Sydney is very pricey & no public house,a SG just found out

last SG · 2008-07-29T18:11:12+00:00

I think the above report is a bit different from wat I observe. People r still trying to find HDB flats rather than private housing because the price is much...

will4 SG

I read in article Melbourne n Sydney are beautiful cities to live in.

Fantagf SG

You can claim the average singaporeans is living below poverty level if you want because there is absolutely nothing to gain from reading what you post in this forum.

If you ask me to rate your credibility from the scale of 0 to 10, i will give your a minus 10.

At least maurizio does not escape or evade. He is responsible to answer questions unlike someone.

O o O o SG

At least maurizio does not escape or evade. He is responsible to answer questions unlike someone.

I would like to know who is that someone you are talking about and can you tell us why you claim that he is escaping or evading?

Maurizio should be BANNED from this forum for constantly and intentionally sprouting nonsense and distorted information about the government and their ability.

Here is an example of what is said

On the other hand if ST Telemedia had bought the SGX Index (or stocks composite of the SGX Index), which was trading at SGD 1.22 on 2 Jan 2003. It would have increased to SGD 7.71 on 9 Jun 2008.

The annualised return for SGX Index is, 39.82% per year. The returns on the SGX Index more than doubled the returns on the Indosat acquisition.

So was it an impressive investment compared to another investment?

***SGX Index= Stock Exchange of Singapore Index (It's a composition of selected blue chip stocks in the SGX)

The Singapore Stock Exchange Index had a growth of 39.82%, while Indosat grew by 15.86%.

Can you tell me what is wrong with the above statement? To you, does he look as if he has a clue about what he is saying or is he simply sprouting rubbish?

Fantagf SG

I would like to know who is that someone you are talking about and can you tell us why you claim that he is escaping or evading?

Maurizio should be BANNED from this forum for constantly and intentionally sprouting nonsense and distorted information about the government and their ability.

Here is an example of what is said

Can you tell me what is wrong with the above statement? To you, does he look as if he has a clue about what he is saying or is he simply sprouting rubbish?

Yawn. I am sure you do not want to be embarassed.

eagle SG

At least maurizio does not escape or evade. He is responsible to answer questions unlike someone.

M13 does not repeat and repeat questions like an autistic kid.

O o O SG

Fireice just banned my account and I think the reason is because she need to protect the interest of M13 and Eagle and she doesnt like me to expose their nonsense and stupidity in this forum.

O o O SG

M13 does not repeat and repeat questions like an autistic kid.

Eagle, did you ask your MAMA FIREICE to ban me because I know your name is TAN JUNWEI?

lionnoisy SG

Thanks for hot responses in Oz,especially those put in

facts and figures to show Oz is more favourable.

U know i like facts and figures,no empty words.

While there are many going to settle down in Oz,

officail 2001/02 figure show some 50,000 leaving for good

from Oz.WHY?The figure,in %,is 6 times higher than

SG of 1,000 leave in a year.

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Pl dunt take the view that moon looks better in other country.

When u have difficulty here,u will assume u will find a heaven in

other countries.But how true is the info?

Dunt trust me neither?

i strongly suggest u guys stay in your dream country at least

2 weeks and travel to poor locations or similiar class

of location u can afford to live.Better stay in that location for

few nights to experience the real taste of lifes there.

Read various newspaper ,at least online,for 6 months DAILY

to know the place better.Then u decide.Dunt just listen.

U have to walk in the field to feel and find the truths,

the general whole picture.

I am labelled as anti--Oz,to be honest with u.

U have to interpret the following info.

In any country,people come and go.It is normal.

SG claims about 1,000 pple migrate.Every migrant

need Certificate of No Criminal Records,right?

There are many go to Oz,but many leave too.Why?

u can tell me Oz is a heaven,so many migrating there.I agree.

But offical records show many leaving too.

If u calculate the %,Oz outgoing population is higher than SG.

Oz population is about 6 times of SG.1000 x 6 is 6000.

But there are some 50,000 leaving in 2001/2002.

The oversea born and born locally share almost equal half.

I dunt know joining Oz a year.

Why do they leaving?Check it out ,mate!!

http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/RN/2003-04/04rn54.htm

The info is out dated.Pl get the updated info n share here.

Australia is commonly categorised as a country of immigration, but it has also become a country of significant emigration.

(lion note:I think this refer to citizens and PR there.Pl check it out)

But at the end of the day, U ARE THE DECISION MAKER,together

WITH YOUR SPOUSE OR PARTNERS.But not friends or relatives,

or forumers here they decide for u.

lionnoisy SG

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P1-134309448.html

In 2006/07,180,000 in.

70,000 out!! Why 70,000 out?

AAP General News (Australia)

01-31-2007

Fed: Record number of Australians leaving Australia permanently

A government report shows more people left Australia permanently in 2005-06 than ever before.

The report POPULATION FLOWS: IMMIGRATION ASPECTS DOCUMENT .. shows almost 180 thousand people permanently settled in Australia in 2005-06 .. but almost 70 thousand people permanently left the country.

People born in Aus...

will4 SG

Sources from ST said there were 150000 local migrated to other countries. In contrast, how come there is no update on the no of locals migrating to other countries

each year?

lionnoisy SG

Australian leaving Australia is 11 times higher in % than SG!!

