Lees ready to b X-exaimned.''Dr Chee,what r u waiting for?''

last SG · 2008-05-27T13:20:28+00:00

There is hope yet for you to be a journalist, with this being a good effort in posting a report without lacing it with personal views and opinions woven into...

dumbdumb! SG

lol, so exciting.

t_a_s SG

By gate crashing the court, MM Lee is guilty of contempt of court, if the hearing is held in England, MM lee will be shown the door. This shows that he does not respect the law, this shows that the judge is under Lee. He is above the law. It does not matter CSJ win or lose the case, it is the arrogance of MM Lee that make the people fed up. Look at TT Durai, he can go overseas work, but CSJ can't leave the country. One sided law. Who swallowed our money, TT Durai or Chee ? What Chee get? Fame ? The crux of the matter is not Chee, it is the high handedness of the pap, and the bullying tactic of the pap. As long as you dont disturb the fami Lee, it will be ok for you to stay in spore. Try cheating to pay less income tax, no problem. If you are Francis T Seow, then better pay full income tax. That is what I mean. Low TK dared not bring up the NKF issue because he will be marked and lose his seat. Chee is daring .

Gutturosa SG

I think the whole Singapore is more interested in what CSJ has to back up his accusation, because it is in the interest of Singaporeans to know truth and not if MM Lee is Mr Nice Guy.

So please dont distracted by side shows, be focus!!

Atobe SG

Maybe you have misinterpreted my question. I was asking if CSJ has what it take (as it facts and evidence) to substantiate what he said about Singapore government and NKF.

IMO, SDP was never a threat to PAP in the 2006 election because majority of Singaporeans dont agree with CSJ's conduct and knew that SDP under the leadership of CSJ will get to nowhere. I believe SDP's votes and rally turnout speaks for itself. So, I would say, that whatever charges PM and MM press against CSJ has got no material impact on outcome of the election because that was not the first nor will it be the last.

Was your question misinterpreted, or did you mean something more then the simple questions asked - which you has now surfaced in a more ''baiting manner" ?

Did you read what CSJ had written that resulted in MM and PM feeling that their reputation had been affected ?

Much has been linked even by participants in several forums - not least by our very venerable robbertteh in this Speakers' Corner.

If I should claim that my reputation has been affected by your writing on a general topic of public interest - { such as your accusing participants in this thread as being ''sheep and wankers'' for their die-hard cynicism towards the MEW } - and my over-sensitivity or guilt will demand that I see your acts as inflicting damage to my reputation - can you defend yourself in a litigation proceeding that I will take out on you for the many different ways that I will infer your writings to have affected me ?

MM's conduct and attitude towards his political challengers in the 1997 election - Francis Seow, Tang Liang Hong and J.B.Jeyaratnam - is already indicative of the type of politics that he is prepared to sink to.

Ironically, as the God Father adapt in such hard politics he will accuse a young puppy in CSJ to practice gangster politics.

His remarkable comments in rebuttal to Dr Catherine Lim's writing is even more revealing of the hoodlum dressed in white.

Could he be a sheep in wolf's clothing, or a wolf in white sheep wool ?

Either way he strive to be No 1 - as a Sheep or as a Wolf - you got to be careful who you call next as ''sheep''.

"Supposing Catherine Lim was writing about me and not the prime minister...She would not dare, right? Because my posture, my response has been such that nobody doubts that if you take me on, I will put on knuckle-dusters and catch you in a cul de sac... Anybody who decides to take me on needs to put on knuckle dusters. If you think you can hurt me more than I can hurt you, try. There is no other way you can govern a Chinese society." - SM Lee Kuan Yew, The Man and His Ideas, 1997

t_a_s SG

We have to look at the root of the problem, before we comment on anything, in this case, it is the NKF issue,and Chee is trying to link this to the govt. The truth speaks for itself. There is unlevel playing field. I have said if you dont dig out anything, then you will be safe.But Chee could not keep quiet on this. So that is the defamation suit. Why there is no defamation on Low TK, think of it ?

t_a_s SG

The problem is they covered up this NKF saga for too long, and when it is exposed by Chee, the despot could not wait to charge Chee by defamation suit. This is an obvious excuse, it is not side track. pls bear in mind, a lot of things go unnoticed if nobody dare to bring up . I salute Dr Chee. He has the courage to confront the despot. It is not side track. I am entitled to have my own opinion. Look at the declassified statemant by the British, then you understand more, pls read widely.

