Lee Bee Wah - the cock-up MP

last SG · 2008-08-25T12:59:27+00:00

but dear angie mei mei I am seated all the while..... I mean yr brother, not you

Rock^Star SG

A Lee firing a Lee? lol This incident somehow reminds me of those illogical women bosses having their periods.

Let's see...the story goes like this:

Gao Ning's coach, Zu Haining was with another player, Yang Zi because that player's coach (Chen Jian) had taken ill. Zu had thought after he had finished with Yang, he would go over to join Gao. Misfortune has it that Yang's match started 1 hour late and thereby leaving Gao with no coach for his match. Tragedy indeed. The other 2 coaches (including Head coach Liu Guodong), were tending to Li Jiawei and Feng Tianwei for another upcoming match.

So how now? Scapegoat search in the form of Antony Lee. But who can one really blame in this situation? Accountability is a must but a sacking? Surely unwarranted given that Antony Lee had put in so much effort facilitating the team. And Lee had to find out from a third party that his services were no longer required. Surely everyone in his shoes would have appreciated a closed door talk with Lee Bee Wah? And no consultation with table tennis officials whatsoever, just a meeting with the players. And when pressed for a reason why Antony Lee as sacked, she simply said "let's move on" and the decision was made even before the Olympics.

Even Head coach Liu's future hangs in the balance. It was him who scouted these talents. Wow, such kind treatment after all that toil and she has hardly even warmed her president's seat. A slap on the wrist and strong words of encouragement would have been better.

Granted that a coach would have been helpful in battle analysis but mind you, this was the FIRST round. Opponent was mediocre at best and Gao Ning was supposed to be the "Republic's top player". If Gao's loss was attributed to the absence of a coach and resultantly in Lee's sacking; way too harsh.

I hope LBW doesn't handle constituents in such high-handedness lol. Clown of AMK.

redDUST SG

Timing wrong?

If she hadn't voice out and stood up on behalf of the player, hell! I would have raised hell the next very day in the media!

What the heck do we contribute our funds for? For the coaches to live it up in China with those pretty functionaries instead of doing their job? It doesnt matter if we had lost the game, but we lost it because we left that poor guy to battle alone, and in Spore, no one battles anything alone for a good cause!

timing about going public.

unless one is a media-whore, things can be resolved privately. the public need not know (for now).

redDUST SG

A Lee firing a Lee? lol This incident somehow reminds me of those illogical women bosses having their periods.

Let's see...the story goes like this:

I hope LBW doesn't handle constituents in such high-handedness lol. Clown of AMK.

is that the sequence of event? what was reported was that the other 3 coaches were tendering to 2 women in their prep for the match. lee and fang weren't playing.

Rock^Star SG

is that the sequence of event? what was reported was that the other 3 coaches were tendering to 2 women in their prep for the match. lee and fang weren't playing.

duplicate..

Rock^Star SG

is that the sequence of event? what was reported was that the other 3 coaches were tendering to 2 women in their prep for the match. lee and fang weren't playing.

Yeh, according to ST, they were preparing for the q-final match. Not playing yet though.

redDUST SG

Yeh, according to ST, they were preparing for the q-final match. Not playing yet though.

henceforth, pulling one coach out to tend to our #1 isn't all too much to ask for.

Rock^Star SG

henceforth, pulling one coach out to tend to our #1 isn't all too much to ask for.

Then in that case, do u have any idea why Antony Lee and Liu didn't do that?

Since #1, what is a first round match compared to a q-final of Li/Feng?

redDUST SG

Then in that case, do u have any idea why Antony Lee and Liu didn't do that?

Since #1, what is a first round match compared to a q-final of Li/Feng?

oversight? forgotten that someone else is sick. i think the 2 gentlemen know exactly.

if it is essential that a coach accompany a player for a match, then nothing else can over-ride that, even if LJW is playing in the finals.

Rock^Star SG

oversight? forgotten that someone else is sick. i think the 2 gentlemen know exactly.

if it is essential that a coach accompany a player for a match, then nothing else can over-ride that, even if LJW is playing in the finals.

Speculation is as good as anyone's half-baked guess. LBW shd have discussed with Liu and Antony first instead of letting one know he is sacked and another that his fate hangs in the balance....both thru a 3rd party.

Accountability first and foremost but sacking in such a fashion and u second it?

charlize SG

It's an honest mistake.

Let's move on.

Oh wait, the people involved are not elites.

redDUST SG

Speculation is as good as anyone's half-baked guess. LBW shd have discussed with Liu and Antony first. Not letting one know he is sacked thru a 3rd party and another that his fate hangs in the balance.

Sacking in such a fashion and u second it?

it is how it is managed that is the question.

you and i do not know the ins and outs of this, so there is no point for us having a go at this.

if this warrants a sacking, then the timing is wrong. if this doesn't warrant a sacking, then lbw erred.

but neither cancel out the fact that gn deserves and expects a coach with him during his match up.

baby hunter SG

Yeh, according to ST, they were preparing for the q-final match. Not playing yet though.

precisely lor....

everythings oso according to ST.....all of us are not in the actual picture....

how can some ppl jus starting to pin point & criticize on Lee alone...(jus becos they dun like her? or dislike PAP?)

negated that the manager need to bare the responsible as well....(if according to ST, it shd hv 4 other coaches ard, y must 3 of them all attended to the woman player? whereby their game not even start yet) isnt it is arranging problem?

just put urself in Gao's position, dun tell u will nt emotional affected?

