Sgdiehard,
Since you say I have misquoted you I will just reproduce your
own posts (within brackets) in full to show whether I have
paraphrased (shown in underlined) your remarks correctly as
saying you have admitted or asserted directly or indirectly the
government will use its power as it likes to deal with dissent,
control the media and sue oppositions in the course of
electioneering or now it is using cyber-agents to intimidate
forumers in the internet for exposing wrongfulness of the
government.
(Is PAP having an unfair advantage
over all of us? Yes, very much so. It is a fact of life.
)
(meaning the government can do as it
likes to exploit the so-called unfair advantage over
all?)
(Even if they are not the
government, PAP itself is a big organization with money and
ability. If anybody think of taking on any big organization, a rich
man, a lawyer (if you are not), then they have to know that these
big organization, with big money, big knowledge…are unfair
advantages against you from the very beginning. You have to find
out how to tackle them.)
(meaning the rich and power can bully
the weaker ones?)
(Go to the most democratic country
in the world, the US. When you face the immigration officer and the
custom officer, you will know that in the name of counter
terrorism, they can subject you to any kind of searches and checks
and fine. And if you are a Punjabi, or wear moustache, good luck.
They are not our government, but I travel there with a passport
that the US government recognizes, why should we be subjected to
all these kind of harassment, all in the name of national security?
Isn’t that what you hear in Singapore, all in the name of national
stability?)
(Selective comparison again to avoid
or deny problems ?)
(There are many other examples.
What you see, is that the Singaporeans, when faced with these
angmoh, lan lan. but in Singapore, they would curse and swear at
PAP.)
(Selective comparison with worse case
scenarios elsewhere to avoid or deny problems?)
(Don’t expect equal and level
playing ground. When LKY was fighting against the colonial
government, the Malaysian government, he did not have a level
playing ground. Do you think Anwar has a level playing ground now?
LKY had to have people like Goh KW, Toh CC, Rajaratnam…just to name
a few. It may be difficult to find good people
to join politics, is it because they prefer easy life making money?
Or many of them already join PAP? And if you form an opposition
with people like drawer, Fantagf, leeky, AndrewPKYap…and ask for a
level playing ground, then the PAP will have to go underground, may
be that is why they are wishing for the death of LKY and
all…)
(Past success does not guarantee
problems solutions for future? Occupying political office without
new solutions is a great opportunity cost to the
country)
(Does PAP have the right to answer?
Well I don’t want to speak for PAP, but I think everybody has the
right to answer! No? It is from the answer that the audience get
both sides of the story. Don’t doubt the intelligence of the
people, we know what to think. The difference is some will accept
some will not.)
(If PAP only has mandate to rule with
reasons not to serve its own selfish agendas or deny problems with
selective comparisons or hypocrisy)
(As for people like Deerhunter, you
better wish they are more like him to speak for the PAP, then the
votes would swing to the opposition. Hahaha….know why the PAP have
been winning? Too much vulgarities and name callings from some
opposition. The real opposition are people like Low, Sylvia,
Chiam…and some others. They can stand in the parliament and spoke
against the PAP, right at their nose, how to put the idea across,
how to use the right words, definitely no vulgarities…how many of
these opposition you had in mind that had this caliber? Chee SJ?
hmmm….)
(Excuses given to cover up wrongful
behavior or conduct of own camp? Selective praising of oppositions
to divide and rule)
(We were never born equal, and in
politics, it is worse….The Chinese says,
“胜者为王，败者为寇.”At the end of the day,
the百姓 are the one who truly suffer. If we
are already suffering, we don’t want our suffering to get
worse.
You have to prove to us what you
have, not what PAP is not giving you.)
(Re-confirming your earlier admission
the government is using its political power to bully the people who
are loyal citizens giving their views to benefit all in nation
building for the next era)
robertteh,
don't twist my words to suit your agenda,
(Is PAP
having an unfair advantage over all of us? Yes, very much so. It is
a fact of life. )
(meaning the government can do as it
likes to exploit the so-called unfair advantage over
all?)
This is not
included in the “words in my mouth”. But I have no disagreement
with you on the understanding of my sentence.
(Even if
they are not the government, PAP itself is a big organization with
money and ability. If anybody think of taking on any big
organization, a rich man, a lawyer (if you are not), then they have
to know that these big organization, with big money, big
knowledge…are unfair advantages against you from the very
beginning. You have to find out how to tackle
them.)
