singapore stance on sexuality: totally confused

last SG · 2009-05-19T01:17:31+00:00

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Fantagf SG

oh, fantagf, you're refering to him ah.

lol.

well, i'm not going to dig up his old posts, but it sounds like more like he is afraid that gays might introduce their alternative lifestyle into his bloodline, rather than the specific hate for gays (like hitler hating the jews)

no i am not. OUt there in the world and sg there are people condemning gays.

Hope u don't harbour the motive of posting the nick of the forumer here to start flame war.

Stevenson101 SG

so how? if I look at a female person's ass, I'm a lesbian...??

That depends! Do you fantasize about it even when you're not looking at it?

But personally i think i define homosexuality as only being able to be attracted to someone of the same sex (meaning, capable of loving).

Having only sex but no emotional attachment doesn't really classify as homosexuality to me. I mean, then every man who has been to prison would have been a homosexual.

dumbdumb! SG

1) You don't pick up the habit from passive smoking but it affects your health nevertheless.

2) It is not contagious but some of you think you can become gay by simply by hanging around gay people, reading about alternative lifestyles or listening to gay rights arguments.

3) Straight people do commit sodomy when desperate, but that does not make them gay.

4) What influence, pray tell? I've already said that you can't be influenced unless you are gay but denying it initially.

Stop deliberately twisting what I have said.

hmm. i kinda disagree with that. some people aren't gays, but they think they are. i'm speaking right out of the hat here, but aren't there cases where like girls who are straight, but experimented before and they thought they were gay, but they never were?

sgdiehard SG

I think that would classify you as a bisexual, not a homosexual.

when I was born, I was classified a boy. then I have many boy friends, they are nice buddy. we held hands when we were young. when I got older, I only hold hands with girls. I married a girl.

the beauty of man is that they think and act in my wavelength. the beauty of women is that they do many things good and nice that man cannot do. I appreciate both.

I don't look at their arse to find their beauty, actually, everything that come from arse is no good. there is no such thing as "their shit don't stink"

Stevenson101 SG

I think when people are complaining about homosexuals they're mostly complaining about male homosexuals.

dumbdumb! SG

no i am not. OUt there in the world and sg there are people condemning gays.

Hope u don't harbour the motive of posting the nick of the forumer here to start flame war.

you give me too much credit.

hmm. i think most ppl in sg here don't agree with their lifestyle, which is different from condemning gays.

what i define as condemning gays, would be like rednecks driving their truck and taking pot shots at gays with their shotguns just to show their hate.

and also, idiots who wave around banners saying "God hates gays", which is totally bullshit.

i don't see that in singapore. rather, i just see that ppl in singapore disagree with their lifestyle, and do not encourage it. that's all. nobody's hunting down anyone.

dumbdumb! SG

I think when people are complaining about homosexuals they're mostly complaining about male homosexuals.

lol. u know, u're right. hahaha.

sgdiehard SG

1) You don't pick up the habit from passive smoking but it affects your health nevertheless.

2) It is not contagious but some of you think you can become gay by simply by hanging around gay people, reading about alternative lifestyles or listening to gay rights arguments.

3) Straight people do commit sodomy when desperate, but that does not make them gay.

4) What influence, pray tell? I've already said that you can't be influenced unless you are gay but denying it initially.

Stop deliberately twisting what I have said.

cool down, nobody is deliberately twiisting what you said. Either you din't make it clear to me or I didn't understand what you say.

need to go out. will come back to you. I don't agree with some of the things you said.

Stevenson101 SG

when I was born, I was classified a boy. then I have many boy friends, they are nice buddy. we held hands when we were young. when I got older, I only hold hands with girls. I married a girl.

the beauty of man is that they think and act in my wavelength. the beauty of women is that they do many things good and nice that man cannot do. I appreciate both.

I don't look at their arse to find their beauty, actually, everything that come from arse is no good. there is no such thing as "their shit don't stink"

You know when i bring out the arse argument it was meant to mean that i would never be able to look at a man the same way i would look at a woman, i can't ever be made to like the shape of a man over a woman. I did not meant it to be literal.

Kuali Baba SG

Curiosity and experimentation is just a phase, and many get over it eventually. Fantasies don't count either.

Stevenson101 SG

you give me too much credit.

hmm. i think most ppl in sg here don't agree with their lifestyle, which is different from condemning gays.

what i define as condemning gays, would be like rednecks driving their truck and taking pot shots at gays with their shotguns just to show their hate.

and also, idiots who wave around banners saying "God hates gays", which is totally bullshit.

i don't see that in singapore. rather, i just see that ppl in singapore disagree with their lifestyle, and do not encourage it. that's all. nobody's hunting down anyone.

I disagree with the lifestyle of even my colleagues, that's how life is going to be. You'd never totally agree with even the lifestyle of your wife.

If homosexuals want to have kinky sex in their own bedroom that's fine with me. It's their own property.