Rock^Star SG

it is how it is managed that is the question.

you and i do not know the ins and outs of this, so there is no point for us having a go at this.

if this warrants a sacking, then the timing is wrong. if this doesn't warrant a sacking, then lbw erred.

but neither cancel out the fact that gn deserves and expects a coach with him during his match up.

Nope, u said u support the decision. I can only agree with you on the timing.

Gao Ning deserves his coach but to lose a first round against a mediocre player and then result in Lee's sacking. I cannot agree. Moreover, no one knows the exact reason for a coach's absence in the match and Lee Bee Wah shd have consulted Lee and Liu before sacking one of them them...not sacking thru a 3rd party.

Even if u boss, u wana sack someone, u would apply due process, wouldn't u? I cannot agree with LBW's decision.

Rock^Star SG

precisely lor....

everythings oso according to ST.....all of us are not in the actual picture....

how can some ppl jus starting to pin point & criticize on Lee alone...(jus becos they dun like her? or dislike PAP?)

just put urself in Gao's position, dun tell u will nt emotional affected?

yeh why must 3 of them attend to the Li and Feng? I dun understand that part too. Since u said dun speculate in ur first few lines, why do so in ur second last line? lol

And Gao's emotional problem is none of my business here. This topic is about LBW, whether she did the right thing or not.

baby hunter SG

Nope, u said u support the decision. I can only agree with you on the timing.

Even if u boss, u wana sack someone, u would apply due process, wouldn't u? I cannot agree with LBW's decision.

how u kn he's being sack? according to ST?

how u kn AL only kn he was sack thru 3rd party? according to ST?

I oso kn "according to ST", he's nt sack, is contract end liao

Rock^Star SG

how u kn he's being sack? according to ST?

how u kn AL only kn he was sack thru 3rd party? according to ST?

I oso kn "according to ST", he's nt sack, is contract end liao

Nowhere in ST does it say his contract has ended. It's a sacking my dear.

And ST is as good as it gets for table tennis news here. If ST cannot be believed, why are u even here? :D

xtreyier SG

I hope LBW doesn't handle constituents in such high-handedness lol. Clown of AMK.

Mediocre at best, opponents???!! At the Olympics??? who are you kidding?!

And do get your facts right. Manager Lee was not sacked. His fate had already been decided before the games started.

This incident happened before thousands of audiences and CANNOT be hidden from view just because many of us were not there. How do you like to recieved a call, like me, from my malaysian friend who was there, laughing at us singaporeans that even the coach had given up on our #1 player by not daring to show his face during the match?!

Winning isnt everything. What matters is had we tried our best? But right before thousands of eyes, we didn't - a mockery of the use of our hard earned funds to promote the serious effort to get a medal. Losing is ok, but negligence is unforgivable. 5 coaches and they could not even spare one for analysis and support for a current match?

Ridiculous! Oughta crucify the guy responsible and hang him in public! But he whomever is responsible, should be grateful it was not me in charge, but MP Lee who stood up for the player, hid nothing, and showed her displeasure courageously on our citizen's behalf.

Let no one think even for a moment, for all the glory they can give, is indispensible in our equal society. We as a nation, work together as a team, had been this way since independence.

Rock^Star SG

Mediocre at best, opponents???!! At the Olympics??? who are you kidding?!

And do get your facts right. Manager Lee was not sacked. His fate had already been decided before the games started.

Let no one think even for a moment, for all the glory they can give, is indispensible in our equal society. We as a nation, work together as a team, had been this way since independence.

Yeh mediocrity is commonplace in the Olympics amongst the world's finest talents on show.

Get your facts right, I implore you :D. Antony's fate was not decided before the games as explained by LBW. That was just some lame excuse concocted to appease the mass outrage at her decision. You didn't catch that?

I agree with you the need for accountability but for Antony and Lee to know of their plight from a 3rd party and no discussion with them initiated by LBW before that......u second that? Not even discussion with table tennis offcials. U agree with that?

Rock^Star SG

...but MP Lee who stood up for the player, hid nothing, and showed her displeasure courageously on our citizen's behalf.

Showed her displeasure courageously on our citizens' behalf?

So why is she facing a mass public backlash? lol

More like cowardice for not telling Liu and Lee face to face her displeasure and then dismissing it as "decided to terminate services before Olympics" without ANY explanantion why.

Go figure :D

xtreyier SG

Showed her displeasure courageously on our citizens' behalf?

So why is she facing a mass public backlash? lol

More like cowardice for not telling Liu and Lee face to face her displeasure and then dismissing it as "decided to terminate services before Olympics" without ANY explanantion why.

Go figure :D

What 'mass public backlash' are you alluding to? A few disgruntled folks here and there in the media?

In truth, those who have a brain had already figured out. Move on, celebrate the medals, but sports officials who are negligent, no matter how good they are, won't be tolerated. The message had been sent. Loud and clear.

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