Singapore citizens leaving Permanently

1000/3,300,000=303 per 1 million citizen population of 3.3 million.Pl note SG total population 4.6 m, inclusive of 3.3 million of citizens ,300,000 PR and 1 million foreigners,ie neither citizen nor PR.

Australians leaving Australia

70,000/20,000,000=3,500 per 1 million of total population.I dunt know

the citizen population.The actual figure shall be higher than 3500

if only citizen population is used.Pl read this posting for sources.

Conclusion:Australian leaving Oz is 10.6 time higher than SG citizen leaving SG.

lionnoisy SG

dunt go to any where without doing reserach.

no body stop u go to your dream land.

For the sake of your family and yourself,can u read more

before u decide the place.I am not pulling u back.

Share with us or PM me first if u find any dream land.

i dunt want u have culture shock in oz.

Guns are very common in Oz,as in Americans!!

Research conducted for the Commonwealth in 1996 showed that 10 percent of Australians own a firearm. Sixteen percent of Australians live in a household where there is a firearm.

http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/agd.nsf/Page/Firearmsregulation_Frequentlyaskedquestions#15

so , make sure u are a good friend to your neighbour.

The chance of either one of them has a gun in their house

is one--third.

lionnoisy SG

Sources from ST said there were 150000 local migrated to other countries. In contrast, how come there is no update on the no of locals migrating to other countries

each year?

150,000 in a year?Hard to believe.

But any way.SG is a free country .U can leave any time without

put a money bill inside passport when u are clearing

ICA check point.Ask your maid then u know why.

Many go but many come.some FT 55,000 become PR.

About 13,000 in a year gave up their old citizenship and

sing Majulah Singapura!!

offical figure is 1000 gave up SG citizenship in a year.

how many migrated to other countries but keep SG citizenship?

No. of pple apply for Certificate of NO Criminal records can

show the no. of people will migrate.

valentinoo SG

so what if ppl wanna migrate? australians wanna explore other places too. big deal. nowadays if u stick to one country and dont explore, u are boring!

maurizio13 SG

So many FTs coming to Singapore, very soon it will be Chinapore.

Then we can paint the bottom of our flag red, paint red over the crescent moon, paint the stars yellow, then we will have a China flag.

We will no longer be singing Majulah Singapura, instead we will be singing 义勇军进行曲.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwDkWzK24ZE

redDUST SG

dunt go to any where without doing reserach.

no body stop u go to your dream land.

For the sake of your family and yourself,can u read more

before u decide the place.I am not pulling u back.

Share with us or PM me first if u find any dream land.

i dunt want u have culture shock in oz.

Guns are very common in Oz,as in Americans!!

http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/agd.nsf/Page/Firearmsregulation_Frequentlyaskedquestions#15

so , make sure u are a good friend to your neighbour.

The chance of either one of them has a gun in their house

is one--third.

great. now that you acknowledged that ppl r free to come and ppl are free to leave, i hope you put this matter to rest and focus on other things.

why are you making such a fuss if ppl want to suffer elsewhere or get shot in australia? if it is not your relatives, it is really none of your frigging business.

get a life.

maurizio13 SG

great. now that you acknowledged that ppl r free to come and ppl are free to leave, i hope you put this matter to rest and focus on other things.

why are you making such a fuss if ppl want to suffer elsewhere or get shot in australia? if it is not your relatives, it is really none of your frigging business.

get a life.

Sometimes folks have to make a distinction between living as a caged animal and a free animal.

rokprince SG

great. now that you acknowledged that ppl r free to come and ppl are free to leave, i hope you put this matter to rest and focus on other things.

why are you making such a fuss if ppl want to suffer elsewhere or get shot in australia? if it is not your relatives, it is really none of your frigging business.

get a life.

Correct! Anyway, i think only ah gong will migrate over there without even visiting the place or staying over there for awhile.

Even if there are information freely available on the internet, nothing beats realtime experience lor.

Ppl feel 'song', then migrate lor. Otherwise, Dont. Simple right?

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

great. now that you acknowledged that ppl r free to come and ppl are free to leave, i hope you put this matter to rest and focus on other things.

Well in his world, people are "free" to come and leave, just that:

leaving other nations= nation is bad and lously

leaving singapore= the leavers are stupid

leaving singapore to go to other nations= leavers are downright stupid, nation is extremely lously, quote 3000 media articles out of context to "prove" point.

leaving other nations to come to singapore= singapore boleh, ignores larger social issues raised by such immigration.

A simplistic, shallow but not surprising method of argument that we see from lionnoisy.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

And of course, lionnoisy totally leaves out issues like how the "attractiveness" of Singapore to FT, such as stability and the like is actually borne out in a large part by the citizen population who have to do things like serve NS and pay the bill for certain packages that make Singapore attractive to FT.

Even if those "13,000" stay, do you think they are content to move down to the level of the common citizen and foot the bill for other FTs? Or will they simply move on when the best of the fruit are gone?

Basically put, even our government is not as silly as lionnoisy to believe in our own hype. As our own government has stated that importing people is NOT a long term solution to our demographic issues. Creating a Singaporean people and nation is more then just getting people to get a pink IC.

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