stay or leave

last SG · 2008-10-30T10:31:18+00:00

You run away WITH the food, correct ? Y U so stupid ? Because he stole the kangeroo food

redDUST SG

lol

he meant the bus going into malaysia/thailand.

skythewood SG

they pay the same tax as we do. but they have less liabilities.

they don't need to serve NS.

if their sons did not get PR status, their sons will also not have to serve NS despite having a heavily sponsored singapore education. he can go straight to singapore uni, without doing ns, and yet still enjoys the university subsidy.

Male PR and FTs do not have to serve NS, so they are more attractive to employers over singaporeans. employers generally do not like workers who get called up by mindef for long stupid exercises when there's so much work to be done.

PRs and FTs though they have to pay CPF contribution, they can withdraw it once they decided to go back to their country. for singaporeans, its a nono. the money stays there until ur 55, and then, u can only withdraw 50%, and again, that is, if you have met the minimum CPF contribution.

met any second generation pr that don't do NS?

all my foreigner friends in NUS have some form of subsidy. but in return, they have to work in singapore for a number of years.

redDUST SG

met any second generation pr that don't do NS?

all my foreigner friends in NUS have some form of subsidy. but in return, they have to work in singapore for a number of years.

this is a win-win situation. which filipino grad would want to graduate from nus/ntu and head back to metro manila for a US$500 job (if one is lucky) when you can get 3x of it here? and better prospect too.

the singapore gahmen realized this `lobang' long time already. having said that, it is not 100% enforced. in the last crisis, my NUS fren who is a civil engineer was ok'd to leave without fulfilling the 3 year requirement becos the civil engineering field here were depleted. he went back to malaysia and joined his father's firm which build roads for the gahmen. of cos, he was lucky in that sense.

Kuali Baba SG

Be honest with yourself: are you leaving because there are specific pull factors (a more developed sector for your job, for instance), or because you're running away from your perceived hardship here?

Emigration is never easy; if you want to escape from problems, you'll find new ones elsewhere to continue making your life miserable until you learn to be satisfied with what you have. You might be surprised by how people everywhere are unhappy with their own politicians and bureaucracy.

And contrary to your belief, Orientals are not despised by the majority. You don't need that imagined baggage to add to your woes.

Be aware of the hypocrisy of citing the arrival of FTs as a reason for moving out, because it makes you one of them too.

P.S. Speaking of Joe Strummer, I've met ex-Mescaleros drummer Luke Bullen.

Short Ninja SG

why ppl has the perception that migrating to another country will be second class leh?

i dont think many singaporeans who migrate to australia are being treated as second class citizens.

Like someonw mention, are you treated as first class citizens in singapore? or do you feel u r taken for a ride?

From my personal experience I can tell you that whoever migrate to another country would naturally be treated like a second class citizen whether you like it or not.However if you have money and move to a third world country,you would be treated a lot better than when you were a citizen in your own country.

Cram SG

Hallo deathmaster

"PRs and FTs though they have to pay CPF contribution, they can withdraw it once they decided to go back to their country"

FTs cannot participate in CPF. That privilege is reserved for citizens and PRs.

oldbreadstinks SG

But hell yea, most waiter/ess in SG are just those who judge people at face value..so can't really blame singaporeans for losing their jobs to foreigners, I've had a much more pleasant experience with waiter/ess who are foreign to the country.

have to agree with you, was in service line previously(retail)

ang moh usually spend more so we usually treat ang mo better. i'm chinese myself but when it comes to treatment i usually treat malay or ang moh better because they're usually more polite.

fishbuff1 SG

really? do share what kind of personal experience u would have that allow u to comment on this topic?

studying or working overseas?

Gedanken SG

Fish, if there's anybody on this forum I'd say has been round the block a few times, it would be Ninja.

angel7030 SG

i wont migrate becoz of thai massage is cheaper in thailand.

out of topic, i travel to thai for work monthly but never like thai massage. i prefer " TuiNa".

Heil Ratchadapisek!!

Hike Fuhrer,

I also go there once every 2 months to recruit comfort gals for singapore Uncles here. I dun go thai massage, cos i laugh and laugh due to the tickling hehehe...but i will do my shopping, facial, hairdo, wow! it is very cheap and top service too. Then at night , i will go to Barcadi boy boy club...wow! those thai hunks are real handsome...but no brain.

