JI Leader Mas Selamat Escaped From Detention Centre

last SG · 2008-02-27T22:48:34+00:00

Game over. Watch the ch8 news?? good job

pearlie27 SG

I think our dear friend is probably hidden by some sympathisers out there getting drinks/food for him daily. The govt should come up with a reward that does not make use of the tax-payer's monies. $ will act as a push-factor to those sympathisers who are sitting on the fence, particularly a 7-figure sum. Motivating some informers or betrayals will be the best bet to find him.

To get this amount, probably as an out-of-the-box method, Mr Wong could suggest a way to motivate/mobilise all the ministers to donate a portion of their pay increment for the month into a "Find Mas Selamat Reward Fund". I believe this could easily add up to a 7 figure sum?

i second your idea. But think we can call it "Gold (Mas in Malay means gold) Hunting Reward" as everyone will be motivated to go gold hunting. The initial amount of the reward can be WKS's pay for Mar 2008 and for every month that Mas is not found WKS will have to give up his salary for the reward.

weiqimun SG

the easiest way to your 15mins of fame in Sinkapore now, just quote............

" i think i saw mas selamat"

someone ought to create a rap of this and maybe the post-65 or whatever MPs can sing n hip hop to it in this coming NDP.

WKS can manage the turn table console.

maurizio13 SG

Short Ninja SG

Wow nice tattoo man!!! hahaha

jay_rocks SG

How u got this??

And i thought ytd's wanbao, thr was an article on a lady was being asked by the limp for money. Then went away, but the lady report to the police 3 days after this incident cuz she didn't recognize it was him.

Short Ninja SG

Did the lady give him money? If it was him then he must be thinking….’I need to make a phonecall to my kah kia A.S.A.P’

nehpyh SG

the easiest way to your 15mins of fame in Sinkapore now, just quote............

" i think i saw mas selamat"

someone ought to create a rap of this and maybe the post-65 or whatever MPs can sing n hip hop to it in this coming NDP.

WKS can manage the turn table console.

charlize SG

Not important that he escaped lah.

As long as Singaporeans bond together and unite and don't point fingers at who is responsible for this incident.

That's the most important thing, right?

That's apparently what the media is focusing on.

mancha SG

NTR

balance_else_complacent SG

I firmly believe in our system and leaders capability.

I believe he will be caught within 6 months, not 6 years. only 6 months time should be more than sufficient. no need wait till 2009.

This case is Unlike the case of Terrorist leader Osamao, who is never caught for years and years. Before 911, no one would believe usa is not invincible.

911 proved everything.

singapore is fortunate not to have experienced much such unfortunate incidents. Its not like we have so much experience in dealing with these kinds of problems. A few incidents woke us up:

1. Collapse of the hotel.

2. Collapse of highway.

3. Rifle in Orchard.

4. One-Eye-Dragon

5. Mas Selamat.

The 5th one is thus far the most destructive or potentially most destructive in multiple aspects and ways.

Still, i am very confident in our leaders. How can I not be, most of us are. We still feel and think and trust that we are safe. thus we still sleep soundly.

Impression is one thing. Most important is reality.

TCH05 SG

Would you rather have mas selamat on the run or would you prefer to have MS surrender himself to the authority?

The only way to get MS surrender himself it to give him a chance to renew himself. His is human too you know..we all make mistake

I am not suggesting we should forgive what he has done, but rather give him an opportunity to serve his sentence and be a free man.

Atobe SG

If MAS is the type that is able to respond to reform and re-education efforts - he would not have made a break for freedom.

He is the hardcore diehard believer in his chosen path of political ideals, and will never be subjected to change.

Do you believe that diehards like the infamous Osama Bin Laden, and the Indonesian Cleric Abu Bakar Bashir can be so easily indoctrinated with new social and political values ?

These are the guys who will inspire and indoctrinate their new political idea of a religious empire onto anyone whom they can awe and subject to their own values and control in the interpretation of their Religious-Political Philosophies.

These are the guys who will want to usurp the reins of political power by the back door - not through personal merit as in some meritocratic society - but through the control and agitation of emotional and psychological - religious fervor.

