sgforums govt critics = taiwan govt critics

january SG

I realize this similiarity. Always full of theories and stories and saying this and that. If you got see before taiwan media poltics shows, you see the so called many experts...

anyway... i hope readers dun get sway into "govt sucks and is corrupt" mentality so easy by the posts in this forum. I myself comes from quite poor to average family income. My income , is also, well poor too, at 1 to 1.5 k by singpore standards.

Govt surely needs to have improvments and surely have problems. I do not agree that we have reached conclusions that govt is corrupt and stupid. These critics are just blinded by the strength of the govt. I hope that these critics are just the minority in singapore.

These critics appeal mostly to poor to average income people becus well, we have little savings so its tough on these people, especailly when you see others richer than you. These arguemnts are so one sided and chose to ignore the reasons given by govt. Instead, the counter arguments from govt instead propel them to confirm their idea that govt is corrupt and stupid.

The inefficiency and errors of govt is best to solve within, Where most PAP people and mid level leaders are voicing their argument about various issues within the government.

january SG

govt is corrupt and stupid theories are like conspiracy theories... these people can really become hollywood or bollywood scriptwriters with the amount of imaginative reasoning they have.

Poh Ah Pak SG

So Singapore government is wise and clean?

Poh Ah Pak SG

Sgforums govt critics = taiwan govt critics

Sgforum critics can never be like taiwan govt critics.

Taiwan critics are in the mainstream media.

Their propaganda power is strong and far reaching.

PAP regime won't allow the same here.

Want to sing praises, yes.

Criticise, no.

You think Lee Kuan Yew will allow?

http://www.feer.com/free-interviews/2006/

http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp

Lee Kuan Yew will not agree to that.

january SG

ya.. if you all are allow to mainstream media.. hell will break lose

Poh Ah Pak SG

Either he die or we die.

kramnave SG

Either he die or we die.

He still alive, why you haven't die ?

Poh Ah Pak SG

According to Tan Wah Piow:

So you think the PAP can't capture the people's attention? But there have been efforts since the 80's to get the people to be involved.

Wah Piow: What they are doing appears to be extremely progressive in getting more public participation. There are a lot of those institutions for the old and young but the underlying motive behind is still the hegemony of one party, which is what distorts the whole process.

If you challenge the decision of the state, you will be accused of all kinds of things. They will undermine you before you start.

The moment they smell that you have the opposition tendency, they will mark you and if you are really an oppositionist, then you will get into serious problems.

If you exist as an individual, they can tolerate you as an eccentric, tolerate in the sense that they won't put you in jail. The moment they sense (you are) organising, then you are in deep trouble...

http://www.littlespeck.com/informed/2006/CInformed-060827.htm

If you want to oppose Lee Kuan Yew and PAP, they will hunt you down and wipe you out.

See whether you dare to oppose Lee Kuan Yew, PAP and their dictates or not.

Spartans SG

Sometimes, and I reiterate, sometimes, to get things done, democracy has to take a step back.

To gain something usually is accompanied by loss of something else.

But but but the Lees have crossed over the line too often.

balance_else_complacent SG

To TS specifically,

by comparing the PORE with the TW,

I know there is no need to read further your post.

Its like comparing mee siam with rocket science - totally unrelated.

You attempt to spread some message but due to your illogical comparison, there is no need to consider this post at all, so as not to waste precious time.

extra one SG

Either he die or we die.

y police still havent catch u?

oxford mushroom SG

He still alive, why you haven't die ?

haha....Poh Ah Pak, if LKY continues to live, live, live...then you have to die, die, die :)

oxford mushroom SG

To TS specifically,

by comparing the PORE with the TW,

I know there is no need to read further your post.

Its like comparing mee siam with rocket science - totally unrelated.

You attempt to spread some message but due to your illogical comparison, there is no need to consider this post at all, so as not to waste precious time.

You haven't explained why the TS is wrong in his/her comparison. Just another brainless critic of the government...exactly the kind of people the TS was talking about.

balance_else_complacent SG

You haven't explained why the TS is wrong in his/her comparison. Just another brainless critic of the government...exactly the kind of people the TS was talking about.

Has the ERP solved terrafic congestione?

I must say yes.

where to buy doggie biscuits for my poodles which like to lick me boots clean clean like a slave huh?

hloc SG

Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:

Either he die or we die.

Bro..... I agree with the others. Bad example you are giving

Originally posted by extra one:

y police still havent catch u?

Police aren't as 'Free' as you think........ and there isn't a 'LAW' that saids you can't 'WISH' a person to die.... only one against you trying to kill that person by yourself or someone else.....

drawer SG

ya.. if you all are allow to mainstream media.. hell will break lose

Yawnzz.....Hell will really break lose if critics from the public are allowed on the mainstream media,or our PAP leaders n some PAP ministers are narrow-minded n cant allow themselves to get criticised from the public on the media?There is a big difference,u know?

january SG

You haven't explained why the TS is wrong in his/her comparison. Just another brainless critic of the government...exactly the kind of people the TS was talking about.

Its rare to find a netizen who is on the same side as me.. at least in some sense...

I dunno whether you are PAP member with personal agenda... but its rare indeed becos in the net.. i usually one man standing when it comes to criticising the net critics who lambast the govt frequently.

balance_else_complacent SG

Its rare to find a netizen who is on the same side as me.. at least in some sense...

January = oxy.mron.

Atobe SG

Its rare to find a netizen who is on the same side as me.. at least in some sense...

LOL - do you think it is a relief for you to be in some good company with OM ?

Like the parasitic mushroom plant that he is, he will leech on you and abandon you like the typical mushroom when the host is dead and no longer useful.

Just like the Singapore Government method of leeching on the savings of every Singaporean, and leave them in their old age to the charity of other Singaporeans - while they extract their millions and throw away billions overseas.