Gutturosa SG

Was your question misinterpreted, or did you mean something more then the simple questions asked - which you has now surfaced in a more ''baiting manner" ?

Did you read what CSJ had written that resulted in MM and PM feeling that their reputation had been affected ?

Much has been linked even by participants in several forums - not least by our very venerable robbertteh in this Speakers' Corner.

Ironically, as the God Father adapt in such hard politics he will accuse a young puppy in CSJ to practice gangster politics.

His remarkable comments in rebuttal to Dr Catherine Lim's writing is even more revealing of the hoodlum dressed in white.

Could he be a sheep in wolf's clothing, or a wolf in white sheep wool ?

Either way he strive to be No 1 - as a Sheep or as a Wolf - you got to be careful who you call next as ''sheep''

Atobe, I am not sure why you are side tracking to other issues which are not material to this case and our discussion.

What I am asking you is if CSJ has what it takes to defend himself against the charges press against him, not if LKY is Mr. Nice man in politices.

Gutturosa SG

1) They cover up NKF saga? Who are they? PM and MM Lee?

2) I thought SPH is the one that expose what is happending at NKF? Which Chee are you talking about?

You can salute anybody you want, but that is not going to make any difference to how the judge and majority of Singaporeans going to view this case.

Atobe SG

Atobe, I am not sure why you are side tracking to other issues which are not material to this case and our discussion.

What I am asking you is if CSJ has what it takes to defend himself against the charges press against him, not if LKY is Mr. Nice man in politices.

You did clarify your postion, and I did answer you by giving you an analogy of what CSJ is facing - as described in my last post - and I did ask you 'how would you defend yourself under similar circumstances ?"

Did I side-track ?

I had actually continued to elaborate the possible reasons for MM doing what he continue to do as it is in his nature.

Are you unable to discern what was written, or have you something in mind in posing the question ?

Shall I repeat my last reply on Page 1 of this thread - and is as follows ?

Was your question misinterpreted, or did you mean something more then the simple questions asked - which you has now surfaced in a more ''baiting manner" ?

Did you read what CSJ had written that resulted in MM and PM feeling that their reputation had been affected ?

Much has been linked even by participants in several forums - not least by our very venerable robbertteh in this Speakers' Corner.

If I should claim that my reputation has been affected by your writing on a general topic of public interest - { such as your accusing participants in this thread as being ''sheep and wankers'' for their die-hard cynicism towards the MEW } - and my over-sensitivity or guilt will demand that I see your acts as inflicting damage to my reputation - can you defend yourself in a litigation proceeding that I will take out on you for the many different ways that I will infer your writings to have affected me ?

Ironically, as the God Father adapt in such hard politics he will accuse a young puppy in CSJ to practice gangster politics.

His remarkable comments in rebuttal to Dr Catherine Lim's writing is even more revealing of the hoodlum dressed in white.

Could he be a sheep in wolf's clothing, or a wolf in white sheep wool ?

Either way he strive to be No 1 - as a Sheep or as a Wolf - you got to be careful who you call next as ''sheep''.

lionnoisy SG

Well well well! The cross exam saga is over.

Who is the loser and who is the winner?You are the Judge!

What happened in today hearing----27.05.2008 Tue.

In the beginning,Singh cited few cases to request

court to stop irrelevant questions put to Lees.

