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harrymushroom SG

Hey how true i never thought of that before... Hmmm the end result for the current system in future will be a bias for the rich to get richer!! and the poor to remain stagnant.. Nice observation

i hope this medium of information acts as an encouragement to push u to research more into things that u don't know..and not take in information as it is from the web...

a good start would be an economics textbook..or ebook if u love the internet too much..~

sometimes it's more than what u see here..u don't see people talk about the efforts that the government has put into widening alternative routes that doesn't have ERP...u don't get to read why COE was implemented back many many years ago..u don't get to understand how is a country being measured and what are the factors and limitations to consider about..and in the future..these things are very important when u wan to hold a decent upright conversation in front of important people..or even in front of ur gf..and also bring up ur children with the right values in life..it's not about teaching them to love Singapore...it's about teaching them to see the right values in life...and u too will start appreciating things around u when u learn more and more into the deeper meanings...

eagle SG

hie eagle..after reading what u have wrote..i understand the different frequencies that we're in and y it's that way..pls don't mislead the readers of this forum...like in a test..we are to look at same variables..the big question here is how is a country's performance measured?let mi ask u..if u have a company..how is ur company's performance measured...?by the pay of the directors..?if the pay of the directors do not increase means the company has not moved upwards..?when do u increase the directors pay then..?when one of the director's pay increase...?or when the company expands and earns more revenue..?

so how is a country's performance measured..?GDP?GDP per capita?citizens earnings..?the answer is by a measure of GDP...the view that u're looking at is one of the limitations of measuring the country's performance by GDP. GDP is the total of all our expenditures, plus investments we made, the government spending, our exports and imports...all added together..this is done to give a more accurate gauge of the country's performance..the rise and fall of all citizens pay will affect the GDP and thus the measure of performance in a country..so it's not juz pegging on the high earners or low earners..

think about it...y is the country's performance not juz calculating the low earners..?let's say u and mi..we go into the workforce and don't care about our job...and it's all the higher earners that's working to move the country...the country has advance..but u and mi have not..has the country's performance improved..?the world does not revolve around mi and u...it's the whole country altogether..despite our laziness to work...the country will still move..so a collective of the whole country's effort is used..plus the people who's leading us does have his salary peg on ours...that's our supervisor and managers..they lead us directly..if we have a lousy supervisor..the minister gets the blame..?or every man for his own actions..?

so..for ur suggestion..the average earnings of all Singaporeans and all performance indicators of this country has been taken into consideration. Including yours and mine...

Maybe u can do the math on the GDP and include the information from there too..?

so..for ur suggestion..the average earnings of all Singaporeans and all performance indicators of this country has been taken into consideration. Including yours and mine..

Has it?

The govt has said that the earnings of the ministers are pegged to the top earners (I think top 8 earners) in the country, and not the country's performance indicators which include average earnings of all Singaporeans. Pardon me, but I do need to know when they changed it.

harrymushroom SG

Has it?

and if the GDP didn't increase and no growth at all..nothing happened in Singapore...do u think the minister would be in a good position for the pay rise..~?Singapore is one of the few countries in the world that has enjoyed pretty good growth through many many years despite economic downturns etc..and we're still improving..improves in lifestyles and rise in pay..is it not enough for u..or isit that u're the one not getting any pay rise at all..?

if the whole economy was going down down down..and the whole Singapore market is crashing..do u think these top earners will not be affected..?

plus it's not like the government is not doing its part to help those that realli realli can't cope..if the government juz keeps helping those that can't cope...i'll leave the possible consequences for u to ponder about...

whether or not someone wans to climb out of the poor state that he or she is in depends very much on oneself..onli u can help urself isn't it..~?

even if the government is experiencing a problem..they do need time to resolve it...can u solve problem immediately when u meet them..?a million-lives problem...?

"10 men don't make superman, 10 men makes a team"

eagle SG

if the whole economy was going down down down..and the whole Singapore market is crashing..do u think these top earners will not be affected..?

whether or not someone wans to climb out of the poor state that he or she is in depends very much on oneself..onli u can help urself isn't it..~?

even if the government is experiencing a problem..they do need time to resolve it...can u solve problem immediately when u meet them..?a million-lives problem...?

"10 men don't make superman, 10 men makes a team"

still different frequency... it's not about GDP growth, it's not about whether the govt is doing its part to help, it's not about whether someone wants to climb out of the poor state, it's not about whether the government is experiencing a problem; all not related to what I meant...

argh... nvm... forget it.

Rock^Star SG

Of cos, harrymushroom, I get ur point ie. Singapore is basically run like a corporation and must continue to be like one. That is a sch of thought but not one that is necessary in tandem with the average sgporean.

I for one, disagree. I'm positively and definitely sure that many others too.

There are reasons why a recent survey says 60% of sgporeans wanna migrate and why we fare so low in the world happiness index.

yamizi SG

There are reasons why a recent survey says 60% of sgporeans wanna migrate and why we fare so low in the world happiness index.

'cos there are not substantial reasons to stay and be happy?

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