Pl forgive me open a new thread.
This tell forumers the questions raised in the cross
exam.
SDP members wearing T shirt showing kangaroo head,a
Judge gown and a hammer.
tuesday 27.05.2008,They even waiting just outside court
room.
possibel cited for contempt of court?
A kangaroo court or kangaroo
trial, sometimes likened to a drumhead
court-martial or Drumhead trial, is a sham
legal proceeding or
court. Kangaroo courts are
judicial proceedings that deny due
process in the name of expediency. The outcome of such a trial
is essentially made in advance, usually for the purpose of
providing a conviction, either by going through the motions of
manipulated procedure or by allowing no defense at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court
Lucky,they are not allowed into court for no--collar.
what if Judge saw it?
See what topics that CSJ and CSC put to LKY.
It is not 100% word by word records.
The essence are here.
Pl bear in mind the purpose of this hearing is to
determine the damages ,if any,should be awarded to Lees.
Cross exam should be restricted to this purposes.
But Chees turned court room as stage of GE rally!!
i appeal
once agin to release the full transcript and video records
to
the public
.
Chees and Ravi just brought up many things to establish
that intergrity of Lees are not so high.
From NKF,HDB hidden building cost,bad hole like operations of
GIC and
Temasek,use of CPF money and people cant use the CPF,Mas
Selemat..
My
question is :Can Chees ask better questions within
the
frame of
the hearing ie allowed by Judge, and at the same
time,
Chees can
'shot'at Lees?
I dunt know if Jaya could come out with better questions
during the past 3 days hearing.What a waste for Opposition
Parties and people in SG!!We have lost a chance to watch
a better Defamation and the City drama!!
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1.SPH PUBLISH CSJ letter's,today p H15 Forum.3 column x 14
cm
Chee rebuts letter by ex-head of M'sian
TI
30.05.2008
2.Chee failed
Opposition and many Opposition--Singaporeans
He fought for many years to cross exam Lees.
But he was late in court,again ,on Day 2!LHL just had to wait
for him
in witness dock from 9.58 am.
The problems of Opposition in SG were and still are
they cant do a simple task like filling a right form in GE and
submit it
at the right place and at the right time.Like Gomez,just
forgot
to submit and accused low rank civil servants!!
How can i trust my future in CSJ when he could not arrive
on time for a important appointment?
3.What did CSJ ask LKY on Day 2,27 May 2008?
C=CSJ,O=CSC,K=LKY,S=Singh,J=Judge,R=Ravi
(inside this is my writing to explain)
It is not 100% word by word or
100% topics records.But the essence are here.
Pl dunt sue or shoot me if i am right or wrong.
i want u to see what topics Chees and Ravi asked LKY.
Then u can know why almost all questions disallowed by
Judge.
12.55 pm
R asked when K know the ''defamatory article'' ,why K started
the sue
close to GE and why K asked lawyer represent K!
Yes R called it ''defamatory article''.
R quoted S submission,claiming this case ''greatest
defamtion''.
K- lawyers use graphic words,...good lawyers' jobs,in his
previous
defamtion cases with Jayareratam,his QC quote Shakespeare.
R then quoted:''Never chase a lie..."and asked K opinions.
K explained,as u read from media,why he had to chased lies.
K used hands gesture to put across his points.
K- lies must be exposed
0105 pm
R asked why K not pursed the internet postings about K
k--current laws of cyberway inadequate,K mentioned Malaysia
NOW
web site
R--govamen prepare tolerate internet postings
K--those in print and with names will be followed up..
R--why k allowed internet postings
S--Lees not to sue others is irrelevant
k--laws cant capture in cyberway.If can capture,then purse.
R--do u hold CSJ in any esteem?sorry,i rephrase it.
do u consider he is a man to be believed?
k---he is liar ,cheat...a psycho bar after asking few
doctors.
O--asked John Tan shall be allowed sit after Chees to take
note.
Judge refused but later allowed .
R asked K about C credibility.
K---Is it C credibilty so low that i shall ignore him
totally?
R asked % of votes of SDP in Sembawang.20%.
R----only 20% believed what C said.
K---even 5 % voted,very important.
R--sensitive to unfair,critism,nail every life in court
K--K reminded R to ask relevant questions,only 2 hours.U are
wasting
the time of court.
R --if irrelevant ,court would stop.
R ---consider mediation
K--dunt believe psycho bar
R--suffer any damages of reputation?
K---80% vote my intergerity if poll carried out.
R---sue in personal capacity?(u can read from news)
K--may i suggest..
R----stop Mr Lee suggestion.Plantiff has no right to
suggest.
Judge ruled in favour of R.
R---abuse of legal system,Chees political alliance,cause against
gavaman,
R--stopped
K---u are run out of question.0126 pm.
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CSJ cross
exam Lee
from 0128 pm
C--we meet at last.(K show suprise)
C--quoted K said previously that ''If u defame me(LKY),u can ask
any question
about me in court'',u avoid me...
k--hearing for quantum of damages,not liablity
C--intended one and half days,why restriced to 2 hour
why come to court,game players here,hide bebind counsel,
C then asked k not to be interupted by S.
(S objected to almost all questions put by R)
K---people here can see how C belittle R
C--(left hand in waist,fold 2 arms in front)
C---run NKF w/o transparency,much importtant than dollar and
cents
S ---we alrdy passed stage of liablity.CSJ did not give defense
and materials
and walk away.