After heaty agruments,at 10.58 am Judge ruled that LHL

to be cross exam till 12.00 noon today and LKY to be cross

examed for 2 hours!!After LHL was released

from witness stand at 12.16 noon,Singh asked for LKY to be

cross exam immediately for LKY had to attend important

matter.CSC and CSJ objected,citing CSC need taking foods

and medications.Judge adjoured for 10 mins.

LKY arrived at 12.05 noon.Rave started questioned LKY at 1.00

till 1.26 pm,followed by CSJ till 2.56pm!!2 hours is over!

CSC demanded to question LKY.Judge allowed 10 mins.

Few overall impressions on Chees

Well They are late in the mornings of Mon and Tue and Monday afternoon.

Today,Tue 27 05.2008,LHL sat on the witness box from

9.58 am and ready to be cross examined.He looks like a

obiedent primary school student waiting exam starting.

But our learned CSJ late again,arriving at 10.05 am!!

No need worry.Court take note and some 50 public and press

witnessed all this.

Small matter?u say lah.

2.Body language

While cross exam,Chees sometimes folded his arms in front

of chest,or one hand putting on waist.In this morning,

he pointed figure at Singh.Well,today evening Sin Ming etc

already put this in head lines.

3.CSC fared better than CSJ

CSJ talked most of the times.I find CSC more calm

and more powerful.

4.Waste of precious times or bigger tactics

For few years,Chees have challenged Lees to be cross examined

in court.Yesterday and today,they have the golden opportunity

to ask relevant questions over the case.But they used the time

to make political speech,turning court into political arena.

Well.They and their supporters think that the questions they wanted to

ask are relevant.However,Judge disqualified more than

95 % of their questions to 2 Lees.After they knew there was

limited time,they should ask short and sweet questions,and

relevant questions!!

So many topics mentioned

5.Chees mentioned NKF,HDB's secrecy on materials cost and profits,

management of GIC,Francis Seow,ISD,long term ISD detainees

recent declassified UK documents,recent master piece of

One Nation Under Lee video etc

ie all the materials copy from SDP web site

Atobe SG

lionnoisy, with your half-baked efforts in protecting both MM LKY and PM LHL, they should both employ you as their PR Executive to protect their obvious half-baked effort to disguise their influence over the Court.

You could have redeemed yourself by posting more accurate information for all to read, instead of posting your half-baked comments as if though you could have a seat reserve for you at the front row of the public gallery - when there were more then 50 dialect speaking uncles and aunties crowding everyone out of the gallery as reported in the SDP website.

Why will dialect speaking uncles and aunties appear in this trial to take up space that so many others would have wanted so badly to be inside the Court to report on this event - seen to be the "Trial of the Decade" ?

If you must report - at least do it professionally, and do a complete job instead of posting half-baked report that was supposed to be continued, but which you had conveniently left out the continuing details, substituting with your nonsensical diatribes at the Chee siblings and the SDP.

Lee Kuan Yew barges into courtroom

Monday, 26 May 2008

Singapore Democrats

Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew barged into the courtroom this afternoon when Mr Lee Hsien Loong was being cross-examined by the defence in a defamation case brought on by the Lees against SDP and its leaders.

Before the senior Lee made his unannounced appearance together with at least seven bodyguards, the door of the courtroom was flung open by one of his securities who had quickly rushed in front of Justice Belinda Ang who was hearing the case at Court 4B.

Judge Ang and all the others present were clearly startled as to what was going on before they spotted a hunched Mr Lee Kuan Yew slowly made his way into the courtroom to take his seat next to SDP chairman Mr Gandhi Ambalam. But quickly, an alert lawyer of the plaintiff realized the unintended proximity and showed Mr Lee to another chair further away.

While all this drama was taking place, Mr Lee Hsien Loong was in the witness stand, making everyone wonder whether there is any truth to the maxim that "everyone before the law is equal" or some more equal than others.

After the dust has settled, so to speak, and some semblance and sanity returned, Dr Chee Soon Juan objected to the way the Lee Sr had made his entry. Dr Chee repeated asked Judge Ang to ask Mr Singh to introduce those who had barged in and to state what their roles were in relation to the hearing.

