Harrier / Lexus 300

last SG · 2004-02-23T15:25:27+00:00

harrier buyers are juz rx wannabes.. heh.. anyway, for a car that heavy, only a 3litre engine will do it justice.. else you'll be dragging metal and drinking...

tailslide SG

whoa. that car is heavy man. better to leave the RX 300 in the league of luxury SUVs rather then compare them with performance oriented vehicles. anyone who sat in the RX 300 and felt that it was the fastest car they ever drove obviously ain't know ish bout REAL performance.

AE86tofu SG

oh and u shld have read the papers on the Ad abt the volvo XC90....it was a few months ago lar....thats y i know that there's a mini fridge at the backseat(center handrest)

AE86tofu SG

luxury comes with a price wad...weight.....take my car 4 eg....crappy plastics and FAKE WOOD...ugh....result is that it's only 1450KG

euphratis SG

Why has it come down to a personal attack? Sorry I have never watched that show before & find it childish. When comparing I am referring to cc to cc. I am comparing Ferrari to Honda super car like NSX.

Armature will discount the theory of "man & machine" as they don't have that experience since they have not experience any racing circuit. ie. Simpang or Pasir Gudang Racing circuit. Car park racing.

Some factors to determined btn a winner & loser is the machine. Another factor if both are having same machine, then it will all boils down to the skill with experience drivers to evolve into man & machine. Going at the speed, you only have fraction of a seconds to think, react & make corrects. (i.e pressure on brake, gear shift at right rpm & etc)

Again running on a straight line does not take much skill but just mechanical challenge. A dragster will do the job. Good skill will be tested when a circuit has straights, bends & cornering.

I have gone to the Simpang when they PML organised a tour BMers & some Lexus joined. If you have been there, you will understand what is meant by refinement, holding & performance. The Lexus was way out of it league....

If true you understand history of the evolution of motor engine, variable value timing or commonly kind as VTEC in Honda or VVT Toyota is an old technology. The 1st variable value timing already existed in the 70's model of an Italian car....if you can guess the brand.

Yes, I own not a Ferrari but I frenz who own & have driven a few time (not on Singapore road). Least I have a M5 to be contented with.

Sorry I forget that skill is not require for car max speed is below 200km/hr.

[email protected] SG

much agreed dude.
and look at the way he conveniently ignored the OFFICIAL torque:weight ratio figures.

u look at it and u tell me, who is faster? RX300 or XC90? being someone who drives a sportcar, i am sure u know what the answer is. help me tell that ignoramus yah?

[email protected] SG

FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THOSE WHO ARE EITHER BRAIN DEAD OR BLIND, I WILL POST THE OFFICIAL TORQUE FIGURES HERE AGAIN. PLEASE READ THIS AND USE SOME COMMON SENSE TO JUDGE FOR YOURSELF WHICH IS TRUELY FASTER IN REAL LIFE. I CANNOT BE SPOON-FEEDING YOU EVERYTHING. YOU ARE NOT A BABY, YOU HAVE A DAMNED BRAIN FOR A REASON. NOW IF U WOULD JUST USE IT AND THINK AND ANALYSE THESE FIGURES FOR A SECOND U WILL KNOW WHY THE XC90 IS FASTER THAN THE RX300( AND IT IS NOT BECAUSE THE MAGAZINE IS BIASED. BIASED IS YOU PEEPS WHO INSIST THE RX300 IS FASTER AND BETTER AND BLAH BLAH IN SPITE OF THE FACTS AND FIGURES LAID OUT HERE FOR YOU TO SEE AND IN SPITE OF LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE.)

figures:

RX300: max torque: [email protected](too pathetically high)
152.15Nm/tonne

Touareg: max torque: [email protected]
137.70Nm/tonne

XC90: max torque: [email protected](1500! amazingly low!)
156.40Nm/tonne(BETTER THAN THE RX300'S)

[email protected] SG

double

euphratis SG

tell it to them HENG@.......ppl alway think 1 way – BHP but never consider other factors like torque, [email protected] & etc.

trlnlty SG

er... please tell me which post have i said that the lexus is more powerful than the volvo?

hm.. guess not..

i said that the lexus is faster than the volvo on PAPER.

i told you where i got my stats from, you told me where you got yours from

mine is an official website from BOTH car companies. yours is from a singapore mag Rolling Eyes

so, until volvo changes its stats, i dont see how a mag can be more reliable than the company who MADE the car.

mmmk?

trlnlty SG

and your point is? ....??

trlnlty SG

riding his sack much?

trlnlty SG

so u think the xc is a perfomance oriented vehicle?

