Muhammad Shafi'ie - Bravest soldier in Singapore

last SG · 2008-11-01T17:03:05+00:00

It should not be titled as bravest soldier. But as bravest peasent singaporean. Why? to say someone is a brave soldier, it meant that the someone have done c...

Poh Ah Pak SG

Compared to just protesting and getting yourself bankrupt while accomplishing nothing tangible at all, I am willing to bet on this idea.

Mass protest oust government has worked more times than your so called idea.

Chris88110 SG

Mass protest oust government has worked more times than your so called idea.

Yes but how many citizens are unhappy enough to do wat you suggest, Singaporeans maybe be complain kings but they're not stupid, no matter how you choose to think otherwise Mr PAP, people like you are the minority

teraexa SG

Mass protest oust government has worked more times than your so called idea.

Yep I can't disagree with that fact.

What I can disagree is that those were not accomplished in Singapore. Every circumstance is different and it will not be wise to draw correlations.

oldbreadstinks SG

Mass protest oust government has worked more times than your so called idea.

with massive damage. that is why business men with funds needed for political activism shun lunatics like SDP

say if a minority of 200,000 singaporeans claim to speak for the rest of us and use a mass protest disrupting the lives of the remaining 4 million++ who don't want a mass protest. is that correct?

the majority of us hate the PAP govt but want to carry on with our lives, we don't want involvement. a mass protest blocks roads, cause disruptions. disturbs lives who want to carry on peacefully

this fuck shit is why SDP will never work. they're like a guy who insists on punching a lawyer who would definately sue.

this is just like the kid who posted here years ago about tearing down PAP's "ancestral temples" to drag people into the new era whether they like it or not.

teraexa SG

with massive damage. that is why business men with funds needed for political activism shun lunatics like SDP

say if a minority of 200,000 singaporeans claim to speak for the rest of us and use a mass protest disrupting the lives of the remaining 4 million++ who don't want a mass protest. is that correct?

the majority of us hate the PAP govt but want to carry on with our lives, we don't want involvement. a mass protest blocks roads, cause disruptions. disturbs lives who want to carry on peacefully

this fuck shit is why SDP will never work. they're like a guy who insists on punching a lawyer who would definately sue.

Agree agree.

One point CSJ fails to realise that (and that's why I call him stupid) is that Singaporeans are fundamentally pragmatic. Mass protests that will only cause disruption are a definite no-no for them.

Doesn't it fail to strike Mr PAP and Mr PKYAP that the SDP was more popular under Chiam See Tong than under CSJ?

Poh Ah Pak SG

this fuck shit is why SDP will never work.

But PAP allow protest in speaker's corner.

I regard that as a small victory for SDP.

teraexa SG

But PAP allow protest in speaker's corner.

I regard that as a small victory for SDP.

I WILL NOT attribute that to the SDP.

Let's see, not only SDP have called for it, so has the WP, SDA and many other NGOs incl. the blogosphere.

Don't be too quick to attribute such gains to the SDP.

It's really foolish to attribute every victory to one particular party.

Poh Ah Pak SG

Since SDP is most active opposition party, I regard that as SDP victory.

teraexa SG

Since SDP is most active opposition party, I regard that as SDP victory.

Stop being delusional.

The most active opposition party is the WP. There's no dispute about that.

And to be more crude, even the blogosphere has more clout than the SDP.

People don't bother giving 2 hoots about SDP.

Yep you may say that NTU student's union caused an uproar when SDP was chased out. I am pretty sure if it was WP, the uproar would have been much, much bigger.

SDP has ceased to be influential ever since CSJ decided going suicidal.

Poh Ah Pak SG

The most active opposition party is the WP. There's no dispute about that.

If that is what you think, I have nothing to say.

Yes, WP is now most active political opposition party.

teraexa SG

If that is what you think, I have nothing to say.

Yes, WP is now most active political opposition party.

Therefore don't be too quick to attribute such gains to SDP or WP.

Let's just regard it as a hard-earned victory. A small-step.

Poh Ah Pak SG

Yes.

Worker's Party is the most active opposition party we have in Singapore right now.

teraexa SG

Yes.

Worker's Party is the most active opposition party we have in Singapore right now.

There's no point being patronising.

You can have your views, I can have mine. I respect that.

Poh Ah Pak SG

Yes, I compared the activities of SDP and WP.

From this it is clear that WP is the most active opposition party right now.

That is completely clear.

skythewood SG

brave soldier?

wrong.

teraexa SG

brave soldier?

wrong.

Well, it's the usual SDP way of honorary decoration of anyone who fits their policy of antagonising politics.

Poh Ah Pak SG

brave soldier?

wrong.

Coward soldier?

teraexa SG

Coward soldier?

Neither brave nor coward.

It's just normal.

SDP need to save on their hyperboles.

Poh Ah Pak SG

It's just normal.

If soldiers oppose PAP is normal, we won't be having discussion now.

skythewood SG

when i see the word "bravest", i was thinking that this guy stare at death in the face and completed his mission in the line of fire, and inspired his fellow soldier with his brave feats above and beyond the call of duty.

and since he is the bravest, he does that more than any other guy in the SAF,

than i see what he did is join a protest.

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