Can we negotiate or reason with a person whose mind is closed, and is dedicated only to a chosen cause ?

balance_else_complacent SG

so, was any explanation given to how he escaped , what method, what was the flaw if any and did he escaped on his own and without any premeditation or plan or just by chance or purely good luck or no one got any idea? it just happened and what then to do ?

its been over 2 weeks, but I am still confident in 6 months or less, he will be caught given our men and women in uniforms and non-uniforms are so talented.

I also don't mind we advertise to the whole world for talents who can find out the above answers, if none of any of those i asked can be answered.

see, this is the kind of talent we should embrace and talk about. common skills ones, easy to train.

If more and more shun IT jobs given the cost competitiveness and the great abundance of supply and the highered like never before cost of living and the high stress and long hours and low quality of life, how many want to work in IT till 85?

If less locals go into IT, means more foreigners are needed in addition to status quo. wow, its good to be a businessman when you control the market and labor cost continues to be on the low or goes lower.

as for employees, well, they asked for it. if u know wtf i really mean.

T.Ryousuke SG

They r highly paid yet cannot do a clean job.

balance_else_complacent SG

was any image or video captured at all?

was there secruity guards watching the monitor of online surveillance at the time?

If they saw mas escaping, they would have screamed right?

If they did not, was there any sensor to detect motion?

If they did, was there anything done about it?

If they did not and there is video footage, can CNA broadcast it?

when it comes to anti-terrorism, transparency is key. critical info should be disseminated to the masses.

As of today , greennich meantime, I have no idea :

1. how he escaped,

2. is he REALLY still in sgpore? likewise, can also ask, is he REALLY not in sgpore?

3. any video? If have say have, no release is still better than not to say anything. The public may feel anxious.

4. any clues? any witnesses? any thing at all?

5. is there security breach on the part of our talented people?

6. what is the status? progress? report?

7. how safe are we given a JI terrorist leader is on the LOOSE?

8. what precaution should sgpore and citizens take?

9. What is the estimated time of capture?

10. is it impossible to capture even if he is still inside the island?

personally, I am confident he will be captured soon. but as always, I am curious to know, and so too are many, i assume.

Meat Pao SG

For me what surprised me is......that he had the desire to run.

It means....

The security people had not broken his will.

I think they should.

I mean, prison, the whole concept is to re-form right..?

And, terrorists, are people who have strong ideological beliefs, right?

So I think it is legitimate, that terrorists have to be given a strong mental re-education. Much much stronger than common criminals who dont have any ideological reason for carrying their acts.

A special program must be designed. I think they must have known some already. The police, or the intelligence, they must have known how to break people, including for extreme cases like the mind of a terrorist.

So what surprised me, is not only the lack of security at that prison, but also, lack of success in this regard, mental re-education.

They must apply a much stronger program.

Meat Pao.

fai SG

this is from wikipedia's article on "Ninja"

"The predecessors of Japan's ninja were so-called rebels favoring Buddhism who fled into the mountains near Kyoto as early as the 7th century A.D. to escape religious persecution and death at the hands of imperial forces."^[6]

Intonjutsu
(escape and concealment)

Intonjutsu is the Ninja art of "disappearing" and comprises various walking and stealth techniques such as Gotonpo (hiding knowing, using the five elements concepts), and Shinobi-Aruki (silent movement steps and leaps). Ninjas were experts in adapting and improvising in any situation the natural environment advantages, such as water flows, trees branches, or any natural obstacle. Combined with the attention-distracting techniques, with disguise or even taijutsu, and based on a deep understanding of all the 5 nature basic elements, such techniques assured Ninjas all the "ingredients" to conceal or escape from difficult situations.

mancha SG

Mat Selamat is not a ninja. It is stated in a post somewhere in this thread that he has a impression of a baby head on his forehead. He could be keeping a toyol.

fai SG

Mat Selamat is not a ninja. It is stated in a post somewhere in this thread that he has a impression of a baby head on his forehead. He could be keeping a toyol.

u should read the whole toyol article before making that assumption.

He is a ninja.

mancha SG

Ok, he has demonstrated some traits of a ninja, and as a terrorist suspect, could also be an assassin (from the Arabic hassassin). He has acquired some sort of art, as he diligently avoid being captured when he moved about in Indonesia.

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