Singapore sentence 20yr old to hang

last SG · 2009-01-03T16:07:57+00:00

Point taken, but the question remains - where do you draw the line on (sub)cultures that should be accepted and/or legalised, with consistency?P.S. You do re...

jondizzle foshizzle SG

I agree with you on the part of learning responsibility.

However, have you considered how much harm this "social drugs" would inflict on our society? Have we have not enough alcohol addicts to deal with already? Must we legalize more drugs so that people can have more options to get high and cause more trouble.

I believe that the consumption of marijuana is less a threat to the society compared to alcohol. People are stoned rather than mad. But i also believe that both marijuana alcohol does harm to the human body. So should we legalise more options for people to harm themselves?

Besides, what may work for a liberal western society may not work for our more conservative asian society.

Drugs aren't just people harming themselves, if you choose to put it that way then unhealthy food is just a way for people to harm themselves. It is the individual's choice whether or not he wishes to deal with the medical consequences of drug use and I don't see why you or the government should have a say in it.

Please rid yourself of all typically Singaporean preconceptions of drugs. People who get high rarely cause trouble and even if they do, there are already non-drug related laws being enforced.

viciouskitty74 SG

What everyone was trying to tell you.

Responsible use of marijuana, does not mean that any person can be responsible, with or without the high of marijuana.

Much like a gambler with gambling habits.

viciouskitty74 SG

Look, I understand what you are trying to say. Look at guns.

How few consider weapons shooting as a sport and how many consider that its a dangerous thing and will never touch it. (Except maybe the NS boys, you guys got no choice.)

Or blood donation, how many will insist they are 'low blood' as an excuse they cannot donate blood. I can understand about being scared of needles, but I cannot understand why people like to suggest that they are low blood without doctors confirmation.

jondizzle foshizzle SG

My dear,

crime stem from poverty, legalising marijuana will do what to the economy and encourage the people to do what? Prosper?

In the case of the United States, it will boost the economy by an estimated billions.

http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=73

viciouskitty74 SG

In the case of the United States, parents will rally to move the family out of those states.

And boy, dont suggest United States anymore please, there is already a few people currently in United States and telling you to quit suggesting what you are not experiencing.

jondizzle foshizzle SG

What everyone was trying to tell you.

Responsible use of marijuana, does not mean that any person can be responsible, with or without the high of marijuana.

Much like a gambler with gambling habits.

Sure not every person can be responsible, but the second they endanger someone else by cause of being under the influence, they will be prosecuted for the appropriate crime committed e.g. assault.

Another part of regulation would be to enforce harsher punishment for those committing crimes while under the influence to act as a further incentive for responsible drug usage.

jondizzle foshizzle SG

In the case of the United States, parents will rally to move the family out of those states.

And boy, dont suggest United States anymore please, there is already a few people currently in United States and telling you to quit suggesting what you are not experiencing.

Parents will rally to move the family out of the states? Another baseless claim. Even if it happens then so be it. They have the freedom to live wherever they wish.

viciouskitty74 SG

Jon, do you remember the chewing gum law?

Care to tell me your understanding of it?

viciouskitty74 SG

Parents will rally to move the family out of the states? Another baseless claim. Even if it happens then so be it. They have the freedom to live wherever they wish.

and Singapore can take that multitude of family moving away, or parents sending their children away?

Have you considered the size of Singapore and USA, or at least Malaysia?

jondizzle foshizzle SG

Jon, do you remember the chewing gum law?

Care to tell me your understanding of it?

I don't see the connection but as I remember it, imposing the law restricting the use of all chewig gum essentially took money out of the Singaporean economy by causing all Singaporeans to purchase their gum overseas, most frequently Malaysia, and bringing them over the border.

The law was revised in 2004 which allowed gum of therapeutic value to be imported.

viciouskitty74 SG

Jon, I have a14year old half sister in Phuket Thailand.

Due to the high levels of drug consumption and teenage pregnancies in the schools. The families with some $$$ are all prepared to send the children away from Thailand the moment there is a hint of drugs in their children's friends body system.

Would you understand how a big brotherr/sister/ mother or father feels?

jondizzle foshizzle SG

and Singapore can take that multitude of family moving away, or parents sending their children away?

Have you considered the size of Singapore and USA, or at least Malaysia?

Care to provide some evidence supporting your claim that a multitude of families would move away? Or will you just pull those assertions out of thin air as you have been doing this entire thread?

viciouskitty74 SG

and you based that on what?

Your personal feelings or other people's personal feelings?

When I asked whether you remembered, you only stated law.

But why did it come into place in the first place?

Why was chewing gums banned?

jondizzle foshizzle SG

Jon, I have a14year old half sister in Phuket Thailand.

Would you understand how a big brotherr/sister/ mother or father feels?

Again, imposing age restrictions would entail the legalisation of drugs as I have stated many times before. Also, like I have said, legalisation would not cause an increase in recreational drug use as shown by the Netherlands.

viciouskitty74 SG

Care to provide some evidence supporting your claim that a multitude of families would move away? Or will you just pull those assertions out of thin air as you have been doing this entire thread?

Jon, I believe I've suggested that you are allowed to meet me, face to face and examine my credentials.

If you cannot even dare to meet up, you think you providing evidence of other peoples research, you are very believable?

viciouskitty74 SG

You basing your figures from when to when?

jondizzle foshizzle SG

and you based that on what?

Your personal feelings or other people's personal feelings?

When I asked whether you remembered, you only stated law.

But why did it come into place in the first place?

Why was chewing gums banned?

I based all of my points on statistics, medical and scientific research, and economic publications. I'm getting the feeling that you're not looking at any of my citations or linked sources.

Chewing gum was banned because it was causing problems with its disposal. Again, nothing to do with the topic at hand.

viciouskitty74 SG

Chewing gum was banned because it was causing problems with its disposal. Again, nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Disposal of who?

Was there a matter of disposing it as hazard material, or that our incinerators cannot manage the input or its non biodegradable?

viciouskitty74 SG

And please, you like to accuse others of not bringing you links on articles published by others.

But because you bring links to articles supporting your claims, does not make you any smarter then those who experienced life and enjoyed the same quality of life in Singapore.

If you seek a change, and want to compare a landmass 1k times bigger then Singapore, then you need to tune yourself to look smaller.

Singapore is afterall, 41.6km wide and 23 km tall on its surface.

How about, we consider geylang and the rest of Singapore.

How many families is living in geylang district compared to lets say Old Airport Estate next to geylang.

jondizzle foshizzle SG

Jon, I believe I've suggested that you are allowed to meet me, face to face and examine my credentials.

If you cannot even dare to meet up, you think you providing evidence of other peoples research, you are very believable?

Unless you are a medical expert or someone in the scientific field, an economist, a sociologist, criminologist or a statistician and you have done extensive research into the subject then your credentials don't matter.

I do have a stigma of meeting up with complete strangers who I've only ever spoken to online. Why don't you tell me your credentials right here?

Well if statistics, medical journals and scientific publications aren't enough for you then I'm afraid you will never be convinced of anything and you are just being stubborn and refusing to accept my evidential support. So far you have done nothing but deny, deny, deny without properly addressing my points or presenting a counter-argument that holds water.

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