National Day 2008 The Spirit of Singapore is Kiasuism

last SG · 2008-07-23T23:41:57+00:00

"The debt that all men pay" is death, what's the big deal.... so now you are comparing Singapore with North Korea? forgot your medicine again hah?... talk s...

Dondontan SG

Nothing really to look forward to this National Day.

This is the second or third troll (kramnave) I "bump into" here. He only appears in this thread and no other threads. Looks like he is not here for decent discussion. This person is problematic.

kramnave SG

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

Hi, troll

Just as I expected it from you. Once you get a reply from your victim, you will go on to base on the reply to harass, harass, attack attack for the very pure motive to want the victim to say things which are pleasing to you. If they fail to do so, you will continue to bait the victims to your satisfaction. This is some kind of mental illness, you should go to psychiatrist for professional help.

I am not responsible to please you, to make you happy, you are not my boss, I am not accountable to you. I am not responsible for your happiness. Do you want me to send my every post to you for your vetting to satisfy your selfish craving, satisfy your ill interest before I post here?

I reiterate, I am not responsible to please you, to make you happy, you are not my boss, I am not accountable to you. I am not responsible for your happiness.

I was just asking a simple question, is PAP = Singapore ? Don't think that sounded offensive. If not, why do you dislike Singapore so much ? If there were more Singaporeans like you who does not think PAP = Singapore and thinks nothing about our nation then isn't it a cause for concern ? I don't know wassup with the hostility. Maybe we have crossed paths before and you are some oldtimer in this forum but im not the one with a new nick. Else, I don't understand the hostility. To the point of me being an "arsehole, spoilt brat and a troll"....where did that come from ?

kramnave SG

Nothing really to look forward to this National Day.

This is the second or third troll (kramnave) I "bump into" here. He only appears in this thread and no other threads. Looks like he is not here for decent discussion. This person is problematic.

This thread has like 20 + posts. I have 2000+ posts to my name. Simple mathematical calculation..I would think i have appeared in other threads. Does someone who doesn't equate PAP to Singapore but still thinks nothing about our nation not warrant a decent discussion ?

Fantagf SG

Heaven knows your motive of the harassment. YOu are here expecting forumers to give comments, send posts to please you, nobody owes you anything, nobody owes you a living. I am definitely not oblige to write stuff to please you. If you have problem in my posts that is your personal problem, I am not here to make you happy. It is typical of trolls to resort to harassment, attack, humiliation and on and on when what is written here does not please them. I have read your posts harassing forumers before and did not expect myself to be victimised by you one day. There are always disagreements, good eg is stupidissmart may not agree with some comments but so far he is not resorting to harassment and attack.

kramnave SG

I'm sorry if you feel that a question like "is PAP = Singapore" equates to harassment, people owing me a living, writing to please me and from that you can tell that im a spoilt brat (even though im not the one incessantly complaining about everything under the sun here), arsehole, troll etc.

I was just surprised that a Singaporean who doesn't equate Singapore to PAP can still feel nothing for the country. I got no answers, no discussion but a torrent of abuse. Now i am being accused of harassment, attack and humiliation. All because of a simple question. Chill alright ? I won't probe further If the fact that you have no love for your country is a sensitive topic. I just wonder if it is a common phenomenon in Singapore thats all.

Fantagf SG

Anybody with sense knows that that is more than a simple question, with it comes harassment, abuse. You did not stop your nuisance after accepting my reply to the question - you went further to find fault. Chill? What about someone on the street slap you and tell you it is nothing. YOu behave a spoilt brat throwing tantrum. I don't need to explain any more to you for thru the above post I confirm you are a troll. If you are having some kind of personal problems and just want to come here to manifest your problems, don't target any forumers. You initiate the abuse now you point fingers, wow so bitchy of you. It does not matter to you at all if we love Singapore or not, you don't need to interfere, it really is none of your business. So what if we love Singapore, so what if we don't love Singapore, what are you going to do to us.

Troll:

Fantagf SG

The question "is PAP = Singapore" alone is not harassment, it is your behaviour, don't take us here as idiots, twist and turn like a poisonous snake, or worse than a poisonous snake to quote that asking that question is harassment. You are obviously creating trouble here. Like I stated in my previous post that there are disagreements, a good eg is stupidissmart who does not agree with some posts, he does not resort to abuse, harassment, personal attack on the forumers. In contrary, you are doing all these. WE don't owe you your happiness, we are not here to post stuff that please you.

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

Troll:

What the fuck are you blabbering about? As far as I am concerned, I see that you are doing one hell of a fine strawman and it's so good, that you could even see all the hay sticking out of it.

Fantagf SG

What the fuck are you blabbering about? As far as I am concerned, I see that you are doing one hell of a fine strawman and it's so good, that you could even see all the hay sticking out of it.

It is typical of kramnave to behave such. REad posts from him harassing, personal attacking forumers in the past. He has deep set problems which I believe the professional psychiatrist can help. Everyone has the freedom to give comments, discuss. If people feel stressed to take part in discussion here then something is really very wrong.

