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last SG · 2007-12-02T00:02:49+00:00

Read the full report then talk to me. See if you can access this. http://www.springerlink.com/content/r705027j141r1n20/fulltext.pdf Until then, we have not...

Demonight SG

quid pro quo..maybe you should share an interesting experience with her before she posts some quotes Wink

fymk SG

...for yourself and decide for yourself. Like I said, go down to NUS library and look for it. That is if you are actually interested in...is happening. I do believe that MOE has a library the public can access but that was years ...

LazerLordz SG

Originally posted by fymk: Like I said, go down to NUS library and look for it. That is if you are actually ... I do believe that MOE has a library the public can access but that was ... able to state what you need to use the libraries for.

fymk SG

They used lichens as bioatmospheric monitors/indicators of heavy metal pollution in the air in certain areas of Singapore.

If you wish to understand more , I am sure that MOE will have subscribed to the journal.

I prefer it more if you all just go and read the whole article then come back and discuss it .

Want to read it - go to the MOE or NUS library. Simple. Whole picture better than part picture like newspaper sensationalised clippings.

Gazelle SG

You are repeating what we already know leh..care tell us something we dont know?

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=18344735

fymk SG

The article states clearly that there are pollution in certain industrialised areas of Singapore which Sghardie is disputing. Sghardie is claiming that there is NO (meaning zero) pollution at all in Singapore and that those fuel plants do not cause pollution at all.

Originally posted by sgdiehard:
...... For many years the refineries have been in operation here, many have expanded several times, if there is any pollution even your father would have been affected by now.

Today, the most likihood of pollution from refineries come from accidents. There are even extensive safeguard against human error or negligence. Don't talk something you have absolutely no idea about.

Now my question to you : Do you agree with his statement that refineries do not cause pollution at all or do not create pollution ?

The Yes or No answer is only required of you.

fymk SG

ah ya , all of us in this thread including you know about it but sghardie doesn't.

Gazelle SG

a) I dont recall sgdiehard claiming that there are zero pollution, do you mind quoting the concerning statement.

b) The abstact from internet, specifically mentioned that heavy petroleum and shipping industries, and road traffic are all big contributor to pollution, can I know why you only highlight that people living in Jurong west will suffer? what about people living next to the highway or close to shipping industry?
Care to tell us which is biggest contributor of pollution among the 3?

fymk SG

Look at the quotes again .

He is asking for proof that refineries do cause pollution

So let me rephrase : do refineries cause pollution or not?

Yes or no. Yes if you agree with him as in below:

Originally posted by sgdiehard:

Dont bother to comment. I am really not interested unless you have anything to prove that refineries operation in singapore is causing pollution.

OR No if you do not.

Gazelle SG

asking you to provide proof that refinery cause harmful pollution as you claim is not equal to saying that refinery produce zero pollution.

Is there any reason why you are not answering my question regarding which is the biggest sources of pollution in Singapore?

fymk SG

No. by his words, he stated pollution - and he denied that there was pollution caused by the refineries.

There is no reason - I told you already to read the paper and judge for yourself. The answer is in the full report with the detail of analysis .

If you cannot be bothered to look for the whole paper - then why ask me ?

Gazelle SG

Since you are choose to quote this research paper in your claim that refinery is harmful to people living in jurong west, I am sure you must have some facts to support your argument isnt it?

unless you are telling me that:-

a) You have never seen this report before
b) You dont have access to this report
c) You are lying about having them and using copyright law to avoid answering to my question.

I hope not, because that will be very embarrassing.

fymk SG

If I am lying , I would not tell people to go and look for the full paper in the library , would I? There are plenty of uni students lurking in the forums who can easily access the paper online.

My main inference is simple - it adds to the pollution factor areas surrounding Jurong Island and Tuas - where is the nearest towns ? Jurong and Boon Lay.

If those lichens are absorbing those heavy metals from the air - what do you think people there are breathing?

There is another paper in Social Indicators Research on residents in Jurong West which state pretty clearly about what some residents think of the air quality there.

Daddy!! SG

the worst polluters in the world trying to teach pollution

fymk SG

Start a new thread on Australia and pollution then. This topic is on Singapore at the moment . That's my suggestion to you .

Gazelle SG

1) Having plenty of NUS uni student in this forum doesnt neccessary means that you you will definitely have access to the article because you are not and never was a NUS student.

2) I am sure there are plenty of reseach and studies done on air pollution, but what I am more interested to know is what fact do you have to support your arguement that refinery in Singapore is harmful for people living in Jurong and boon lay.

3) Why specifically talk about oil refinery only? What about shipping industries and traffic pollutions highlighted in the report? Are you saying that refinery is the biggest contributor?

Daddy!! SG

i am simply amazed that really got people that shameless.

fymk SG

For question 1: Simple fact about most reputable universities and NUS being one of them - they will subscribe to superdatabases and make it accessible to their students regardless of the discipline. Heck , the two Australian universities I studied in make these superdatabases available to their students. I expect nothing less of NUS.

For question 2: I was commenting about environmental impact management. If you bothered to look back at the posts - I was commenting to Lazerlord and sghardie jumped in denying the facts that there is pollution.

For question 3: Because sghardie chose to ask me to prove that the refineries cause pollution. I am merely going along with his focus. I am pretty sure any secondary school student knows the answer.

So my question to you : Yes or No again . Do refineries create pollution? We are going to come back to it.

fymk SG

Now tell me : Do refineries cause pollution?

We are talking about Singapore now. If I want to talk about Australia - I usually go to Australian forums or enter a thread which pinpoints it.

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