This is normal procedure. The defendants had to introduce Mr Gandhi Ambalam and Mr Chia Ti Lik, and to ask the Judge permission to let them sit in to help take notes. Despite the repeated appeals by Dr Chee to Judge Ang to ask the plaintffs counsel to do the same with Mr Lee's group, she did not.

Dr Chee pointed out that the Court should be blind to the status of the parties. For Mr Lee to enter the courtroom with his entourage in such a haughty manner was completely unacceptable.

There was also PAP MP, Mr Hri Kumar, was role was just to sit beside Mr Lee Kuan Yew. He was certainly not connected to the case and he did not seek permission from the Judge to be present.

Dr Chee also noted, besides the seven bodyguards, there were at least another ten unidentified persons who were already seated. Who these people were, and in what capacity they were present, asked Dr Chee. Getting no response from the bench, Dr Chee moved on to question the right of Mr Lee Kuan Yew to sit in while the cross-examination of Mr Lee Hsien Loong was taking place.

Dr Chee said this was because the affidavits that the two plaintiffs had submitted in support of their claims for damages were almost identical and that the questions that he would be posing to Lee Jr would be similar in nature.

However, the judge overruled the strenuous objections raised by Dr Chee and asked the SDP Counsel, Mr Ravi, to continue his cross-examination of Mr Lee Hsien Loong that was interrupted by Lee Sr's entry.

On several occasions, Mr Davinder Singh, counsel for the plaintiffs, rose to object the line of Mr Ravi's questioning of Mr Lee and reminded the defence counsel that he was a court official like him.

This prompted Dr Chee to remind the Judge that Mr Singh had the habit of throwing in subtle threats like this to Mr Ravi throughout the hearing in chambers, and now he was at it again in open court.

Later, Dr Chee, after establishing the fact that the two Lees had embarked on the lawsuit in their personal capacity, asked if Mr Lee had taken leave of absence from his duty as prime minister and whether there was anyone acting for him while he was appearing in court. Mr Davinder Singh immediately objected. However, when pushed, Mr Lee admitted that he did not take leave.

Dr Chee clarified that it was because Mr Lee had stated in his sworn affidavit, that he was a man with “unflinching fidelity to integrity” and as such he expected answers from Mr Lee and not interruptions from Mr Singh.

Almost throughout the entire cross-examination, Mr Singh kept “jumping up like a jackrabbit”, noted Dr Chee.

Dr Chee then read out a newspaper report of an earlier defamation suit brought against him in September 2004 by Mr Lee Kuan Yew and Mr Goh Chok Tong in which Mr Singh had noted that Dr Chee had been running down Singapore and the plaintiffs for years. Dr Chee had been carping about the lack of democracy.

Mr Singh, as defence counsel for both Mr Lee and Mr Goh, then had said: “In October 2001, he challenged the plaintiffs to answer his questions. He said the public had a right to know. He now has the opportunity of a lifetime—a chance to cross-examine the plaintiffs and extract answers to his pressing questions. What does he do? He flees.”

Turning to Judge Ang, Dr Chee said now was the chance for him to cross-examine the plaintiff and to elicit answers to those pressing questions that Mr Singh had accused Dr Chee of avoiding in the past. Dr Chee said now that he had been given this chance, Mr Singh kept preventing him from posing such questions of great public interest to Mr Lee.

The cross-examination of Mr Lee Hsien Loong continues tomorrow.

http://yoursdp.org/component/content/article/1-singapore/479-lee-kuan-yew-barges-into-courtroom

QX179R SG

Reuters - 35 minutes ago

SINGAPORE, May 27 - Singapore politicians hurled insults and clashed over transparency in the city-state in a court case on Tuesday.

Former leader Lee Kuan Yew, 84, and his son, the current Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, took the stand as part of a hearing to determine defamation damages against the opposition Singapore Democratic Party and its leader Chee Soon Juan, who is not a member of a parliament dominated by Lee's party.

