Ministry seeks residents' understanding on workers' dorm

last SG · 2008-09-10T00:12:06+00:00

oh No, bukit timah is very near bukit Batok, i remember last time my auntie told me her colleague got raped and killed at Bukit Batok park most probably by...

charlize SG

That's the Singapore style.

They make the decision, then they let you debate, discuss, protest etc.

But sorry, the decision has already been made.

Makes the people feel like they have a say in important matters concerning their lives.

Really.

mistyblue SG

That's the Singapore style.

They make the decision, then they let you debate, discuss, protest etc.

But sorry, the decision has already been made.

Makes the people feel like they have a say in important matters concerning their lives.

Really.

Yeah but its nice to watch the wayang and great acting ... more thrilling than media-corspe show.

Medicated Oil SG

I am wondering whether the french school that is situated beside the dorm is informed of their new neighbour.

I dun think the french would take the matter lightly.

The residents should include the french parents and teacher into the petition.

This will definitely resolve the issue.

Dun just be angry, work smart, ok ?

angel7030 SG

i think in future, singaporeans will live in the dormitory and the foreigners will live in good HOUSING

reyes SG

for me, I am amazed that despite all the pleas and etc, the govt still went ahead.

all along, I heard that once words flow out, it means the govt has made a decision. All the talk talk are for show only. Seems it is right for this case.

only way is to vote them out..

it is always the case isnt it. when the information is out, it is decided dispite what the minister explaination that it is under consultation and consideration bull crap!

reyes SG

The french school will only raise their concern once the dormitory is built and face with real problems.

Quincey SG

Hey Reyes, thanks for your points.

When I mentioned sub-human, of course it does not mean that we literally categorize them as sub-human like what the Fascists did, rather, what I meant was that the attitudes towards foreigners especially the rhetoric exercised by some forumites earlier in the thread was akin to seeing these foreign workers as sub-human. Yes, I admit, sub-human might be too strong a word, but I hope it represented my disgust with their views.

With regards to your second point, nope, I'm not criticizing the media. I'm was attempting to show that both locals and foreigners commit crimes, its just that foreigners are different, so when they commit crimes, people take notice and think that foreigners are the main cause of crime in our country and use that as ammunition for debates we have in this forum. That is why I said I would like to see the statistics of crimes committed per foreigner against that committed by locals to show that it is because of our fear and suspicion of difference which has magnified a crime committed by a foreigner, as compared to that by a local.

Hope I did clarify my points. :)

Quincey SG

Haha, yes Angel, I'm not exactly a pragmatist by any far stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't apologize for my ideals.

I guess what I can say is that, irregardless of all our differing world views, one thing we all concur is that the state of things as they are - really suck!

Singaporeans definitely deserve better! But I just hope that on our path to seeking that betterment, we can better ourselves not just politically and economically, but in terms being more compassionate and humane in our perspective to things around us.

angel7030 SG

Haha, yes Angel, I'm not exactly a pragmatist by any far stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't apologize for my ideals.

I guess what I can say is that, irregardless of all our differing world views, one thing we all concur is that the state of things as they are - really suck!

Yes, i agreed, we all got different opinons, no thumb prints are the same, different school of thought etc etc can be a hinder in any debate or discussion.

I let to paint the picture of you as an owner, bring in a guest workers to help your progress in your business and wealth, u provide lodging for him, ensure that he is comfortable with all basic needs. But you must also ensure that he is socially acceptable. Therefore you need to give basic training and instill discipline in him so as to help him accustomed or be accepted in our society.

We dun look down on him, he works with his hands to earn a living, he save for his family, he is a responsible person, but we cannot put him in equal footing as us. Their objectives is to make money and leave us for the betterment of his hometown, no loyality nor attachment to any of our national pride and achievement.

You can go to any nation in this world, and believe me, we treated foreigner workers the best, but of course their are some bad eggs contractors who wanted to conn them.

reyes SG

What the press print in the paper is actual crimes that had already committed, not to mention how many go unnotice.

