1st world country, 3rd world situation, Uniquely Singapore

last SG · 2008-07-19T17:15:21+00:00

Don't forget based on the last ERECTION result 66.6 % of SIngapore is happy with the garment.So I would really be shocked if the PAP keeps coming back strong...

lionnoisy SG

I think i get closer to the truths.

215 Oz citizens PERMANENT DEPARTURES per 100,000 Oz citizens!!

Compare with Singapore 1000 per 3.3 million citizens

ie 30 citizens per 100,000 citizens!!

Lets see the population composition.

http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/ABSNavigation/prenav/ProductSelect?newproducttype=QuickStats&btnSelectProduct=View+QuickStats+%3E&collection=Census&period=2006&areacode=0&geography=&method=&productlabel=&producttype=&topic=&navmapdisplayed=true&javascript=true&breadcrumb=LP&topholder=0&leftholder=0&currentaction=201&action=401&textversion=false

SELECTED CHARACTERISTICS...................... Australia.2006 Census....% of total persons

Australian citizenship.............................17,095,569......86.1%

Persons born overseas...........................4,416,037.......22.2%

Overseas visitors (excluded from.

all other classifications)............................,,206,358.........1%

Total population......................................19,855,288--

Most people counted in the 2006 Census were Australian citizens (86%). Although the proportion of the population who are citizens decreased slightly, the number of citizens increased by about 535,000 between 2001 and 2006 .

How many Oz citizens left in 2006/07?

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/featurearticlesbyCatalogue/A70FF8840DB7515ECA25741700118F47?OpenDocument

If u take the overall 72,100 PERMANENT DEPARTURES

from Oz !!That is 350 per 100,000 for overall population of 19.9 million.

Among them Oz-born and overseas born share almost the half.

In 2006-07, there were 36,800 Australia-born residents (including Australia-born children whose parents were former settlers) who permanently departed Australia.

So,i assume 36,800 are Oz citizens.In fact ,i think oz citizens

should be much more than 36,800.We divide by 17,095,569.citizens,

ie 215 Oz citizens PERMANENT DEPARTURES per 100,000 Oz citizens!!

Compare with Singapore 1000 per 3.3 million citizens

ie 30 citizens per 100,000 citizens!!

lionnoisy SG

5.3 PERMANENT DEPARTURES, Australia - Country of birth

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/featurearticlesbyCatalogue/A70FF8840DB7515ECA25741700118F47?OpenDocument

Many of u eager migrate to oz.No problem to all of us here.

But can u tell me why some still left oz?

5.1 PERMANENT ARRIVALS AND PERMANENT DEPARTURES, Australia

Arrivals more than departures.

timidtigress SG

err, pardon my ignorance, what welfares do we (singaporeans) have?

angel7030 SG

err, pardon my ignorance, what welfares do we (singaporeans) have?

free casket, sponsor by Singapore Casket Pte Ltd.

jojobeach SG

Lion Noisy ,

Sooooo.. can you also tell us hor.. these Australians migrate to which country ah ?

eagle SG

Lion Noisy ,

Sooooo.. can you also tell us hor.. these Australians migrate to which country ah ?

wah u so free to read his wall of text ah....

jojobeach SG

wah u so free to read his wall of text ah....

you no no how to use speed reading skill meh ?

will4 SG

Lion Noisy ,

Sooooo.. can you also tell us hor.. these Australians migrate to which country ah ?

I read in a local paper in which a local said some of the foreigner took local citizenship in order to migrate to other countries cause local passport is like

gateway to other countries. Is it easy to get US citizenship if u got local passport?

eagle SG

you no no how to use speed reading skill meh ?

still need the time right?

me can't be bothered to spend the time to do so on the wall

jojobeach SG

I read in a local paper in which a local said some of the foreigner took local citizenship in order to migrate to other countries cause local passport is like

gateway to other countries. Is it easy to get US citizenship if u got local passport?

Yes, correct lah.

Visa and immigration policies are reciprocal.

Singapore has very good connections with many countries. That is why Singapore passport holders no need visa to visit many countries.

China/India another other 3rd worlds have many illegals immigrant in USA.

Have you ever heard of Singaporean Illegal Immigrant in USA ? Nope.

Because we are law abiding citizens, others are taking advantage of what good faith we have established lor.

SPLIT SECOND SG

O think this whole saga regarding the departure and arrivals does not tell us anything significant.

