Status of human rights in the Arab region

parn SG

Every person with a weapon is guilty of killing anyway.

Don't tell me they don't have the temptation to use the weapon that they are holding onto?

They are just waiting for a reason to use it isn't it?

Some more desperate ones make up some lame reasons/excuses and use those weapons to kill others and then hide behind those reasons/excuses for protection.

Many people in the world are like this, they are evil, greedy, dumb and hopeless.

oxford mushroom SG

And how many died during the crusades and the spanish inquisition? Mindlessly laying the blame on a religion like some imbeciles in this forum is the most effective way of creating a new generation of terrorists.

Stevenson101 SG

Every person with a weapon is guilty of killing anyway.

Don't tell me they don't have the temptation to use the weapon that they are holding onto?

They are just waiting for a reason to use it isn't it?

Some more desperate ones make up some lame reasons/excuses and use those weapons to kill others and then hide behind those reasons/excuses for protection.

Many people in the world are like this, they are evil, greedy, dumb and hopeless.

I hate to admit it, but somehow i reckon most of this "many people" would just turn out to be men.

xtreyier SG

Human beings have the capacity to build as well as to destroy.
Alone, he has limited capability. But when he 'influence' others, that capability becomes extensive.

What better 'influence' than religion to gain recruits, funds and sympathizers? More so a religion that 'allows' killing of innocents if 'mis-interpretated'?

If people who blame religion as the root cause of terrorism are 'imbeciles', than can it be equally said those who do not are delusionists who dares not confront the truth, and in their blind apathy, are the cause of more terrorists being generated?

This is no play play, billions of innocent lives are involved. If nothing is done, more will only die needlessly and senselessly.

Correct the flaws in religions and evil men or women will have no access to funds, recruits and sympathizers. They will be isolated and can be easily tracked and apprehended by the authorities.

xtreyier SG

The developement of human rights comes hand in hand with economic progress. In a chaotic and dangerous environment, the only human right affordable is based on religion, to provide comfort of a better afterlife and the ability to bear this life in suffering.

Middle east is not without resources, but only that no investor would dare contemplate long term investments in that volatile region, save only oil.

As such, whatever money govts and kings make, it is either hoarded up or spent overseas, of which only benefits other countries.

As much social developement and social spending can or had been used to generate economic activity there by govts, there are not enough jobs to grow an affluent middle class whom will be able to champion worthy causes such as environment or human rights with a large critical mass.

Thus, it is vital that the Middle East stop playing hosts to evil men twisting religion to their own selfish ends who are only destroying not only their religion, but their economic opportunities as well.

Many middle-easterners knows this, but the evil men in the guise of religion is not giving them a chance to grow, and fearing reprisals from them, have no choice but to accept their fate being dictated by this evil minority.

There must be a change of policy to help our brother/sister humans living in the middle-east to move into the 21st century. But more importantly, they must be able to accept facts and want that change itself. If not, they will forever be where they are today, and no one else in the world can be blamed, for this is what they wished for.

Display Name SG

They should promote online gaming in middle east, so that those with extreme hatred can release their hatred during the game playing.
Once they login to the game, they can choose whatever weapons they like, machine gun, bomb, shoes. Then choose what country, people and leader they want to whack.
No kidding, this will solve many problems.

Meat Pao SG

I am very sad reading this thread.

Even though in Arab region there is human rights problem, it is not in any way unique or different with other regions in the world.

All regions have human rights problems, according to their own intrinsic issues, stages of development, history, culture, and so on.

While some observer who come from outside, can notice and see those problems, I think it is important to be a little more humble and understanding, and think in terms of equality and respect.

freedomclub SG

Coincidentally, most, if not all, Arab countries are predominantly Muslim.

Display Name SG

The arab chaotic condition now is partly due to British policy which is to let the colony split into many smaller countries when getting independence.
British like to leave behind some seed of war and territorial conflict, for example come out with border not recognized by neighbouring country, or create some incidents for future conflict to take place.
If they let the whole Arab to declare independence as one big country, a lot of issues and war wouldn't happen.

Arapahoe SG

I saw this news on CNN. A clear dysfunction practice that has yet to evolve. Another reason why the international communities could not accept Arab morality.

Ever wonder why The west practice double standard.........?

The debate over the controversial practice of child marriage in Saudi Arabia was pushed back into the spotlight this week, with the kingdom's top cleric saying that it's OK for girls as young as 10 to wed.

"It is incorrect to say that it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger," Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh, the kingdom's grand mufti, said in remarks quoted Wednesday in the regional Al-Hayat newspaper. "A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her."

The issue of child marriage has been a hot-button topic in the deeply conservative kingdom in recent weeks.

Late last month, a Saudi judge refused to annul the marriage of an 8-year-old girl to a 47-year-old man.

The judge, Sheikh Habib Abdallah al-Habib, rejected a petition from the girl's mother, whose lawyer said the marriage was arranged by her father to settle a debt with "a close friend." The judge required the girl's husband to sign a pledge that he would not have sex with her until she reaches puberty.

Al-Sheikh was asked during a Monday lecture about parents forcing their underage daughters to marry.