Hike Sol Nana!!!

angel7030 SG

Frankly, my dad also got properties in third world country, we use to go there for long term holiday,...well, yes, if u got money, u can be treated like kings and queens, but then there is lack of true bonding, wherever people treated you nice there, you know it is becos of money, very unreal, unlike your own country, at time, colleagues, friends or relatives dun mind to serve you naturally thru love and bonding.

angel7030 SG

I said I 'left' Singapore and Gedanken says I was 'right'

Simi centre? I left Funan Centre donkeys years ago>LOL

Sori lah, I thot u kenna left right and centre by Gedanken mah.

Mostwanted5125 SG

not true, in the sense that they have absolutely bad service attitude.

like once, i was told that at crystal jade, the wanton mee soup, my friend asked for more, the waitress say its herbal soup blablabla..and when an angmo asked..she very quickly got another bowl for him..

and having different standards for serving different customers is just plain descriminatory, aren't they supposed to serve every single customer well?and you'll never know when a rich man wears shorts and slippers out...

Well, ur fren could have only ordered a bowl of wanton mee. To discourage customers from getting free soup, the waitress could have been told to do so.

But the ang moh may have ordered dishes that sum up to hundred over dollars and it does not make sense to antagonise a customer who is willing to spend so much over a bowl of soup.

If the rich man in shorts and slippers is a scrooge and not willing to spend money, then I see no reason why the waitress should not give a lousier treatment to him

Mostwanted5125 SG

The Thai traditional massage, I used to go everyday until my body became so well massaged all my aches and pains disappeared (about S$10 for two hours.)

One Singapore chap said that in Bangkok, he never bathes himself... different girls bathe him everyday because they have bath houses there and it cost only about S$20.

Singaporeans in Singapore are just stupid to let the government take their money with direct and indirect taxes and take their money by making everything so expensive... (Thai traditional massage in Singapore, the cheapest is also around S$25 for about 1/2 hours)

All because when the despots persecute opposition and dissidents like Dr Chee Soon Juan, they pretend they dont see. Singaporeans pay for doing that, ignoring the evil. Singaporeans deserve it.

And this is the reason why Aids and prostitution are so prevalent in Thailand. Have u read on how severe child prostitution is in Thailand? Do u ever heard of that in Singapore?

FYI, a massage in the USA is much more costlier than in S pore.

If u earn as much as what an average Thai earn, I think u will kbkp more. At least, as an average sporean, we can make use of our currency advantage to live as king in Thailand or Malaysia once in a while. But can u afford to do that if u are an average Thai or Malaysian earning a lesser pay in their respective country?

U do not argue convincingly dear PK yap...

Mostwanted5125 SG

Wahh ur dad so rich ar??? Are u still single??? Can I.....?

haha Joking!

whiskers SG

Well, ur fren could have only ordered a bowl of wanton mee. To discourage customers from getting free soup, the waitress could have been told to do so.

But the ang moh may have ordered dishes that sum up to hundred over dollars and it does not make sense to antagonise a customer who is willing to spend so much over a bowl of soup.

If the rich man in shorts and slippers is a scrooge and not willing to spend money, then I see no reason why the waitress should not give a lousier treatment to him

Rich man does not dine crystal jade.

Mostwanted5125 SG

Rich man does not dine crystal jade.

They dine pasar malam!

DNPAP SG

I cannot agree that one is treated like a second class citizen in another country. Especially not in a country like Australia, have never felt that way.

However there been instances that I have been asked to go back to my own country, what I would tell them (if they happen to be Anglo-Saxon) is that

"Go and get back to the fucking boat where your ancestors came here as a fucking convict! You Fuck Wit. I came here as a free man, not some fucking criminal with chains"

And for the record, country people are very warm people, so much more than city folks. I love the Australian people not just the Ango-Saxon but all the people who lives by the Australian way.

angel7030 SG

I cannot agree that one is treated like a second class citizen in another country. Especially not in a country like Australia, have never felt that way.

However there been instances that I have been asked to go back to my own country, what I would tell them (if they happen to be Anglo-Saxon) is that

"Go and get back to the fucking boat where your ancestors came here as a fucking convict! You Fuck Wit. I came here as a free man, not some fucking criminal with chains"

And for the record, country people are very warm people, so much more than city folks. I love the Australian people not just the Ango-Saxon but all the people who lives by the Australian way.

I only love their kangeroo, koala bear bear and wobats, as for humans in australia, i dun give a damn how they treat me cos i dun hv to live downunder them.

noahnoah SG

I only love their kangeroo, koala bear bear and wobats, as for humans in australia, i dun give a damn how they treat me cos i dun hv to live downunder them.

then u got hug the kangeroo?

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