Yes you are right, local do commit crimes, such as maids basher. But they are singaporeans, they are part of society and whether we like it or not, they have the right to be here. The foreigners while contributing to our growth are at the sametimes increasing our crime rate and dis-stablising our social norms. While not FW will commit a crime but a 1-2% of them is enough to create havoc in society.

the greater point is we should reduce our reliance on FW. it has to be start from the govt, by reducing the nos of FW, it will better create job opportunity for locals. Not the opposite way.

16/f/lonely SG

How many of you actually interact with this group of people? Especially those in the blue-collar group, which is one of the most maligned?

mistyblue SG

i think in future, singaporeans will live in the dormitory and the foreigners will live in good HOUSING

Next time Singaporeans will be working as maids and construction workers in these developing countries

reyes SG

Next time Singaporeans will be working as maids and construction workers in these developing countries

according to LKY, that day will come if opposition party win election.

angel7030 SG

Next time Singaporeans will be working as maids and construction workers in these developing countries

We are doing it, some of our workforce are working in China and India now, and if too many of us go over there, they will built dormitory for us too, then the indian and chinese will start to complain to their govt about our kiasee, kiasu and stuck up attitude that they do not wish to let us built our dormitory near their houses, cos our laksa flavour stink

angel7030 SG

according to LKY, that day will come if opposition party win election.

not the day he pass away ar??

frustoporean SG

I like mabo tan's attitude. Despite all the protests and headlines, simply ignore them and dump 1000s of workers next to their houses. Why worry when they will vote PAP again year after year after........and please cut this crap about discrimination and what not.....U are reading too much propaganda, i.e. the straits times.

jojobeach SG

Oh.. no.. it's the opposite.. if they build dorm for Singaporeans to stay.. their nearby property price will go up.

Because we are law abidding people.. we don't spit and litter their grounds like they do to their own land.

If we go.. the land will become pristine again.. it will become very clean and orderly...

Then we will build a good international school for Singaporean children.. and it will bring up the school ratings in that area.

Then their local will want to come live near the Singaporean workers dorm. The neighbourhood will become very desirable....

That is the difference my dear.

Quincey SG

Well, not necessary that demographic goes PAP. Remember the last election, The Straits Times reported that votes in the Jalan Kayu sub connstituency in Ang Mo Kio GRC were lower compared to the other sub constituencies, if it wasn't for the other sub-constituencies, you might have one of the WP newbies sitting in Parliament as well, if Jalan Kayu was a single seat instead of a sub constituency in a GRC.

And does anyone actually remember why people in Seletar Hills/Jalan Kayu voted the way they did? Well, they were unhappy their market got torn down. So don't bet that people in Serangoon Gardens, people from similar demographics, would not do the same, don't bet against it.

http://wpsgnews.blogspot.com/2007/05/straits-times-one-year-after-vote.html

parn SG

Sad thing is the people relied and placed their focus too heavily on the government that they have forgotten to focus on themselves.

So does having a change of government produces better citizens?

People are never satisfied with what they are enjoying, especially when their comfortable lifestyle is created by the existing government.

For people who failed to look at themselves as a citizen of a country, certainly do not have the rights to complain when they have been spoon-fed, grew up in a country of peace, living comfortably.

Ungrateful citizens have just been upgraded to Shameless citizens in my opinion.

Some people are just easily satisfied with themselves or simply not capable of expressing appreciation.

jojobeach SG

Sad thing is the people relied and placed their focus too heavily on the government that they have forgotten to focus on themselves.

So does having a change of government produces better citizens?

People are never satisfied with what they are enjoying, especially when their comfortable lifestyle is created by the existing government.

For people who failed to look at themselves as a citizen of a country, certainly do not have the rights to complain when they have been spoon-fed, grew up in a country of peace, living comfortably.

Ungrateful citizens have just been upgraded to Shameless citizens in my opinion.

Some people are just easily satisfied with themselves or simply not capable of expressing appreciation.

LOL.. you're really refering to the million lollar ministers, no ?

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