Record jobs to be lost & foreigners still flocking here

last SG · 2009-03-12T11:46:13+00:00

With Singapore's unemployment rate increasing, maybe we should import more foreigners so that Singaporeans will have more jobs, because foreigners create jo...

skythewood SG

I can attest to the report that many foreigners were at the job fair.

I am not discriminating. It is a FACT.

I also heard from one of the exhibitors at the suntec job fair that she witnessed many foreigners looking for jobs there.

I personally have witnessed many foreigners at HDB job fairs. there is one booth that requires applicants to fill up a form and show their IC, many are blue. This means foreigners. I do not discriminate. But this is a FACT. a PR is a foreigner is also a fact. I have not even considered the foreigners without long term permits.

Many as shown in the news are jobless from their motherland like india and china and the Philipines. Where do they go that is for sure welcoming? They head to sg.

Before the crisis, there were already over 1 million foreigners working here. the SP (work permit pass) was introduced also a few years back. Many of these may have converted to PR. When the crisis suddenly hit, SG was the 1st to go down in whole of Asia. What happen to the 1 million foreigners? Why are so many foreigners looking for job in sg during this crisis?

When jobs are scarce, can singaporeans be given more chance to survive this period. When boom again, whenever that may be, when there is a scarcity of resources, I will be the 1st to welcome them.

yes, many people with blue IC at job fair... meaning many people with blue IC got retrenched. Were you expecting them to just vanish after getting retrenched? They worked here don't know how long le, they want to find another job here nothing wrong what. But they cannot find one and have to go to job fair...

skythewood SG

I did not use the word 'no foreigner' here. Nobody here ever did.

Up to mid 2010, with projected 90,000 workers expecting to be laidoff soon, is it wise to keep the floodgate of foreigners coming unchecked?

I didn't quote you what. what the hell...

dotaro SG

If Philipines is doing well, we won;t be seeing so many of them here as blue and white collared workers.

We won't be seeing them here applying for jobs in the IRs which our governments says are meant to create jobs for Singaporeans.

Perhaps, our GLC should consider investing in Philipines, so that they won;t need to come over to our shores.

skythewood SG

If Philipines is doing well, we won;t be seeing so many of them here as blue and white collared workers.

We won't be seeing them here applying for jobs in the IRs which our governments says are meant to create jobs for Singaporeans.

Perhaps, our GLC should consider investing in Philipines, so that they won;t need to come over to our shores.

hmmm, so you are saying they come here as visitors, apply for job, and get to stay here?

Or you know how the process of they getting a job here goes?

likedatosocan SG

no one said they wish them to vanish.

employers certainly dont for profit reasons.

since you are concerned about FT, in addition to your postings, have you ever tried to help them find a job , say in your company? there are so many FTs, certainly 1 of these have the same skills as you ? why not you talk to your HR or give the FTs the email to write in to? or tel no? or your office address? you may also have coffee with them to listen to their stories of job seeking, the challenges and ups and downs? at least you can provide them a shoulder to cry on? or lend a helping hand or useful ear?

singaporeans are used to being told No one owes you a living. and thus.

skythewood SG

no one said they wish them to vanish.

employers certainly dont for profit reasons.

singaporeans are used to being told No one owes you a living. and thus.

What the hell you talking about? I just explained to the best of my knowledge why there are people with blue IC at job fairs... did i say someone wish them to vanish? I said they don't just vanish, they will try to stay on.

Now you accuse me of siding with foreigners? How about this... fuck you. fuck you too, foreigners! Is that what you want?

dotaro SG

hmmm, so you are saying they come here as visitors, apply for job, and get to stay here?

Or you know how the process of they getting a job here goes?

You'd be surprised how easy our foreign friends can land jobs here.

skythewood SG

You'd be surprised how easy our foreign friends can land jobs here.

you work at mom or something? my dad does construction, and he simply cannot find singaporeans to work for him... the employment process is quite tedious too...

dotaro SG

you work at mom or something? my dad does construction, and he simply cannot find singaporeans to work for him... the employment process is quite tedious too...

Nah, if you'd have patience to read the MOM stuff in their website, you'll realise.

I'm sorry you dad has problems with hiring our local folks...I guess your dad can;t afford to pay them.

SGD600-800. exc OT pay.

Which Singaporean would accept that?

Unless...you pay around $1500, exc OT.

Plus free insurance coverage.

Or you pay by hourly rate.

Then locals may take up.

angel7030 SG

Yes, true the foreigners are flocking here, but the there are also many being send back, and the send back ones do outweight the incoming ones. It is just a reducation in replacement of the current lots here, which is shrinking too.

Logic behind this replacement was most older one being here for 4 to 6 years, all salaries had gone up and most already know the in and out of working here, i.e know how to go lazy and hiding or mc and some can even demand for more..

The replacement is a renewal of new blood with a new yes sir mindset very much intact. Better control and of course, lower paid.

Employing local workers is a problem in heavy industries such as road works, construction and Marine or oil rigs. Our people are mostly ah pek or uncles liao, most prefer to laze in my outside joo chiat coffee shops or geyland. Not only local workers demand high paid, they also like to complaint a lot and alway show dissatifaction to bosses like me.

Fantagf SG

I am worried about your style of replying.