Some aus citizens leave for a myriad of reasons and its not stated where they left for. OZ citizens leave and one of the reasons is taxation which may be lower in other countries. I know some of them reside in Asian countries. But none of them choose singapore. But those immmigrating from sngapore is a diferent scenario altogheter

Here the reasons:

1) Higher pay and higher quality of life

2) Assurance of social welfare and security

3) Freedom or democracy

The reason whyits 1000 per 3.3 million population sis that many of them are stuck in singapore due to financial reasons or lack of skills or ducation suc as a degree. due to getting permanent residency in their destination country. I have no doubt the figure will be much higher if they only had the financial means and the skills

SPLIT SECOND SG

But believe me, Aus is a much better place than Singapore. It may be because their own citizens leaving may not realise this.Taken for granted.

lionnoisy SG

O think this whole saga regarding the departure and arrivals does not tell us anything significant.

Here the reasons:

1) Higher pay and higher quality of life

2) Assurance of social welfare and security

3) Freedom or democracy

To be honest,last year 17,000 applied for Certificate of No Criminal Records

in from SG police.The figure include SG citizen,PR and foreigners.

70% said the paper needed for migrations.

u have reason to think actual no. of citizens leaving SG is higher.

But how many really want to give up the Red Passport is another issue.

financial reasons or lack of skills or ducation suc as a degree.

U may be right,but too simple.

SPLIT SECOND SG

To be honest,last year 17,000 applied for Certificate of No Criminal Records

in from SG police.The figure include SG citizen,PR and foreigners.

70% said the paper needed for migrations.

u have reason to think actual no. of citizens leaving SG is higher.

But how many really want to give up the Red Passport is another issue.

U may be right,but too simple.

the figure stated 1000 successfully left. But not the figures for those who want to leave. I am sure, as u stated 17 , 000 are wanting to leave.

BUT FINACIAL REASON DUE TO LOW PAY, LACK OF ANY REAL ASSET is the reason why many are still stuck. A recent survey conducted shows that 50 % of singapore's youth wanting to leave.

But in AUS, many citizens have the real skills and expereince to leave for their destination countries as life here is not controlled and repressed in terms of education, training, work force ect.

I know many Aus youths 21 years old in age are already stire or retail managers, comparing to our sg youth who at 21 still in Poly or serving NS.

It is all these cumulative reasons as to why many are still stuck here. You may be right, its not simple, but complicated.

maurizio13 SG

To be honest,last year 17,000 applied for Certificate of No Criminal Records

in from SG police.The figure include SG citizen,PR and foreigners.

70% said the paper needed for migrations.

u have reason to think actual no. of citizens leaving SG is higher.

But how many really want to give up the Red Passport is another issue.

U may be right,but too simple.

One factor that affects the eligibility of citizens for migration is educational level. A developed country assesses the suitability of candidates based on educational level, the higher the educational level, the more likely you would be granted citizenship. Another factor could be the amount of wealth that you can bring into their country.

There could also be other social factors that precludes Asians from migrating to more westernised societies.

Australia's above Bachelor Degree graduates was 22.7% for 2006, while Singapore's was 13.5% for 2005. There is no question that Australia has more qualified candidates for immigration. Not many people in Singapore qualify for immigration to developed countries.

There is little doubt that "lionnoisy" could ever satisfy the criteria for immigration status in Australia, hence the vindictiveness of his attitude towards Australia.

One thing's for sure, I am just glad I don't live next door to "lionnoisy", for if I were to better him in any aspects, he would start criticising me and my family in front of our neighbours.

A competent and self-confident person is incapable of jealousy in anything. Jealousy is invariably a sympton of neurotic insecurity. -- Robert A. Heinlein

SPLIT SECOND SG

There could also be other social factors that precludes Asians from migrating to more westernised societies.

There is little doubt that "lionnoisy" could ever satisfy the criteria for immigration status in Australia, hence the vindictiveness of his attitude towards Australia.

One thing's for sure, I am just glad I don't live next door to "lionnoisy", for if I were to better him in any aspects, he would start criticising me and my family in front of our neighbours.

A competent and self-confident person is incapable of jealousy in anything. Jealousy is invariably a sympton of neurotic insecurity. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Cant really compare, Australia has 3 times more population than Singapore. But singapore has an impressive record for that, almost half of Australia's above degree population for the same ratio per population.

maurizio13 SG

I thought both articles provided percentage terms?

SPLIT SECOND SG

yes, but u cant compare since population is different.

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