. By just the father of the David saying "he was murdered", all this funny funny stories come up. And people choose to believe these stories because it facinates. Let me ask you something. What does the government gain by covering up the story? Whatever that is being mentioned in here is very much baseless accusations.

Now I can understand the human nature of grieving. Five years ago, I had a friend that died of a car accident. His parents wanted to sue the driver because they claim "the driver wasn't alert". They claim that that was the cause of their son's death. But my brother was there to witness the accident. My friend actually dashed across the road. I'm sure his parents knew he dashed, but they choose to blame the driver. They lost the case in court. As much as I don't like to see how the parents turned out after the accident, I couldn't say anything because they had the WILL to go all out until court. Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is the power of WILL. It is these WILL that drives us to prove our point of what actually happened, thus fabricating stories.

Don't get me wrong. I'm a person driven by facts, and what can be proven. If it is indeed true that he was murdered, then God help his parents.

Now to Miracles&Prophecies, by just looking at your posts, I can tell that you are one really desperate person that just hates anything with the words Singapore, MM Lee and [basically anything Singapore] in it. I like how you take a REALLY BIASED approach to this case. I would love to see what you post next. You mentioned that "Singapore is run by JERKS and BASTARDS". In a case proper, you would have lost everything if you don't chose to see it to a point of neutrality. And before that you mentioned "My theory is david didn’t commit suicide he was murdered. apparently by coward(s)". Now, I would like to see some theory to that, because as it seems, it's just your f***ing point of view.

To help you with that. A theory can start from an allegation or your point of view. But if there's no evidence to support whatsoever, then the allegation will remain an allegation. It will never make it as something that can be accepted.

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