GIC invests $14 billion in Swiss bank UBS

last SG · 2007-12-12T22:13:51+00:00

i'm thinking of buying some UBS shares, what do u folks think?I asked for advice at www.secondopinion.asia and was told they do not advise on specific stocks...

eagle SG

You also know you only know how to repeat your own posts Laughing

So now we see your tactic all over again right? Putting out an old photocopy of your previous posts when you don't have the balls to answer questions right? In addition, with your poor analysis and research skills, how true do you think your post is? How many facts and posts have been you misunderstood and distorted? Laughing You could even put the links out for everyone to take a look you know? And I challenge you to do so. Do you have the balls to take up the challenge, post the links, and let everyone decide on how you like to do selective understanding? Or are you just as ball-less?

Laughing

Come on Gazelle, just as you have challenged so many people to answer your questions, you don't have the balls to answer just one question from me now?

eagle SG

I'm extremely tickled (from his selective understanding and distortion of facts and posts) by the life story of me he posted out Laughing so much so that I just have to share it with everyone, and to the point I put it in my siggy It was fun to have him spent 30 mins to compile everything for me to use less than a minute to put it in my siggy. Commendable effort by Gazelle

We see the same tactics by him over and over again when he cannot answer questions. Laughing You will see that he will continuously escape answering your questions when caught. Other than that, he will resort to name-calling (without any proof of his name-calling) when he knows he's at the losing end. So when you see him calling you names, you will know he is unable to defend himself anymore. Do you call this a sore loser? Mr. Green

Gazelle SG

Walesa,

By quoting what I said, it only goes to show that your perception of Temasek and GIC investment is like speculating on the stock markets where you can enter and exit anytime you want whenever the stock price is favourable. Beside talking about stock price, you have also failed to understand the longterm and strategic benefit in the investment.

If Temasek and GIC were to practise your speculative style of short term investment, GIC funds would have been long gone and they would have been banned from buying into blue chip companies long time ago.

By quoting the below statement, it only shows that you dont take into consideration the sequence of events that happened before and after the investment. Like I have said, armchair critics are only capable for demostrating how smart they are AFTER the event, not before.

Gazelle SG

Walesa, please dont conveniently avoid my question. You are the expert isnt it?

1) For Barclays investment, would you have predicted that RBS will pip Barclays in acquiring ABN Amro during the time when Temasek was planning to make the investment?

2) Suppose if Barclays submitted a higher bid than RBS in taking over ABN Amro, will that benefit Barclays stock price especially if we take into consideration ABN's billions worth of subprime related investment.

3) Is stock price the only yardstick to measure the value of Barclays investment? What about their track record in profit growth, dividend yield, and strategic benefits to enhance Singapore's position as financial hub?

walesa SG

Is that my perception or is that yours? Or are you confused again? Laughing It is indeed amazing that your deluded perception allows you to understand my style to be speculative by nature when you can't even address your own questions... Mr. Green You're probably such a rare gem that you'd still fail an exam even if you were allowed to set the questions.

Forget about your "before and after" analysis - you'd do well to address the above for a start instead of darting round what would have formed the crux of this discourse...

walesa SG

As a matter of fact, that quote wasn't directed at someone with a substandard intellect like yours. I'm still awaiting your response to your contradictory views before we engage in higher-level discussions...

Gazelle SG

Walesa,

your arguments are getting weaker over time and it starting to show your lack on understanding in invesment strategy.

Please tell us what do you know beside reading stock price?

eagle SG

Well, for someone of substandard intellect, it is not surprising that he claims the following

1) 2nd year of uni to 4th year of uni = 2 years of uni time Laughing => lacks simple mathematical skills

2) Study uni needs to pay both tuition fees and exam fees

3) Go to the gym need gym membership What is SSC and sch gyms for then? => lacks research before his allegations

4) Training up needs his so called "muscle-enhancing" pills to do so. Laughing => lacks nutritional knowledge and research before allegations

Since he lacks both analysis and research skills, do you think he can engage in higher-level discussions?

Gazelle SG

I know you know that I know you are incapable of answering to my questions and you are trying to big talk your way out of the situation.

typical wanker!!

Gazelle SG

Eagle, please stop trying to defend yourself because it will make you look more like a bloody sissy wanker.

Your $50,000 is worth nothing, and you should be ashame of yourself.

eagle SG

That is all you can say now after I have pointed out your so called simple maths and analysis? Laughing Gazelle, when all your nonsensical claims and analysis are out in the open, all you can do is to resort to name calling?

So tell me now, if it is worth nothing, why is it that you would spend so much time and effort to prove me wrong? You think $50k is a lot for a student?

Next, are you still unable to answer my question? You should be trying to defend you research and analysis skills now by showing me yours you know? Not trying to talk big like someone who knows everything, yet cower somewhere when wrong.

Gazelle SG

spare some thought for your lau peh when you talk about "your" $50,000.

You should he ashame of yourself.

eagle SG

everytime you talked about this, you should be ashamed of yourself because you cannot admit that your analysis sucks..

Again, I challenge you, are you to admit the loser in you if I can prove you wrong? If you cannot accept this simple challenge, you shouldn't even be talking about this Laughing

As you have said,

Laughing

walesa SG

Weaker? I'm still waiting for you to clarify your contradiction... Laughing Or is that another feeble ploy to divert attention from your ineptitude?

Gazelle SG

Walesa, please dont conveniently avoid my question. You are the expert isnt it?

walesa SG

This is just about the only thing you need to answer to get started. Coming any closer to shedding some light on your self-contradiction to get us started on the proper discussion?

Gazelle SG

Walesa, please dont conveniently avoid my question. You are the expert isnt it?

Originally posted by walesa:
[b]On a sidenote, how is the GIC's investment in UBS any better (or different) than Temasek's desperately ill-advised bid for Barclays just prior to the latter's bid for ABN Amro fell through?

walesa SG

Originally posted by Gazelle:
[b]Walesa, please dont conveniently avoid my question. You are the expert isnt it?

1) For Barclays investment, would you have predicted that RBS will pip Barclays in acquiring ABN Amro during the time when Temasek was planning to make the investment?

2) Suppose if Barclays submitted a higher bid than RBS in taking over ABN Amro, will that benefit Barclays stock price especially if we take into consideration ABN's billions worth of subprime related investment.

3) Is stock price the only yardstick to measure the value of Barclays investment? What about their track record in profit growth, dividend yield, and strategic benefits to enhance Singapore's position as financial hub?[color=red][/b]

Still awaiting you to clarify your hapless self-contradiction to get started... Rolling Eyes

Gazelle SG

walesa, it is obvious that you only talk about stock price isnt it? May I suggest that you join AndrewYap to be our daily reporter of stock market.. Laughing

knn...talk so much cock for what if you dont know how to fcuk.. Mr. Green

walesa SG

That's what your limited intellect permits you to think and it isn't exactly a very clever ploy at masking your inadequacies of an unrivalled propensity for self-contradiction...

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