"He is near psychopath," Lee Kuan Yew said of Chee Soon Juan.

"I don't think even Solomon would be able to mediate between a psychopath and sane rational people," he said, referring to the biblical King Solomon.

"I don't hate you, I feel sorry for you, I think you cut a pitiable figure," said Chee of Lee Kuan Yew.

Lee took out an award from Transparency International Malaysia on the stand to prove a point about his character.

Most of Chee's questions to Lee Hsien Loong, which ranged from the secrecy of Singapore's sovereign wealth fund investments to ministerial pay that is amongst the world's highest, were objected to by Lee's lawyer on the grounds of irrelevance and upheld by the judge.

Lee Kuan Yew is credited with policies that have been critical to making Singapore one of the region's most prosperous countries, but has been criticised by human rights groups for his use of lawsuits against political opponents and the media.

Singapore's political landscape has been dominated by one party -- the People's Action Party -- since its independence in 1965. Its past two prime ministers still retain loosely defined cabinet posts, namely "minister mentor" and "senior minister".

The three-day hearing ends on Wednesday.

798 SG

jiayou! Dr Chee!

purpledragon84 SG

Singapore's political landscape has been dominated by one party -- the People's Action Party -- since its independence in 1965. Its past two prime ministers still retain loosely defined cabinet posts, namely "minister mentor" and "senior minister".

Q.C.Pak SG

The propaganda is at its best again...

Poh Ah Pak SG

"He is near psychopath," Lee Kuan Yew said of Chee Soon Juan.

"I don't think even Solomon would be able to mediate between a psychopath and sane rational people," he said, referring to the biblical King Solomon.

84 years old already still act like 4 year old.

Shame shame shame Lee Kuan Yew.

You are a fucking bastard in my eye, Lee Kuan Yew.

Poh Ah Pak SG

Singapore - Singapore's most vocal opposition leader accused the High Court on Tuesday of making his cross-examination of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong "meaningless" by upholding objections to almost every question asked.

Lee and Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew pressed for a second day for aggravated damages against Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) chief Chee Soon Juan, his sister and executive member Chee Siok Chin, and the party itself.

Justice Belinda Ang granted the request of Lee's lawyer Davider Singh to limit the time for cross-examination of the prime minister, which started on Monday.

She also agreed to set two hours for the cross-examination of independence leader and Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, wrapping up the proceedings on Tuesday instead of Wednesday.

Lee took the witness stand for more than an hour. Singh objected to one question after another from Chee, who was representing himself, continually on the grounds of irrelevance. The objections were upheld.

"You have chopped off our legs and lopped off our arms," Chee Siok Chin said to Ang. "Do you want our heads next?"

The Lees won the defamation suit against the SDP and the Chees in 2006 stemming from the SDP newsletter, The New Democrat, published before the general election that year. It contained articles on a scandal at the National Kidney Foundation and drew parallels between how the charity and government were run.

The father and son sued over remarks which alleged they were corrupt and covered up wrongdoings at the foundation.

Not only were questions touching on the scandal ruled irrelevent, but others on Government Investment Corporation funds, Lee's salary and his awareness of the plights of the elderly poor and other conditions in the affluent city-state.

"Lee has said he takes great pride in his integrity," Chee told Ang in explaining a question. "It must be relevant."

"Move on," she responded.

Lee did acknowledge that he had said that Chee harbored hatred toward him. When Chee asked how Lee knew him, the prime minister said "not as a personal friend" but from his record as a public figure.

"I do not hate you," said Chee. "You are not worth the time and the effort."

The case marks the first time any leader of the ruling People's Action Party has been cross-examined by a political opponent in open court.

The party holds all but two seats in the 84-member parliament and has dominated the political scene since independence from Malaysia in 1965.

If the SDP is unable to pay up, the 28-year-old party faces the prospect of dissolution.

