North Korea: a rebellious angsty teenager

last SG · 2009-05-28T14:08:43+00:00

Do you know their longest range missle can reach Bali? Maybe it doesn't sound that bad, but if you think of it, that means it can reach Singapore, and have f...

jojobeach SG

don't speak like you know the taiwanese, only the old taiwanese who lived through the japanese occupation would adores the japanese culture, the younger onese adores hollywood, and recently the korean opera...

Why you care whether my ancestors would be turning from the graves?

Leally ? Maybe I watched too much Taiwanese variety show yes ?

jojobeach SG

Hi good morning Jojo - u r right up to a point in time but now time has changed & will remain changed.

Good morning Unker Ong.

I hope you are right. Let's hope there be no more weakness for others to exploit.

sgdiehard SG

Leally ? Maybe I watched too much Taiwanese variety show yes ?

you watch Taiwanese variety shows, and if you watch the Korea variety shows, then you will know from where they get the ideas.

but if the koreans got the ideas from the Japs, I cannot tell, I know it happened once.

sgdiehard SG

Yah well.. not that they never tried to rectify their wrongs.

Indians are given tax free lands, unfortunately.. instead of enriching their own people.. they prefer to enrich their individual pockets. Sad case.. but that's another discussion altogether.

Americans are not "unfillial" if that's what you're driving at.

Just that the social structure ensures independence from family support instead of having to rely on each other like what Asians like to do.

I don't know much how the american tried to "rectify", after reducing the population of 23 millions to 2 millions. that is another discussion.

on family ties, I look at it from another angle. Asians families look at supporting each others, even if you were married. American families believe that when you are married, you are independent and I don't have to support you anymore. They still respect their parents as parents...nothing to do with being "unfillial".

Fryderyk HPH SG

you watch Taiwanese variety shows, and if you watch the Korea variety shows, then you will know from where they get the ideas.

but if the koreans got the ideas from the Japs, I cannot tell, I know it happened once.

The Koreans were the first to come out wif dramas based on historical and family values.

Some examples:

The Great King Sejong(Historical drama by KBS World)

Dae Jang Geum(Historical drama by MBC)

Basically if you watch more shows on KBS World, you can see the family based ideas were original.

jojobeach SG

I don't know much how the american tried to "rectify", after reducing the population of 23 millions to 2 millions. that is another discussion.

Actually that is quite untrue lah.

American families do still support each other whenever the needs arise.

I still see grandparents taking care of their grandchildren. But it's always at their own free will if they are not already geographically separated.

Young still takes care of the old.. but the old prefer to be independent at old age instead of relying on their young.

Fryderyk HPH SG

Actually that is quite untrue lah.

American families do still support each other whenever the needs arise.

I still see grandparents taking care of their grandchildren. But it's always at their own free will if they are not already geographically separated.

Young still takes care of the old.. but the old prefer to be independent at old age instead of relying on their young.

This is stereotyping... But...

It is a known fact that in America the generalised way is individualism...

Known fact in many Asian cultures that there is collectivism.

jojobeach SG

This is stereotyping... But...

It is a known fact that in America the generalised way is individualism...

Known fact in many Asian cultures that there is collectivism.

Yeah well.. we're not here to debate which is the better. Each system has it's own merits.

Personally... I would rather not have to rely on my families.

Stevenson101 SG

Yah..

It is the blatant disregard for the value of human life and rights that had given the west a foot hold in our region.. is it not ?

No...i would think it's the fancy weapons they had.

jojobeach SG

No...i would think it's the fancy weapons they had.

Now they wouldn't have the reason to use it against us .. if we had not given them the right reason to , no ?

Arapahoe SG

At last it looks like someone has decided to keep up with the joneses & comes out with excerpts for others to read of what another side is saying, thinking & happening.

However sometimes I wonder if everyone will read thru completely when it's too voluminous. The pros & cons of some political propositions are so diverse & complex that one debate ad infinitum & you are no wiser (even if there is an ending).

Do you think he read all that he CUT and PASTE?

Stevenson101 SG

Now they wouldn't have the reason to use it against us .. if we had not given them the right reason to , no ?

You do realise then we have to do what they want so they don't have the right reasons to use it against us, even if it conflicts with our own interests ?

I have no love for DRPK nor for China's human right abuses.But i certainly have issues with the idea that the West has gained their foothold in our region on the basis of superior moral values.

richong 3216 SG

Do you think he read all that he CUT and PASTE?

Sorry I dont know - the best person to ask is him & I hope he'll reply when he sees this query.

jojobeach SG

You do realise then we have to do what they want so they don't have the right reasons to use it against us, even if it conflicts with our own interests ?

I have no love for DRPK nor for China's human right abuses.But i certainly have issues with the idea that the West has gained their foothold in our region on the basis of superior moral values.

What are their superior moral values ? Are those not what we equally seek ?

Why is it that we need foreign intervention to achieve them ? Will we be able to, without their intervention ?

haha879 SG

sexy.... lol

Stevenson101 SG

What are their superior moral values ? Are those not what we equally seek ?

Why is it that we need foreign intervention to achieve them ? Will we be able to, without their intervention ?

I never said they had superior moral values. They are just as capable of blatant disregard for human lives and rights.

Sure we seek the same thing, but i don't regard the West as having much of a headstart either.

Where do you derive the conclusion that we need foreign intervention to achieve superior morals? I haven't seen much improvement in moral values in countries they have intervened in.

You may think we need the white men to show us the brighter path, but i see their hands are just as bloody as the alternative.

Stevenson101 SG

sexy.... lol

MY EYES OMG MY EYES

Ah Chia SG

Will we be able to, without their intervention ?

What do you mean?

haha879 SG

What do you mean?

jojobeach SG

I never said they had superior moral values. They are just as capable of blatant disregard for human lives and rights.

Sure we seek the same thing, but i don't regard the West as having much of a headstart either.

Where do you derive the conclusion that we need foreign intervention to achieve superior morals? I haven't seen much improvement in moral values in countries they have intervened in.

You may think we need the white men to show us the brighter path, but i see their hands are just as bloody as the alternative.

Looking at our region.... I think we are still rather backwards.

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