'No Foreigner' is an extreme way to describe.

Does forummers mean they want no foreigners?

Of course not. They are saying "congee is scarce, monks are many".

In the 1st place, why is there a need for foreigners?

Lack of resources.

But in a crisis where retrenchments are happening? You think there is a scarcity of resources? Definitely much much much less than before. But what is the number of foreigners here already? How many are on their way coming in already? Where is the control?

So, I mean the way you reply seems to be a bit sweeping statement. Hope you don't mind my honest comment.

Great reply. Hope the reply will knock some sense into the sky.

skythewood SG

Great reply. Hope the reply will knock some sense into the sky.

haha

Fantagf SG

haha

Hope you don't get offended. Sometimes I myself don't see the pic until someone pointed it to me.

skythewood SG

Hope you don't get offended. Sometimes I myself don't see the pic until someone pointed it to me.

haha

Cheowyonglee SG

i agree that too many foriegners are here in Singapore to fight with locals for jobs that locals can do.i have been to the job fair and i seen it with my own eyes.

most if not all, foriegners flock here because their government cant do a good jobs to provide them with jobs and secrurity.Their corrupted government only know how to spend the countries wealth instead of put in more passion and hardwork on how to build a strong economic to provide jobs for their citizens.without compassion towards their citizens, their corrupted government caused alot of their citizens without jobs and poor to the extend of robberies everywhere.

So, now they cant find jobs, Singaporeans had to give our ricebowl to them?Is this logical?To those who support the government policy of letting in foriegners without any check and balance, their country problem is our problem?

To show compassion to the foriegners doesnt mean we had to let go of our own citizens ricebowl.Our son and daughter are the future generations to build our country, our parents need ricebowl to feed them.Not that we lack of compassion towards the foriegners, but sometimes we need to think of reality, and reality is, protect our own citizens first before talking about helping others.

Imagine Singapore was so compassion towards Malaysia that we let in so many Malaysians into our shore to work either as operators or other jobs during the good times.i work in factory before and i know.If not for Singapore compassion, do you guys think Malaysia can create so many jobs for so many Malaysian workers during the 80's and 90's?

Now economic go downhill in Malaysia, they are stopping foriegners and that including us Singaporeans.If let's say down here we are really so short of jobs, we need to work in Malaysia, but now they are cutting down on foriegners, so aint that so called protecting their own citizens first?We help others during good times, during bad times who going to help us?

Think about it, helping foriegners and helping our citizens are 2 different things.Don't mix up reality and compassion.And compassion doesnt mean let go of our own priority. Hope my article can make some sense to some who still think we must let in as much foriegners as possible if not our economic will go bust.

aunty joanne SG

I agreed totally with you. I worked in factory in the 80s before (there are many singaporean) now I joined back the workforce and choose to work in the factory. Do you know wat?? 90% of the production operators are malaysian holding a PR.They are drawing the same pay as we singaporean. They work here, earn sing dollars, but stay in Malaysia. I do not know why government issues so many PR. Jobs all goes to them instead of singaporean. Really very sad to see our citizens without job and foreigners earning our money and critisizing our country.

jgho83 SG

FT come here work.. they damn happy becos they can earn many times more compared to their country (are those even countries to begin with).

To a certain extent, they do take away the rice bowl of many sgreans. Maybe a FT arrival cap is really needed to stop the rot.

parn SG

FT come here work.. they damn happy becos they can earn many times more compared to their country (are those even countries to begin with).

To a certain extent, they do take away the rice bowl of many sgreans. Maybe a FT arrival cap is really needed to stop the rot.

Best if FT get taxed higher and has higher cpf contributions.....see still got anymore FT wanna stay in SG or not.

Special Public transport levies to be imposed on FTs Not-so-easy-liao Ezylink cards.

And all those levies collected will go into the Special DEFENCE funds against FTs.....or can distribute another round of SG shares?

webben SG

Best if FT get taxed higher and has higher cpf contributions.....see still got anymore FT wanna stay in SG or not.

Special Public transport levies to be imposed on FTs Not-so-easy-liao Ezylink cards.

And all those levies collected will go into the Special DEFENCE funds against FTs.....or can distribute another round of SG shares?

To me I feel like a lot of blame is being attributed to the FT themselves. It's like the FT are infiltrating the SG system or the system isn't able to cope with the FT without impacting us local workers. Will higher taxes or E-fuck-off-Z-link changes solve the problem? No.

I feel this is unfair, because the FT situation is a direct result of government policy. This isn't something the government needs to improve on. This is how the government INTENDS it. Whether it's for the long term good of Singaporeans or to bolster corporate income, the fact remains that the influx of FT is the intended result of government policy. Don't blame or penalise the foreigners coming in for what they thinks is a fair deal.

parn SG

There's really no such thing as a fair deal.

And it isn't exactly what the government has intended it like what you have mentioned.

But you can blame the government for recruiting talents who aren't "evil" enough to devise good but efficient double standards policies which will silently protects it's country's welfare against foreigners who comes to rape our country and it's people of their rights and welfare openly and globally.

FTs of course are welcome to take advantage of Singapore, but it is also necessary for the government to take back at least every 60cents for every dollar earned.

There's no such things as a free lunch or a free ride to capitalism, not even a free ride home.

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