Chee Soon Juan was declared bankrupt following a defamation award of 500,000 Singapore dollars (373,000 US dollars) in February 2006 to Lee Kuan Yew and another former prime minister, Goh Chok Tong. He is barred from running for parliament until 2011.

His sister was declared bankrupt for failing to pay costs related to a protest last year.

Activists and critics including Amnesty International say Singapore's leaders use defamation lawsuits to cripple opposition politicians.

The government maintains such legal action is necessary to safeguard the leaders' reputations.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/208124

Shameless fucking bastard.

lionnoisy SG

Some of ''dialect speaking uncles and aunties'' can understand English.

Do u need a English test before we allow them go inside court ?

Yesterday,monday,there are organised crowd from Teck Ghee

area to support their own MP LHL.What is wrong with this?

Do u think NTUC or People Association cant mobilise many RC

,CCC or CC to Q up early morning to fill up every single seats

in public gallery?Every RC just send 1 man is more than enough.

Do u think Lees need this kind of hit under the belt tactcis?

Do u think all seats occupied by PAP etc will help Lees?

There is no organised crowd today lah...

2.I am sorry CSJ cried in court that SDP members could not

come in because they came late to Q up!!

The public were more eager than SDP to enter court room.

Today one SDP member was allowed by Judge sat

behind CSJ to take records.

But i dunt think he took much records with his lap top!!

3.Pl bear with my inability to state facts here.Did i tell u

I was there?

4.I appeal to relevant parties to post transcripts of these 3 days

open hearing on web site.Then we can see true colors of

all parties!

5.ZAOBAO news as reference

李总理：　起诉徐顺全等人为表清白

（2008-05-27）

fieldset { width: 309px; border: 1px solid #990000; } legend { font-family: Arial,"宋体"; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; color: #990000; } 早报导读   ● 蔡添成　周殊钦

李显龙总理指出，他是因新加坡民主党秘书长徐顺全和其妹徐淑真等人对他作出不确实的严重指责，才决定起诉徐氏兄妹和民主党诽谤。而他这么做是为了还自己和政府一个清白，不是为了钱。

他昨天在高庭接受民主党代表律师拉维盘问时，说明自己在获知民主党的党报《民主报》刊登的文章对他构成诽谤之后，便马上采取行动起诉对方的原因。

拉维问李总理，徐氏兄妹已先后被宣判破产，难道他不担心拿不回赔偿费吗？总理答说：“这起诉讼案是为了还我清白和说明真相，并非关于钱，而是要纠正视听，阻止他们散播恶毒的谎言。”

拉维再问总理，他在《民主报》刊登这篇文章两个月后才来提出诉讼，是否是有计划的举动？总理说，这不是经过事先策划的行为，如果他更早知道民主报刊登诽谤他的言论，必定会更早采取法律行动。

拉维指总理选择在大选竞选期间起诉民主党的党要，已对民主党构成了伤害。李总理不同意这样的说法，他说民主党在大选中失败，主要是本身表现差，同这起官司无关。

李总理在庭上指出，他认为徐顺全是一个撒谎者和骗子，让新加坡的反对党人蒙羞，他也知道徐顺全痛恨新加坡领导人，但他个人并不痛恨徐顺全。

他说，新加坡政府是以廉洁诚信、任人唯贤和以效能治国，而不是贪图权力和有贪念。

徐氏兄妹是因民主党在前年出版的首期党报《民主报》上刊登谈论NKF基金会事件的评论，对李总理、李资政和政府作出毫无根据的指责，而被两位领导人起诉。《民主报》当时所刊登的针对NKF基金会事件的评论，指总理和他的政府其实早已知道在NKF基金会事件中所揭露的实情，却为了免受批评而刻意隐瞒真相，并且影射总理和资政“不诚实”、“也不配担任政府领导职务”。

