Anwar vs Shabery in televised debate

redDUST SG

KUALA LUMPUR: Information Minister Datuk Ahmad Shabery Cheek took on PKR adviser Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim in a rarely seen debate on live television last night.

The one-hour debate, entitled “Today we form the Government, tomorrow the fuel prices will go down” proceeded smoothly with both speakers backing their points with facts.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/7/16/nation/21836068&sec=nation

i just saw the debate on you tube; though the debate not perfect, and perhaps a tad too short; it (again) demonstrates malaysia's new openness and progress in politics. i have no doubt in the upheaval that malaysia is experiencing now will have short term pains, it will grow more mature politically and the country's survival in the long term is more assured. is anwar out to ruin the country? or BN has got it wrong? the end state is, the people can decide and will be able to make an informed choice on what's good for them and the country. that's a small but significant step in the right direction, imo.

here, we are still railroaded with a one track mind, i-right-you-wrong bullshit propoganda.

first world, my foot.

Poh Ah Pak SG

The MPs here are not politicians, they are managers.

That is why dead and lifeless society.

Lee Kuan Yew doesn't want a politicised society.

He wants a society where people follow his dictates and kowtow to him.

That is what Lee Kuan Yew wants.

Lee Kuan Yew is nothing but horseshit to me.

redDUST SG

The MPs here are not politicians, they are managers.

That is why dead and lifeless society.

Lee Kuan Yew doesn't want a politicised society.

He wants a society where people follow his dictates and kowtow to him.

That is what Lee Kuan Yew wants.

Lee Kuan Yew is nothing but horseshit to me.

is that why he needs to die (soon)?

robertteh SG

KUALA LUMPUR: Information Minister Datuk Ahmad Shabery Cheek took on PKR adviser Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim in a rarely seen debate on live television last night.

The one-hour debate, entitled “Today we form the Government, tomorrow the fuel prices will go down” proceeded smoothly with both speakers backing their points with facts.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/7/16/nation/21836068&sec=nation

here, we are still railroaded with a one track mind, i-right-you-wrong bullshit propoganda.

first world, my foot.

A true democracy at work will prevent instability of the country. The question now all Singaporeans will have to ask themselves is:

"Do I still want to fall for all the past propaganda painted by government controlled media against western democracy just to allow a few selfish power that be to continue to hijack democracy for its own purpose or do I want to practise true democracy which not only will not cause instability but will assure us all to bring about stability through genuine rule of law to reach mature understanding of democratic practices?"

Poh Ah Pak SG

is that why he needs to die (soon)?

My view of Lee Kuan Yew is that he is a bastard.

There are still people hoodwinked by his propaganda and afraid of him.

That is why he must die.

He is simply an old bastard.

I find it ludicrous that this bastard has been in power since 1959.

Almost 50 years now.

The amount of damage this has done to Singapore society is too great.

rain-coat SG

you go run for elections lah

Poh Ah Pak SG

I wonder Lee Kuan Yew dares to debate with JBJ and Chee on live TV or not.

I think he is a coward.

He knows that he would be exposed.

He likes to talk bullshit on TV, gives his bullshit views about political affairs.

But come to live debate with opposition, he diam diam.

Don't dare to open his fucking mouth.

What a bastard, this fucker.

He is nothing but shit.

Sad bastard.

You can't fool me Lee Kuan Yew.

I know you.

You can't fool me.

Poh Ah Pak SG

Want me to vote for you Lee Kuan Yew?

Don't make me laugh lah Lee Kuan Yew.

I rather go and vote for a dog in the street than you.

t_a_s SG

pap mps are not orators, they came in by walkover, so their tongues are tied, talk one pc one pc, they are lousy mps, who don't know how to conduct meet the people session ? who dont know how to give food vouchers ? who don't know how to write letters? nia mah!!!!

t_a_s SG

Breaking news : Anwar arrested today at 1.15pm

redDUST SG

Breaking news : Anwar arrested today at 1.15pm

yup, got my news alert earlier. looks like the BN folks are pulling no punches to kill/stop his political comeback.

i think anwar made an error by announcing that he will form the government by sept 26 or some time around there. this helped the incumbant to plan how to stop him, any which way possible.

Poh Ah Pak SG

pap mps are not orators, they came in by walkover, so their tongues are tied, talk one pc one pc

This bullshit GRC system.

I really despise it.

Any fucker with no political skills can go freerider in GRC and then squeeze into parliament.

Only a fucker like Lee Kuan Yew will implement this type of lan jiao system to secure his fucking rule.

I really despise that bastard.

Display Name SG

It is almost impossible for the opposition to take over the state government, because in Malaysia, the law system, the constitution is all inclined towards the ruling party.

Just few days ago, after so much rumours, the opposition head has finally submitted a motion of non-confidence towards the government. Seems like they have secured all the potential votes.
However the parliament speaker who is at the BN side rejected this motion, and said this motion is not right to be approved, and in the law the parliament speaker has right to reject any motion without giving any reason.
tsk tsk...Like that even if the opposition has secured 2/3 of the seats they will won't be able to overturn the government. They have to wait another 4 years+ from now.

I really pity Anwar, being jailed for so many years without any crime.The reason why Mahathir and C4 use sodomy to attack him because Anwar didn't involve in any corruption case. Hence, they couldn't find any excuse and finally resort to dirty trick.

redDUST SG

i think there is more twists in this developing tale. dr m has stoke the fire by suggesting that racist muhyiddin can topple c4 in the coming umno election. dr m could indirectly help anwar. this is a 3 faction war; anwar and pakatan trying to topple the government, dr m and his invisible army trying to force pak lah out and destabilise umno and the brewing in-fighting within umno.

the other report about the factious pas and that some may cross over to umno could complicate matters.

so far, the army has been staying on the sideline. the police force are pro-government.

the political upheaval in malaysia certainly has upped a few notches since the election. i just hope when the dust settle, everything remains intact and common sense prevail. i got loads of relatives up north.

stupidissmart SG

A true democracy at work will prevent instability of the country. The question now all Singaporeans will have to ask themselves is:

Talking about black and white thinking, tis seems to be a just black thinking. Why don't singaporean ask themselves tis

"Other than the problem of democracy, has tis government perform badly, taking into account our restriction in size and lack of resources ? Do we have a poor quality of life and fare badly compared with other countries ? Will democracy helps, looking at the governance of countries like USA, Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Indonesia, India etc. Can I name one smart policy or governance tat they had made recently ? Is democracy overrated ? Will it make my life better or worse ?"

rain-coat SG

since poh ah pak thinks he can do a better job, why doesnt he?