14-yrs Singaporeans boys to be flogged publicly

last SG · 2008-01-29T21:53:42+00:00

Yeah. GET 'EM!WTF. They actually attempt such an act.If I were the parent of the student, I think if school don't flog them in public, I'll do so in public.

sbst275 SG

Attempt or alrdy did it does not matter

You alrdy harboured the thought of doing such acts

kramnave SG

tio cane is all parts and parcels of boys' life in sec sch rite?

My Sec School no caning but primary school have. Stupid things like fighting and destroying school pond/garden tio public caning liao. Attempt to film teacher upskirt neva kena expelled considered heng liao loh, public caning is nothing man. Then again, public caning for fighting last time people feel quite hero. Public caning for these pervs....think they will feel that they are the lowest form of life and i think they deserve it.

rlsh07 SG

Attempt or alrdy did it does not matter

You alrdy harboured the thought of doing such acts

yeah that's right that is why i say that lo. sigh. i meant it as whether attempt it or not , it's wrong la. that is why i say out the example of the assassin mah. hmm.. do u get it now?

phil30k SG

I think the important thing is for the school not to make a big deal of it.

It will be humiliating enough to be caned that the boys will not do it again as that's the kind of punishment reserved for little children who can't reason things out for themselves.

Overly dramatising it is not going to work out well.

<Precious> SG

I'm all for these pupils to be flogged publicly. All this fear about the boys being scarred psychologically is over-protecting them. Whack the shee-it outta them I say!

If we don't hammer these kids to shape now, they'll never learn their lesson. And when they repeat their errant ways when they are grown up, society will punish them even more severely.....

dumbdumb! SG

I'm all for these pupils to be flogged publicly. All this fear about the boys being scarred psychologically is over-protecting them. Whack the shee-it outta them I say!

If we don't hammer these kids to shape now, they'll never learn their lesson. And when they repeat their errant ways when they are grown up, society will punish them even more severely.....

i don't think its overprotecting them leh. i think its good to evaluate why do we punish someone.

is it to enact justice so that the victim will feel at peace?

is it to condition the perp of his wrongdoing so that he knows that it was wrong?

is it to use them as examples to "kill the chicken to scare the monkey"?

i think the only good reasons to punish someone is to let him know that his actions are not acceptable and to allow the victim to have some sense of peace and justice. until the perp realises that what he does is wrong, he's going to do it again, and again and again.

how many times can you publically flog someone? it only works once, because it is inefficient once he is numbed to the attention, or he grows to like the attention.

kids will be kids, they're going to be idiots, and teenagers will be teenagers, always wanting to prove their worth and bravado. the worrying part is whether they will mature and be responsible adults. and i'm not sure public humiliation is a step towards that path.

i agree that they should be flogged, but not publically.

purpledragon84 SG

i don't think its overprotecting them leh. i think its good to evaluate why do we punish someone.

is it to enact justice so that the victim will feel at peace?

is it to condition the perp of his wrongdoing so that he knows that it was wrong?

is it to use them as examples to "kill the chicken to scare the monkey"?

how many times can you publically flog someone? it only works once, because it is inefficient once he is numbed to the attention, or he grows to like the attention.

i agree that they should be flogged, but not publically.

maybe it shud be done like in the adult world.. announce that they will be caned, but do it behind closed doors, like only teachers see.. den can serve the purpose of let the student guai guai and the teacher feel justice served..

and if the students do it again, 2nd or 3rd offence, den make it public..

that will be better.. no?

rlsh07 SG

and if the students do it again, 2nd or 3rd offence, den make it public..

that will be better.. no?

you want to wait till it happen again then do something abt it? won't that be too late though.

purpledragon84 SG

you want to wait till it happen again then do something abt it? won't that be too late though.

hmm.. den we must make sure the 1st caning that was done behind closed doors is 1 x jialat jialat for them le.. it must be a freaking damn terrible experience for them to remember by.. since there was no humiliation to let them remember their wrongdoings by, the pain factor must kick in liao..

that way they wun 2nd time.. and if they 2nd time, den make it public lo..

like that will have the effect of "upgrade" the experience mah.. singapore everything oso must upgrade..

dumbdumb! SG

you want to wait till it happen again then do something abt it? won't that be too late though.

like what? rape?

there's always risks involved when you show grace and give benefits of the doubt.

in this case, i give them the benefit of the doubt that they're not young demented perverts role-playing rape fantasies in their head, but they're just trying to show off how brave they are and just being naughty.

i mean, what's the use of public humiliation. for example in USA, child molesters are profiled publically, not to shame them, but to allow people around them to safeguard their kids, in case things do go wrong.

so you really have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of punishing them publically?

if you're saying to educate them from their wrongdoings, i think caning is good enough.

soleachip SG

I say flog em!

rlsh07 SG

like what? rape?

there's always risks involved when you show grace and give benefits of the doubt.

so you really have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of punishing them publically?

i guess i',m glad i dun have to be a judge though because can't say it's wrong or it's right. it's a decision that was made at that point of time though.

dumbdumb! SG

i guess i',m glad i dun have to be a judge though because can't say it's wrong or it's right. it's a decision that was made at that point of time though.

well, its good to consider how we would choose to act if we were in the shoes of the principal, or the judge, making the unpleasant call.

because one day, we might have to make that call.

i just feel that, there's a reason why there's a yellow ribbon project. would you want to be forever be branded a pervert because you were naughty at the age of 10? sure, kids make dumb mistakes. they don't think before they act, that's why they're kids. that's how they learn. personally, flogging publically is a small issue la. i'm just saying that after all that, give them a chance to walk life on a clean slate.

don't brand anyone who made a mistake and forever remind them of it. unless they're idiots.

rlsh07 SG

well, its good to consider how we would choose to act if we were in the shoes of the principal, or the judge, making the unpleasant call.

because one day, we might have to make that call.

don't brand anyone who made a mistake and forever remind them of it. unless they're idiots.

i would say dun judge but yet be discerning

dumbdumb! SG

i would say dun judge but yet be discerning

sometimes situation calls for you to judge la. one reason for punishment is to give the victim a sense of justice and peace, remember?

but after issuing the punishment, its impt to also allow the perp a chance to live life on a clean slate.

rlsh07 SG

sometimes situation calls for you to judge la. one reason for punishment is to give the victim a sense of justice and peace, remember?

but after issuing the punishment, its impt to also allow the perp a chance to live life on a clean slate.

have to see if the person will turn over a new leaf i guess. hmm.. some decisions are some judgements are real hard to make though. dun u think so?

BrUtUs SG

wa tats too light sentence liao... they should feel the same how rapist felt when they got caned... therefore the sch should use tougher punishment so these boyz will learn... all the protecting will only spoil them... their punishment should be made known to the parents who sent their kids in same school too...

WinnieThePooh SG

Serve them right. Your quote is unfair to the school management, as you dont give the full story.

dumbdumb! SG

might as well just give everyone the death sentence.

how can give punishment for rape on naughty kids?

dumbdumb! SG

have to see if the person will turn over a new leaf i guess. hmm.. some decisions are some judgements are real hard to make though. dun u think so?

yep. its hard to balance grace and judgement.

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