洪素燕法官前年九月已作出即席判决，以他们的指责毫无根据为理由，宣判李总理和李资政胜诉，并裁决徐氏兄妹须作出名誉损失赔偿、日后不得发表或透过其他方式重复有关的诽谤言论、支付诉方的全部讼费和承担法庭估算赔偿额的堂费。法庭昨天是对他们所应支付

的名誉赔偿额进行公开审讯。

高庭上星期四审理文达星代表诉方提出的申请，以徐氏兄妹和目前身在海外的反对党人萧添寿所提交的宣誓书，旨在诽谤李总理和李资政、内容同这起诽谤官司无关，以及辩方是在滥用司法程序为理由，要求撤消三人的宣誓书。

这项申请因徐顺全宣称需要时间作出答复而被拖延。高庭昨早继续跟进这项申请，以致无法按时在上午10时进行公开审讯。洪素燕法官在内堂审理后，裁决撤消徐顺全三人的宣誓书，但徐顺全随即表示要对这个判决提出上诉，还要求把一些人权报告列为向李总理和李资政进行盘问的呈堂文件。他甚至还向法官要求展延公开审讯，让他办理有关的上诉。

根据一般民事诉讼案，上诉过程需要三至六个月的时间，但法官拒绝了这些要求，并裁定在下午2时30分于第4B庭开庭审讯。

李总理于下午2时25分提前来到法庭，准备在庭上供证，但徐氏兄妹却迟至2时42分才出现。文达星在开庭陈词时，要求徐氏兄妹尊重法庭的程序和开庭时间。不过开庭没多久，徐顺全和拉维便一再起身，并且屡次提高声量打断文达星的谈话，后来连总理上了证人栏准备宣誓的时候，也因徐顺全等人一再“抢话”，必须停一阵子才宣誓。

徐顺全在拉维结束盘问之后，紧接着向李总理盘问，却提出一些同本案无关的问题，以致诉方代表律师文达星好几次不得不站起来阻止徐顺全继续提出各种无关痛痒的问题。

徐氏兄妹选择自行抗辩，而涉及本案的民主党则由拉维律师代表。徐顺全向法官宣称他在这起诉讼案中，根本没有获得公平的对待。他还声称自己要求的“只是那么一丁点儿的保护，却得不到”。

拉维则抗议法庭只给文达星作开庭陈词，徐淑真甚至以自己半边脸肿、身体发烧，无法继续听审和做记录为理由，要求法庭在下午5时30分休庭，以让她有时间休息和看医生。她表示自己如果身体不适提前离开，就不知道审讯的进展。不过，文达星告诉她，她可向法庭要求一份审讯记录，方便她查阅，庭上也有速记员可以帮她抄录。

李资政在下午约四时来到法庭，当他的几名保镖出现在庭上时，徐顺全马上借题发挥，不断追问法庭为何允许这些不相干的人进入。

坐在证人栏里的李总理从头到尾目睹了这一切，不过他只是静静的看，神情淡然。在回答盘问的三个小时里，语气都保持平稳。李资政坐在诉方代表律师这一边，也目睹法庭审讯的过程。

总理在回答徐顺全的盘问时，透露他因不知道盘问所需时间有多长，所以向国会议长请假，昨天不出席国会。

到了下午约5时35分，在徐淑真再次申诉身体不适后，法官接受了她的要求，下令休庭，今天上午10时继审。

http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp080527_509_2.shtml

28.05.2008

Atobe SG

Some of ''dialect speaking uncles and aunties'' can understand English.

Do u need a English test before we allow them go inside court ?

Yesterday,monday,there are organised crowd from Teck Ghee

area to support their own MP LHL.What is wrong with this?

Do u think NTUC or People Association cant mobilise many RC

,CCC or CC to Q up early morning to fill up every single seats

in public gallery?Every RC just send 1 man is more than enough.

Do u think Lees need this kind of hit under the belt tactcis?

Do u think all seats occupied by PAP etc will help Lees?

There is no organised crowd today lah...

2.I am sorry CSJ cried in court that SDP members could not

come in because they came late to Q up!!