K--i will help court..Transpancy International..award
(pl read news,all there lah)
(C challenged K to answer even Judge disallowed the
questions.
It seem this ex---lawyer LKY want to speak.But his counsel Singh
stood
up to object already.LKY of course respect his SC.u can say
he hide behind Singh.)
K---(he gave a brief National Education lesson to C
how SG has less than 100 million to currently over 300
billion.
K asid he will not reveal assests in GIC and Temasek.
300 b is estimated by other.C interuppted.
K said ''Let me finish''
0205C--everythings u have done,closr down medias,GRC..
C---C asked K back in court tomorrow(wednesday)
C--send police to stage during GE,Freedom House:''very hard to
change
SG gavaman democratically''
K---(k reminded C to ask meat questions.
S---3 rd time to remind only get 2 hours.
C---i dunt hate u(LKY)
C----Ex Director of International Bar Association ...Many
delegates
left SG unhappy that the conference held in here.
K--World Bank
C--is it the same World Bank that accredited NGO's
came to SG but SG refused some.
K---SG no need to comply with every international
organsiation
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0225 pm
C--recent declassfied document in London,(former ISD
detainee
and oppostoion leader )Lim
Ching Siong.K came to power
and political opponents(u can read SDP site)
C---(he challenged LKY)u will initiate full and frank
investigations into
all ISD detention.
C--u use Press Secretary to issue press statement
(read news lah,all there for this topics)
C--i have 3 children,sued 3 times,cant concentrate in
political
works,u abuse of laws,refuse to play games,No equal
opportunity
for Ruling and Oppostion Parties.
I sell newspaper and jailed.
K---rules in UK and Us,dunt become a bankrupt
S---we tired of political speech,sill speech.
C--2 ways of gaining poltical powers.
1 is Constitutional means,2 is by violents and illegally,are u
up for free and..
fight.
K--u are hinder Opposition Party,SDP under Chiam,won 3
seats,
then SDP de facto Opposition leader.You destory SDP.WP is
Opposition leader.
K--u are hinder Opposition Party,SDP under Chiam,won 3
seats,
then SDP de facto Opposition leader.You destory SDP.WP is
Opposition leader.
Chiam and Loh ,both won seat and not sued for defamations.
You lost succedly.
c--freedom of speech and assembly
c--aloow 5 people assembly
K--rules existed before PAP...
C--u control the press
0245 pm
Judge--Court taken note of CDSJ
conduct.I repeat many times
...irrelevant questions..
K---(NE lesson resumed)30 % students in teritary,40 % in
Poly,20%
in ITE,HDB house,health,court room,Is it better off than
1959?
Real test,not u say or i say....(read news again)
C--50% of young people not patrotic to SG.
have u failed ,Mr Lee?
K--Final test are they leave permantly.
Top 20% people can go to English speaking countries
(K then advise NGO help CSJ discharge
of bankcruptcy and campian again)
K---no gavaman in any country has duty to build Opposition.
LKY told CSJ he had a better chance than Chaim and Loh if he can
build up his credibility.
Press and public in court can see how C abuse of court.
Judge in charge,gave full opportunity...
0254 pm
Judge---one minute more.If u follow
this line of questions,
do it outside my court
room.
C--Do u believe public allowed to have free say in running
of country?
0256
Singh looked at the clock at back of court.
I think he 'remind'Judge the time is up.(Always respect
Judge
in charge)
K--My reputation 50 plus years,49 years ruling party plus 4 and
half
as Opposition Party,mixtures of good and bad
My job is done..(I Think this last question is totally
irrelevant.
Judge just gave LAST chance to CSJ and also let LKY aired his
view.
He looked want to talk more!!)
CSC---I demand cross exam LKY.
Singh--Object.they should allot time among themselves.
(so u see.CSJ spent one and half hours out of 2 hours to cross
exam
LKY.what a PhD,but not in laws!!)
Judge---10 minutes allowed.
0259pm
CSC--how many as MM?
K---3 or 4 years.as data bank for ministers.
from 1952 as lawyers for Unions,knowing 56 years of SG and its
people,
SG is a place not to be independent
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CSC----do u watch TV?(K says yes)
Do u watch your own interviews.
K says not specially.Earlier years ,yes.Then,K let it pass.
K---I know what i had said.
CSC--then u are familiar with what u say?
CSC---will u watch a documentary ,not come from your
mind?(objection)
(There are many objections.I dunt put here)
CSC---recently there is one about u control media
and political..
Name of video:ONE NATION UNDER LEE.Are u aware?
(u can read fr SDP site of screening of this get troubles..)
CSC----u are not interviewed and not from your mind.
Singh---what is the question?
CSC---documentary about intergrity,u come to power...
Singh---..of rumors
CSC---do u want a copy of the video?
K---i dunt need to be given...Some body will give me a
summary...
CSC---are u still in charge of SG?
K--I am not.Otherwise,how can i attend conference in London,
Tokyo,
not in charge,therefore,i have time.
CSC___Mas selemat escaped...
Singh----10 mins done.Very sad.
Judeg---one last question
0311pm
CSC---dictator's skill to govern SG?
0314
JUDGE---10 MINS UP.
LKY released from witness stand
Singh----affitdavit and ACIE not challenged.4 reporters
will not be called as witenss to testify.Their affitdavit
will not be included as evidences.
Judge order court adjourned to 4.30pm same day.