I may not like their lifestyle, but i would resist any attempts to legalize any discriminations against them.

dumbdumb! SG

Curiosity and experimentation is just a phase, and many get over it eventually. Fantasies don't count either.

many, not all

Kuali Baba SG

you give me too much credit.

hmm. i think most ppl in sg here don't agree with their lifestyle, which is different from condemning gays.

what i define as condemning gays, would be like rednecks driving their truck and taking pot shots at gays with their shotguns just to show their hate.

and also, idiots who wave around banners saying "God hates gays", which is totally bullshit.

i don't see that in singapore. rather, i just see that ppl in singapore disagree with their lifestyle, and do not encourage it. that's all. nobody's hunting down anyone.

We can't be so sure since the laws here are a lot stricter. But in the playground, bullies are probably wrecking the same emotional havoc, because they have been conditioned by their parents to regard gays and sissies are the same disgusting lot.

The government has been open in accepting the need to tolerate gays at the workplace, but on the quiet, it clamps down on overt expressions of their lifestyle.

dumbdumb! SG

I disagree with the lifestyle of even my colleagues, that's how life is going to be. You'd never totally agree with even the lifestyle of your wife.

If homosexuals want to have kinky sex in their own bedroom that's fine with me. It's their own property.

I may not like their lifestyle, but i would resist any attempts to legalize any discriminations against them.

i think alot of people are overexaggerating about how discriminated they are? to be truthful, the way i see it, it's the people who don't agree with the alternative lifestyle who are being discriminated here.

if you don't support discrimination, then you should apply that to everyone, not just to a specific group of people.

i don't see any treatment in singapore which resembles anything like those dark times of USA where blacks and coloured folks aren't allowed to patronize certain stores etc.

i'm fine if they keep it in the bedroom, but i think nowadays, it's going beyond that, pro-gays are pushing that it is alright, it is natural, it is the alternative lifestyle. they are getting more aggressive in wanting to be recognised as natural and well, don't shoot me, i don't think it's natural at all. - take the miss california incident... manipulative gay individuals taking advantage of the controversy that it is politically correct to support the gay lifestyle, to pressure others into giving comments to show their "support" for them

Kuali Baba SG

many, not all

The ones who realise that it's not just experimentation are the ones who remain. The rest are the ones who find that it's not what they're looking for. I still don't think it's sufficient grounds to say that you can be permanently influenced to switch sexual orientation.

dumbdumb! SG

The government has been open in accepting the need to tolerate gays at the workplace, but on the quiet, it clamps down on overt expressions of their lifestyle.

oh definitely. i think it's wrong not to love them as they are, but loving them doesn't mean i have to accept that their lifestyle is correct. neither does it mean i cannot talk negative about their lifestyle.

like i detest smoking, i have smoking friends, and i'll always tell them to quit.

dumbdumb! SG

not enough studies done anyway.

but even so, i wouldn't like it if a gay comes around telling my kid that it's normal and alright and invites him over to "experiment and see if he likes it"

Stevenson101 SG

if you don't support discrimination, then you should apply that to everyone, not just to a specific group of people.

i don't see any treatment in singapore which resembles anything like those dark times of USA where blacks and coloured folks aren't allowed to patronize certain stores etc.

If they keep it in the bedroom i'm fine with it as well.

However i don't really want to see Gay is Right! posters all over my void decks either. I don't really want mass events of homosexuals kissing and fondling each other in public. But i don't want to hear about campaigns telling children it is alright to be gay because given their impressionable young minds they're going to experiment.

Granted, they're not natural. But considering they can't really reproduce you have to wonder how homosexuals keep existing throughout history. They exist, end of story.
If they wish to have civil unions to make it easier for them to function legally, fine.

But they are forever going to be the minority, and i have no wish to see them push their lifestyle on us. I won't try to throw them into rehab in order to force the gayness out of them nor would i say it is wrong.

Kuali Baba SG

if you don't support discrimination, then you should apply that to everyone, not just to a specific group of people.

i don't see any treatment in singapore which resembles anything like those dark times of USA where blacks and coloured folks aren't allowed to patronize certain stores etc.

I agree with what part of what you have said, that being anti-discrimination goes both ways. That is why I find it sad that adoption centres with Christian and Catholic patronage in the UK have to close or change names because of the new anti-discriminatory laws. It's not as if gay couples and single parents have other adoption centres to go to there.

However, it is difficult to support the segment of the anti-alternative lifestyle lobby that only says, "It's disgusting/unnatural/a slippery slope/etc" without reasoned dialogue. Unfortunately, they are the most vocal of the bunch too. It could also be that the tides are changing, just as we now condemn any views that support racism, deny the Holocaust or detest mixed marriages.

Kuali Baba SG

not enough studies done anyway.

but even so, i wouldn't like it if a gay comes around telling my kid that it's normal and alright and invites him over to "experiment and see if he likes it"

That is an issue of dealing with peer pressure isn't it?

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