Taiwan vs Singapore

last SG · 2008-10-31T14:49:31+00:00

Taiwan has more political freedom than us but some ppl abuse that freedom to commit crime such as fighting in the legislature and violent protests on streets...

reyes SG

At least in Taiwan govt take people's money they call it corruption

In SG leaders take people's money is called pay raise or to 'prevent corruption'

well said.

depends on what side of the story you would rather believe in.

reyes SG

the taiwanese ppl has higher political awareness compare to Sgoreans. that is without a doubt.

One of major reason is the role of the media. In taiwan, almost every TV station( maybe less MTV channel) has a timeslot for political discussion. This in turn will raise the awareness of citizens and thus exert pressure on the govt to action against potential area of corruption.

TV station has to be unbiased, actively enageg the sgoreans on sensitive issues, give a platform for opposition opinion. Only then can we have glimpse of hope for full democratic society.

Poh Ah Pak SG

how come taiwanese raise price they can protest like fudge...

Singaporeans just seem to accept every price hike?

The reason is simple.

Political oppression.

And no, Singapore was not always like that. Go and read Singapore history in 50s and 60s.

There were protests and huge rallys.

It was after Lee Kuan Yew came to power, then he suppressed political activities.

So, older generation politically suppressed, younger generation depoliticised.

That is why today in Singapore, no one will go and join politics.

see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

likedatosocan SG

Well. Think about it. Singapore has law enforcement. Taiwan, I am not so sure.

Singapore government tax its people. So does Taiwan government.

The different is, Taiwanese people's money end up in corruption.

Singaporean tax money does not end up with corruption (if you're going to fight against this, I guess you want to fight against law. Singapore has law, and has no corruption. Yeh, if you get wat I mean :p).

Are you the new jester?

TW like many if not all countries have laws - but I am not saying the nature of the law.

TW ppl money end up in corruption, maybe.

In singapore, dulai was convicted of corruption . The donation money is people's money. For such heavy crime, he jailed 3 long long very long months.

ArtBoon SG

Maybe because we are busy working to pay for various expenses, mortgage, car loan. Also, unlike Taiwanese, we keep our month shut.

angel7030 SG

Maybe because we are busy working to pay for various expenses, mortgage, car loan. Also, unlike Taiwanese, we keep our month shut.

No, not true, we did not keep our mouth shut, in fact, we talks alot n alot on politics among ourselves at kopitiam, clubs, pubs, shopping centres, workplace, etc etc but infront of the govt, we dunno why become silent like a lamb

Poh Ah Pak SG

infront of the govt, we dunno why become silent like a lamb

Kill chicken scare monkey.

Hbbo SG

Eberi country got law enforcement my friend.

You sure? You been to Afghanistan or Somalia?

Poh Ah Pak SG

Eberi country got law enforcement my friend.

Corruption my friend.

actualization~ SG

as long as the govt continue to give stability and growth, no one will make noise ba~ its called " give and take" if our govt messed up like how the taiwanese did you see we behave like them anot lo~ cos they "giv and nothing to take"

Poh Ah Pak SG

as long as the govt continue to give stability and growth

Singapore first in asia to fall into recession.

Fantagf SG

its a dilemma really. While I want to have to right to have a protest, its gets frightening when you look at other nations and sometimes it gets out of hand. I actually believe protests should be contained in certain areas to avoid disturbing the peace.

Look at the latest protest in Taiwan, it was orderly with police around. Protest need not be chaotic or violent.

actualization~ SG

technically we hav yet to fall into any recession..

ask those econs major ma i think sg is still handling it well as compared to other asia country

Fantagf SG

rather then the citizen paying with every penny we earn

The govt in Taiwan unlike the Pay and Pay does not and will not use the money of the nation for investment.

Fantagf SG

Well. Think about it. Singapore has law enforcement. Taiwan, I am not so sure.

Singapore government tax its people. So does Taiwan government.

The different is, Taiwanese people's money end up in corruption.

How sure are you our tax money will not end up in corruption? Some govt can possibly be very smart and brilliant in corruption without leaving any trace.

Fantagf SG

At least in Taiwan govt take people's money they call it corruption

In SG leaders take people's money is called pay raise or to 'prevent corruption'

So which is worse morally? Taking People's money illegally or making it legal to take people's money? At least the taiwanese are legally armed to deal with injustices, in SG no one questions the government's actions as long as its made legal. The genius of our ministers is that they made it legal to take more money from us

In effect both sides are doing the same thing but one is called corruption and the other is to 'prevent corruption'

Such is the corruption of language when the government has unlimited power and has monopoly over the legal use of force

Our gahmen is all for earning the money of the people in every possible way. On top of this, they overpay themselves undeserved super high salary (new way of corruption???).

Fantagf SG

the taiwanese ppl has higher political awareness compare to Sgoreans. that is without a doubt.

TV station has to be unbiased, actively enageg the sgoreans on sensitive issues, give a platform for opposition opinion. Only then can we have glimpse of hope for full democratic society.

I absolutely agree with you. Taiwanese are more mature and aware politically. At least they bother to put in effort to know what is happening in the political scene and think analytically.

It is impossible to have media in sg check on the ruling party as long as the father and son and Pay and Pay exist. They are very kiasu and no confidence so must control the media.

Poh Ah Pak SG

Taiwanese are more mature and aware politically.

I have been saying this since last year.

It seems that my propaganda efforts is having some influence.

Fantagf SG

I have been saying this since last year.

It seems that my propaganda efforts is having some influence.

aCtually I notice this long ago just that no where to bring it up. Thank goodness now we can do it in forums.

People who are narrow minded and kiasi kiasu will not like it when others voice out their concerns, unhappiness, facts and reality about the ruling party. pardon me for saying that many people in Singapore simply choose not to be understanding and bothered.

angel7030 SG

aCtually I notice this long ago just that no where to bring it up. Thank goodness now we can do it in forums.

it is not singaporean simply choose not to bother, but all talks no action, we young ones see already also sian.

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