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last SG · 2007-12-28T09:51:31+00:00

... if you want to convince someone, yes, you have to be logical, rational, form valid arguments… but if people just want to let out steam… I don’t see a pro...

qlqq9 SG

The example you quoted above is sad story but is happening in the real world. There must be a way for people to let out steam lah, if not the stress level will increase and health will be affected.

qlqq9 SG

Really, then put your words in action. Go have dinner at Centrepoint at 6pm today in black, show the PAP we are not happy with they way they are.

sgdiehard SG

will you be there?

SpeedStar SG

I hate to mention but u are one of the maggots that I dislike to comment. And u know u are on which side right? Its not hard to find out based on ur past post.

There are things I do not like about the government, but there are also things i like to praise them for doing.

As for the protest, I suggest u go and fly kite. What can u do by wearing the bloody black? To show them u are unhappy and they will do what u like? What can u gain from these? I know there is nothing much u can do sometimes when the goverment makes a decision, but suggestion like this make me feels its like distrupting the peacefulness of our society. Will u offer the same suggestion when the goverment makes a decision u dont like? Correct me if I am wrong.

Ok last post for me here, I cant stand talking to ppl with both sides. From the beginning of the discussion, I can already sense what will they respond to the post. Shall not reply again. And guys enjoy ur "discussion", I go out and enjoy myself Laughing

SpeedStar SG

Well i share the same point with u. Too bad, some of the ppl just have the mindset crave in their head. But at least the views from the different parties offer a different kind of view, and sometimes, its entertaining Laughing

qlqq9 SG

Don't come to this forum at all, you seems angry with everyone and think you need anger management. I am being nice just to suggest about the dinner at Centrepoint, but you are so damn evil to say allsort of things about people. See that you only talk and talk and not interested to put into action. There is no point discussing with you for you have preconcepts in your mind, why waste time talking to you. Don't expect us to agree with your everything. You are a person who shut people off, if you are so damn good, go start your own forum. Talk talk talk, when people put into action, you are not happy, when people talk you are not happy. Ni huo de fei chang bu nai fan! Pathetic!

qlqq9 SG

Yes. So will you condemn me and people who go? Speedstar is not happy about this.

CX SG

Aiya, mouth belongs to other pple... let them say what they want lah...

In the same way, its your body Mr. Green so go do what u want...

I don't see it as disturbing public peace lor... But it also feels a bit futile to me lah... Just my view.

qlqq9 SG

Like that the person considers disturbing peace, then what about the protest from the Myanmar people here. Any way, there is no need to talk and do things to suit this unkind chap. He is extremely hard to please.

It has to start somewhere for people to express themselves in action rather than just talk. Marching on the street to protest is disallowed here. As far as possible, these people are doing it in a peaceful way not to disrupt anything any peace and ensure there is order. Why do you suggest if you think this is futile?

(human) SG

Don't you know the master of the PAP running dogs only want to hear more praise instead of complain, therefore they have thier s h i t ty time the the mediacorpses praising thier master most of the time. And here you can hear the PAP dog barking complaining people are complaining here. Mr. Green

CX SG

Please read through some of the pages and see how many are in praise of the ruling party.

CX SG

Because nothing will change from an isolated few wearing black on a random weekend.

I agree that this form of public display is non disruptive and not illegal, but it is also without agenda (other than aesthetic display) and purpose.

I would suggest that if there is a core following, they should blog it and promote it so that at least pple know about it cos I'm pretty sure that mediacorp won't cover it.

Anyway, I find it real weird cos pple (particularly singaporeans) are so easily drawn towards the pointless, like "flash mobs" and queuing up for hello kitty dolls and bak kua, but they have no spine where political convictions are concerned.

qlqq9 SG

You hit the nail on the head, good! There is this particular one condemns people complaining and said he disagrees with the way of PAP but when credit is due he wil give credit. He is against people organising Black Saturday and the wear black have dinner at Centrepoint today saying that these disrupt peace. Sounds like PAP's running dog.

qlqq9 SG

It is announced in Sammyboy forum. Their purpose is to let the pap knows there are people who are not happy. This is a form of expression in itself, just like people come to this forum and view their views and unhappiness about the gahmen. The only difference is other than speaking, they put in action to show their displeasure, there is nothing wrong. There are far too many people who keep talking but do nothing when others put into action they are not happy. I admire people who talk and also put into action, talk alone is cheap!

royston_ang SG

I see the complain as a form of feedback abt what is happening in real life.

The ST usually side with gov and report favorably on all gov policy. For example, during the GST increase, I find most of the article in the ST repeating the gov reasoning for the increase or even on ppl praising the gov for the increase! But hardly any arctile on how the increase burden the average Singaporean. Such reporting will give the average ppl a false impression that the gov is indeed doing a great job!

The local media keep saying the economy is recovering, jobless rate is low. But how much of this is true? How much of the job go to Singaporean? You definitely can't find answer in our local media.

qlqq9 SG

Local media is controlled by PAP. Talking about GST increase, the CNA stated that shoppers and retailers not affected by kick off of GST hike. This is obviously propaganda and untrue. How can this be? People who read, watch and listen to local press, TV and radio and believe them all are just blind and dumb.

royston_ang SG

But like TS said, people shouldn't complain. If there are no complain, and the local media reporting only on the partial truth, you can't blame the average ppl to be deceived to really believe the media and support the gov policy.

Father Lim SG

this kind of stuff doesn't really help in political discourse does it??
it doesn't really put across your point and just attracts more flaming...
wouldn't it be better to rephrase it in more suitable terms...

some of the threads down here degenerate to character attacks and mudslinging ... it doesn't really help in putting your point across does it??

n.b. i expect to be flamed even though i have done my best not be make this personal to anyone...

PRP SG

Eagle's comment is quite right.Besides comments & criticism,we need support & agreement too.Comment is to destroy or to change (not easy to achieve).Support is to build.We need to 'build' something for the country and for each others (morale support).

fishbuff SG

it is a very different story when u are dealing with
- working 50+ hours a week in private sector,
- dealing with bosses and colleagues,
- face shitty customers,
- beat traffic jams on public transportation to service customers,
- trying to feed a family with school kids with a meer $3k/mth,
- days and nights u think about losing your job and get replaced, especially when u are 40-50.
- worry whether your kids will through the same difficult situation.
- cant get uni education.. struggled with night school every mon, wed, fri...
- losing job = cant pay mortgage = cant pay kids' education = wife mad at you = marital breakdown

ask your dad or uncles.. im sure they will face similar predicament as listed above.

how i wish i can go thru' full time studies in sg uni. instead i have to work full time, study part time for my advance diploma, degree and master while holding full time job and support family on both side, and i never earn more than $2k/mth before 30 years old.

u have the blessing of intelligence, good family background and education opportunities which people in my age group will die for, cherish it!

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