(meaning the rich and power can bully
the weaker ones?)
Again, this is not taken from my
post on “putting words in my mouth”. And what I said about the
unequal distribution of wealth and power is a fact in life, isn’t
it? But can the rich and power then BULLY the weaker ones? And will
the rich and power then BULLY the weaker ones? The answer is not a
definite yes, because there are other factors involved. I know for
sure the common law protects the weak, especially the uneducated,
poor and old women. You one of them? You interpreted my statement
to your advantage, or should I say twisted?
(Go to
the most democratic country in the world, the US. When you face the
immigration officer and the custom officer, you will know that in
the name of counter terrorism, they can subject you to any kind of
searches and checks and fine. And if you are a Punjabi, or wear
moustache, good luck. They are not our government, but I travel
there with a passport that the US government recognizes, why should
we be subjected to all these kind of harassment, all in the name of
national security? Isn’t that what you hear in Singapore, all in
the name of national stability?)
(Selective comparison again to avoid
or deny problems ?)
Is it selective or a fact of life
you chose to ignore because it doesn't support your
agenda?
(There
are many other examples. What you see, is that the Singaporeans,
when faced with these angmoh, lan lan. but in Singapore, they would
curse and swear at PAP.)
(Selective comparison with worse case
scenarios elsewhere to avoid or deny
problems?)
Worse case scenarios, but does it
exist? or again it is a clear and simple fact that you chose not to
admit?
(Don’t
expect equal and level playing ground. When LKY was fighting
against the colonial government, the Malaysian government, he did
not have a level playing ground. Do you think Anwar has a level
playing ground now? LKY had to have people like Goh KW, Toh CC,
Rajaratnam…just to name a few. It may be difficult to find
good people to join politics, is it because they prefer easy life
making money? Or many of them already join PAP? And if you form an
opposition with people like drawer, Fantagf, leeky, AndrewPKYap…and
ask for a level playing ground, then the PAP will have to go
underground, may be that is why they are wishing for the death of
LKY and all…)
(Past success does not guarantee
problems solutions for future? Occupying political office without
new solutions is a great opportunity cost to the
country)
No record of any success definitely
do not guarantee problems solution for future! No office and no
solutions is no position to even justify taking up any official and
country’s time.
(Does
PAP have the right to answer? Well I don’t want to speak for PAP,
but I think everybody has the right to answer! No? It is from the
answer that the audience get both sides of the story. Don’t doubt
the intelligence of the people, we know what to think. The
difference is some will accept some will not.)
(If PAP only has mandate to rule with
reasons not to serve its own selfish agendas or deny problems with
selective comparisons or hypocrisy)
There is no IF. The mandate is the
same. Take note of my last sentence, don’t just read what
you want to read.
(As for
people like Deerhunter, you better wish they are more like him to
speak for the PAP, then the votes would swing to the opposition.
Hahaha….know why the PAP have been winning? Too much vulgarities
and name callings from some opposition. The real opposition are
people like Low, Sylvia, Chiam…and some others. They can stand in
the parliament and spoke against the PAP, right at their nose, how
to put the idea across, how to use the right words, definitely no
vulgarities…how many of these opposition you had in mind that had
this caliber? Chee SJ? hmmm….)
(Excuses given to cover up wrongful
behavior or conduct of own camp? Selective praising of oppositions
to divide and rule)
Excuses? Own camp? Selective
praising…? Learn to accept others who are different from
you and get a real life!
(We were
never born equal, and in politics, it is worse….The Chinese says,
“胜者为王，败者为寇.”At the
end of the day, the百姓
are the one who truly suffer. If we
are already suffering, we don’t want our suffering to get
worse.
You have
to prove to us what you have, not what PAP is not giving
you.)
(Re-confirming your earlier admission
the government is using its political power to bully the people who
are loyal citizens giving their views to benefit all in nation
building for the next era)
I know what how the country is
built to what it is today. As a citizen of Singapore who makes the
difference between the political parties and country, and am a
loyal citizen of Singapore, I well come true views that benefit
Singapore. The views from many people like you, that the PAP should
fall, LKY and even his wife should die… are not accepted as
beneficial to anybody, less the few of you, in nation building for
the next era!
