Tibet was part of China since 1700,
previously known as Tu Fan, in 1751, the Manchurian government not
only recognized Tibet Dalai Lama as spiritual leader, but also as
political leader, similar to the Fan Wang
(蕃王,诸侯), but Tibet remains part of
China.
There was no problem until the end
days of Qing Dynasty. In the battle for supremacy in central
Asia, the Britist invaded Tibet, and occupied Lhasa in 1904. Qing
government was outraged but what could they do, they already lost
HK to the Brits, and Macau to the Portugese, the western armies had
burnt down the Summer Palace, and occupied much of the Chinese
coastal territories.
When the Brits empire came to its
end, it left Asia as a whole and gave independence to countries
like India and Pakistan, which fought again each other even until
today. May be some western political historians believe that the
Brits have given “independence” to Tibet as well.
Of course, when China government
became stronger, they claimed what was theirs, Tibet was part of
China, without any question. Unfortunately, the new government was
communists which was against religion, of any kinds, surely this
didn’t go down well in tibet. Since the end days of Qing dynasty,
China went through the rapes of the western imperial powers, WW2,
the unification of China was not without difficulties and certainly
struggles, even civil war. But no politicians should try to rewrite
history to their benefits.
Looking back at what the western
powers were doing in the continent of America, in the same period
when the Qing Dynasty was consolidating its territories. That was
the period when the heaven cried. The Qing government occupied the
land, but respected the local cultures including religion, the
whites not only took what was others for their own, they massacred
the indigenous people in their reform movement “killing the Indian
to save the man”. The Holocaust expert
David Cesarani have argued that the government and policies of the
USA against certain indigenous peoples constituted
genocide. and "in terms of the sheer numbers
killed, the native american genocide exceeds that of the
Holocaust". He quotes David Stannard, author of American
Holocaust.
In 1751 Chinese had already
officially recognised Dalai Lama in Tibet, the whites had not
stopped killing the Indians until 1800 (did they stopped there?)
and the Blacks continued to be their slaves till 1860. There is no
western moral high ground for judging Asia.
once upon a time, the US belonged to the british ... so by your
reasoning ... it's alright for the brits to claim back what
"belonged" to another ?. .... it is the alienable right of
people every where to be free and independant ... though it has
been 60 years, I think it's abundantly clear, that the tibetans are
unhappy and unsatisfied with chinese rule ...
I see you're another cultural chauvinist .... wat western moral
high ground ? .... invasion by force another country, another
independant political entitiy is wrong, pure and simple ... or you
think otherwise ? ....
did you read my argument in another thread? ... when you
bring up examples of "western hypocrisy"... isn't it like a kid
being caught cheating in a kindergarden spelling test ....
screaming "teacher teacher , he cheated also, her too, how come you
never catch them ! ... not fair ! "... right ? ... so in your
books, it's alright to invade by force, cos
other "western" countries did it too ? ....
I find it comical and stupid when people come and say double
standards are being applied when certain issues come up, be it fake
and dodgy goods or tibet .... it reminds me of those politicians
being caught farking another woman on tape ... screaming conspiracy
theories ... they completely miss the point ... shouldn't they be
blaming themselves for being peckerheads in the first place ? ...
instead of blaming others for being exposed ? .... don't point
fingers and say that everyone else is farking around when you get
caught ... just don't give other people any excuses ! .. don't keep
skeletons in your closets ! ....
mind you SGdiehard .... many in malaysia still believe Singapore
to be part of that country ... what do you say when one day they
want to come and reclaim back what is "theirs" ? ....