AE86tofu SG

facts are facts…..Stop being so biased against the vehicle…there are always better cars…Unless u own a mclaren F1 that is….until then…stop saying that the car is good etc….I’m sure it has its merits…but facts ARE facts…If I own an XC90 I’d glady take on yr RX300….

[email protected] SG

MR MORON.
I GOT THE TORQUE FIGURES FROM THE OFFICIAL FIGURES FROM THE CAR COMPANIES U KEEP HARPING ABOUT. NOW WHAT HAVE U GOT TO SAY?

AND I SAY AGAIN. U ARE JUST TOO NARROW MINDED TO REALISE THE TRUE WORLD OF AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY, WHERE EMISSION STANDARDS, POLITICAL POLICIES AND COMPANY RULES OFTEN UNDER QUOTES THE TRUE PERFORMANCE OF A VEHICLE. LIKE I SAID, DO U BELIEVE THE STOCK SKYLINE GT-R34 IS ONLY 276BHP?

I WOULD TRUST THE MAG ANYTIME BECAUSE IT'S ONLY REASON FOR EXISTANCE IS TO BRING THE RAW TRUTH TO US, THE READERS. I HAVE REPEATED THIS FACT FOR AT LEAST 2 TIMES.

I AM WONDERING IF U EVEN BOTHER TO READ MY POSTS.

[email protected] SG

U HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY?

LET ME ASK YOU. WHY DO U KEEP IGNORING THE OFFICIAL TORQUE FIGURES THAT I HAVE LISTED TO PROVE THAT THE VOLVO IS INDEED FASTER?

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT!
THIS TRINITY DUDE DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE UNDERSTOOD ANYTHING I'VE SAID ABOUT TORQUE FIGURES!

HE DOESN'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGES IT! HE JUST IGNORES THEM!

WHAT HE DOES IS KEEP QUOTING THE 0-100 TIME ONLY! AND THAT IS ON PAPER!

WHEN TESTED IT IN REAL LIFE(DO U UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN REAL LIFE? OR DO U SIMPLY LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD???), THE VOLVO BEAT THE RX300!
WTF IS WRONG WITH U? DO U FAIL TO CONSDER THAT THE VOLVO PEOPLE HAVE SIMPLY UNDERQUOTED THEIR 0-100 TIMING FOR THE XC90?

OR IS YOUR BIASEDNESS FOR THE RX300 SO DEEP THAT IT HAS BLINDED U TO LOGIC AND REASON?

GO AND READ THE DAMN TORQUE FIGURES CAREFULLY, THEN COME AND USE YOUR BEST LOGIC TO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE RX300 CAN BE FASTER.

AND STOP ASKING WHERE I GOT THOSE FIGURES FROM. THOSE ARE THE DAMN OFFICIAL FIGURES. CAN U SEE? DO U HAVE ANY BLOODY EYES? WHY ARE U SIMPLY IGNORING THE TORQUE FIGURES?

IS THAT YOUR WAY OF AVOIDING A CRITICAL ISSUE AND FACTOR? SIMPLY HARP ABOUT VOLVO'S INACCURATE FIGURES?

GOD CAN U PLEASE START USING YOUR DAMN BRAIN?!

tailslide SG

did i mention anything bout the XC90 in my post? clear that humungous piece of bird shit from your eyes.... pls. Rolling Eyes

[email protected] SG

argh... tailslide!!!
that moron's gonna burst one of my veins soon!
he does not have any birdShit in his eyes... HE HAS NO FARKING EYES AT ALL!

tailslide SG

i really dun see any redeeming point in continuing this thread. For the benefit of either the lexus, or volvo supporter, all i can say is that facts will be facts, figures will be figures. alot of claims on paper looks good. take for eg. the lancer mivec rated at 175 hps vs the civic Sir rated at 170 ps. on paper, the mivec looks good, but in reality, the Sir trounces the mivec in performance. vis a vis, it is often more fruitful to take the results gotten from real life comparisons then to allow the facts on paper to delude us. crystal? Wink

[email protected] SG

very clearly said.
if that doesn't get thru to his thick skull i dunno wad will.

tailslide SG

a bullet? a hydraulic drill? a jack hammer? gamma particles? hammer and chisel? Rolling Eyes

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