Christoph Wilcke, a Saudi Arabia researcher for Human Rights Watch, recently told CNN that his organization has heard many other cases of child marriages.

"We've been hearing about these types of cases once every four or five months because the Saudi public is now able to express this kind of anger -- especially so when girls are traded off to older men," Wilcke said.

Wilcke explained that while Saudi ministries may make decisions designed to protect children, "It is still the religious establishment that holds sway in the courts, and in many realms beyond the court."

Last month, Zuhair al-Harithi, a spokesman for the Saudi government-run Human Rights Commission, said his organization is fighting against child marriages.

"The Human Rights Commission opposes child marriages in Saudi Arabia," al-Harithi said. "Child marriages violate international agreements that have been signed by Saudi Arabia and should not be allowed." He added that his organization has been able to intervene and stop at least one child marriage from taking place.

Wajeha al-Huwaider, co-founder of the Society of Defending Women's Rights in Saudi Arabia, told CNN last month that achieving human rights in the kingdom means standing against those who want to "keep us backward and in the dark ages."

She said the marriages cause girls to "lose their sense of security and safety. Also, it destroys their feeling of being loved and nurtured. It causes them a lifetime of psychological problems and severe depression."

The Saudi Ministry of Justice has made no public comment on the issue.

Stevenson101 SG

Well, the Americans are the ones providing the money for them to stay in power. They don't really have incentive to improve their society if the ruling elites are rich.

We can pretty much pretend to be sympathetic and moan all we want in Singapore about the state of the society in the Middle East but as long as we continue to consume fossil fuels we continue to support their oppression.

Arapahoe SG

Well, the Americans are the ones providing the money for them to stay in power. They don't really have incentive to improve their society if the ruling elites are rich.

The Guardian of Morality in the society approved the practice, and the civil govt kept quiet a total lack of leadership from the civil authority ......

Incentive.....? What incentive do u think u can have to transform? before you start blaming the world over?

Stevenson101 SG

The Guardian of Morality in the society approved the practice, and the civil govt kept quiet a total lack of leadership from the civil authority ......

Incentive.....? What incentive do u think u can have to transform? before you start blaming the world over?

The civil government doesn't really need to care because it has the money to give its citizens fuel/medical/tax subsidies. As long as that is fulfilled, social unrest would be kept at a minimum, it doesn't really need to care what this "Guardian of Morality" wants to do.

Why would it need any reasons to transform? Its citizens are satisfied as long as the oil money is flowing in. Basic neccessities are fulfilled.

You look at my comments like i'm blaming someone else for the problem, which i admit i did when i brought out the Americans. Rest assured the entire world, including Singaporeans has a hand to play in this sort of sorry affairs.

Arapahoe SG

why don't you face it....the solution on Human right violation in Arab or other parts of the world for that matter is never by improving Social economics nor allow Time to evolve......

Let me put it in simple term improving Social Economics as you put it in Arab there are plenty of Money it doesn't work....Time improved jack shit if you don;t take action.

In most western country having sex with under age children Is call it : Pedophiles.

What Arab states needs are more open society, moving towards understanding of behavior sciences.

Let me quote

What is needed is a move beyond tradition, nothing less than a reform movement to bring the core concepts of Islam into the modern age, a Muslim Reformation to combat not only the jihadist ideologues but also the dusty, stifling seminaries of the traditionalists, throwing open the windows to let in much-needed fresh air. (...) It is high time, for starters, that Muslims were able to study the revelation of their religion as an event inside history, not supernaturally above it. (...) Broad-mindedness is related to tolerance; open-mindedness is the sibling of peace

Sir Ahmed Salman Rushdie

It has nothing to do with American or any countries for that matters. You can't be an Infidel by eating a Hamburger.

Stevenson101 SG

why don't you face it....the solution on Human right violation in Arab or other parts of the world for that matter is never by improving Social economics nor allow Time to evolve......

Let me put it in simple term improving Social Economics as you put it in Arab there are plenty of Money it doesn't work....Time improved jack shit if you don;t take action.

In most western country having sex with under age children Is call it : Pedophiles.

What Arab states needs are more open society, moving towards understanding of behavior sciences.

Let me quote

Sir Ahmed Salman Rushdie

It has nothing to do with American or any countries for that matters. You can't be an Infidel by eating a Hamburger.

Social Economics has always been key to the stability of a society. As long as stability exists there will be no incentive to change, especially a way of life that has worked for them for centuries. While Saudi Arabia is the richest country in the Middle East, it is the most conservative (They don't even have female participants for the Olympics)

They are actually the main sponsors for fundamentalist Islam and give more money to terrorist cells compared to Iran. (The number of Saudi Arabians in the 9-11 terrorists list is more than self evident)

Actually i'm facing reality more than you are.

If we want the Saudi Arabians to change, we have to pressure them to do it. Right now, we're buying something essential for the functioning of our country from them .

As long as we continue to do that, we are not going to make them do anything. We expect them to change the fundamentals of their society because if offends our sense of morality, they can also demand we not rely on their oil if their social habits offends us so much.

We want them to change? First we got to make sure we stop buying oil from them. Bahrain has to open up and liberalize because of their dwindling oil resources, i don't see how anything less would force Saudi Arabia to change.

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