Trump_Card SG

Perhaps it's just you who is making a big fuss over a simple question - "so Singapore = PAP ?"

-.-"

Fantagf SG

Perhaps it's just you who is making a big fuss over a simple question - "so Singapore = PAP ?"

-.-"

hey, I have replied to the question but the troll keeps making fuss. Great that you condone harassment.

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

hey, I have replied to the question but the troll keeps making fuss. Great that you condone harassment.

What? What the fuck is wrong with answering his question? How the fuck is that harrassment? Did you cast too many stones before any crime was committed?

KeNsoU SG

i can only say this.. PAP doesn't own Singapore, and Singapore doesn't belong to PAP.

If PAP owns Singapore, it won't be a "democratic society" they claimed to be. Right? and there wont be any other political parties around.

Fantagf SG

i can only say this.. PAP doesn't own Singapore, and Singapore doesn't belong to PAP.

If PAP owns Singapore, it won't be a "democratic society" they claimed to be. Right? and there wont be any other political parties around.

Yes, PAP does not own Singapore. Singapore does not belong to PAP. It is people of Singapore who voted PAP to govern Singapore.

kramnave SG

Disclaimer: This is not in reply to anybody, attack or harassment of any sort

In the spirit of the topic. May I say NDP 2008 and the spirit of it or whatsoever...

I used to think that many Singaporeans dislike Singapore because they cannot live with the governance of PAP. Some people seem to equate Singapore to the PAP, which is hardly surprising because PAP have governed Singapore since independence. Bad news for Singapore brings joy to their heart as there is reason to condemn the PAP and prove that they are inept. There are of course Singaporeans who hates the PAP but loves Singapore. That is the reason they are standing out and trying to say...make a difference. etc.

Okay, what about Singaporeans who hates the PAP, does not equate Singapore to PAP but dislikes Singapore ? I have never thought about that before. What could bring about such feelings ? Is it prevalent amongst Singaporean nowadays ? If it is, it could be quite disturbing.

Fantagf SG

What? What the fuck is wrong with answering his question? How the fuck is that harrassment? Did you cast too many stones before any crime was committed?

The question "is PAP = Singapore" alone is not harassment, it is your behaviour,

redDUST SG

in the modern singapore context of today, it is arguable that singapore = pap = singapore to a large extent.

which aspects of singapore, tangible & intangible that pap hasn't got a hand on? well, i don't believe it will last but i have no doubt that what singapore is today, good and bad; is a direct result of pap's doing/undoing.

kramnave SG

Just found these in my mailbox. speaking of harassment.....

Arsehole, you are a frustrated man, there is no need for you to find people to victimise to manifest that you are having some kind of problem. YOu are manifesting hidden frustration. ARe you having some kind of impotent problem that is why you are so frustrated?

Nobody owes you a living, fucktard. What goes around comes around, wait for your retribution. I am not responsible to make you happy. So what about what I said about the ruling party, you want to sue me, fuck off, get lost, arsehole. If you want to support PAP and defend them that is your choice don't create trouble for anyone. Fuck off, you bloody stinky arsehole. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion,so you have a problem with this? Why don't you go approach PAP to shut people's mouths to talk about them?

YOu have nothing better to do so do nitpicking. You are worse than Satan. If you have impotent problem, go see doctor. Don't come to forum to harass , attack people to release your frustration.

Fuck off stinky arsehole, kramnave. YOu are damn bloody spoilt. People must say things to please you. fuck off.

So want to sue me or not since you so damn bloody buay song. You behave a bitchy woman in a man's body, a disgrace to men. Keep attacking, harassing forumers here.

Can see that you are menopausing everyday. login to just get back at me, very bo liao. YOu in love with me, give me so much attention. ha ha ha. REmember, those who reprimanded you know what sort of ugly character you are. If you have problems no need to manifest it by venting frustration on me, i am in no way responsible for it. Get it clear, fucktard. If you can't be objective, then it is too bad, continue to behave worse than a bitchy woman, ha ha ha. YOu are worse than a bitchy woman.

Hey, it is in your blood to victimise people. So pathetic. he hee heee. Fucktard.

Menopausing/

redDUST SG

Just found these in my mailbox. speaking of harassment.....

YOu have nothing better to do so do nitpicking. You are worse than Satan. If you have impotent problem, go see doctor. Don't come to forum to harass , attack people to release your frustration.

Fuck off stinky arsehole, kramnave. YOu are damn bloody spoilt. People must say things to please you. fuck off.

So want to sue me or not since you so damn bloody buay song. You behave a bitchy woman in a man's body, a disgrace to men. Keep attacking, harassing forumers here.

Hey, it is in your blood to victimise people. So pathetic. he hee heee. Fucktard.

Menopausing/

bro, you got a real fan here...

redDUST SG

redDUST -pls stay out of the ring-

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