The public were more eager than SDP to enter court room.

Today one SDP member was allowed by Judge sat

behind CSJ to take records.

But i dunt think he took much records with his lap top!!

3.Pl bear with my inability to state facts here.Did i tell u

I was there?

4.I appeal to relevant parties to post transcripts of these 3 days

open hearing on web site.Then we can see true colors of

all parties!

5.ZAOBAO news as reference

李总理：　起诉徐顺全等人为表清白

（2008-05-27）

李总理在庭上指出，他认为徐顺全是一个撒谎者和骗子，让新加坡的反对党人蒙羞，他也知道徐顺全痛恨新加坡领导人，但他个人并不痛恨徐顺全。

他说，新加坡政府是以廉洁诚信、任人唯贤和以效能治国，而不是贪图权力和有贪念。

的名誉赔偿额进行公开审讯。

根据一般民事诉讼案，上诉过程需要三至六个月的时间，但法官拒绝了这些要求，并裁定在下午2时30分于第4B庭开庭审讯。

李资政在下午约四时来到法庭，当他的几名保镖出现在庭上时，徐顺全马上借题发挥，不断追问法庭为何允许这些不相干的人进入。

总理在回答徐顺全的盘问时，透露他因不知道盘问所需时间有多长，所以向国会议长请假，昨天不出席国会。

到了下午约5时35分，在徐淑真再次申诉身体不适后，法官接受了她的要求，下令休庭，今天上午10时继审。

http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp080527_509_2.shtml

28.05.2008

Was there a campaign in Teck Ghee to organise the residents to flood the public gallery in the court to support the Lees, or were these uncles and aunties from Tanjong Pagar ?

Surprisingly they did not appear in the previous High Court proceedings that LKY and GCT took against CSJ - as the issues were not as scandalous compared to the issues now which the SDP had drawn parallels between NKF and the Singapore Government.

As matters stand, the lawyer for the plaintiffs had worked hard to strike out almost all of the evidence that the Chee siblings have prepared in their own defense, and with the plaintiff's lawyer practically obstructing the Chee siblings from further verbal cross-examination of MM and PM - is there any need for this trial to even be conducted ?

Is this not another political show trial ?

Incidentally, if you must post a Chinese newsprint - can you have the courtesy to provide a translation for the benefit to those who do not read chinese - especially our fellow Singaporean Indian, Malay and Eurasian Communities ?

You could also show some objectivity by also quoting from non-Partisan news sources - such as foreign reports instead of depending for your purpose only the news reports coming from the Singapore Press Holdings and Singapore Broadcast Media.

maurizio13 SG

'lionnoisy' were you in court today to witness the proceedngs ?

If you were not in court today, how would you know if CSJ description of LKY's arrival was a lie ?

Do you know that it is very unusual for two plaintiffs to be present in court at the same time - when one is giving evidence under cross-examination and when the other plaintiff has still not been cross-examined in court ?

Even in the Subordinate Court, no one can simply barge in when the court is in session, let alone a body-guard gate crashing and approaching the Judge's bench without permission ?

Did the body guard bow to the bench and ask permission to approach the bench ?

Who is this body-guard to be so arrogant when his civil service grade is lower than the judge ?

Surely this is a clear contempt of court ?

Clearly court proceedings are not followed, if MM LKY is allowed to sit in when PM LHL is giving evidence - as MM has still not been cross-examined by the Attorney for the Defendants, and should not be listening in during LHL statements under cross-examintion - for obvious reasons. .

Is the Law equally applied ?

In the dynastic history of China, when a magistrate is persiding over a case, it's not uncommon for the Empress, Emperor, Princes and Dukes to supervise the magistrate in charge. Just in case, the magistrate makes any judgement that is against the interest of the royal family.

It's no surprise that this issue has crop up, afterall aren't we a dynastic empire. We should be happy that we no longer have to keep pigtails and bow on all 4s when greeting our Emperor.

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