Believe in science & ethics

last SG · 2007-08-17T14:02:49+00:00

The scope of science is very wide.It includes social sciences such as sociology,psychology and politics.

AndrewPKYap SG

If other people do it, they will not have delusions in their heads. You refuse to do it, the delusions in your head remains. You think that I am asking you to do it for the sake of other people? Rolling Eyes Another Delusion.

soul_rage SG

The stupid monkey is continuing his rant.

Now his postings doesn't make any more sense, after losing completely and exposing his total ignorance of Science and of Ethics.

Maybe I should just toss the banana to him to end his misery.

Very Happy

AndrewPKYap SG

Lose the debate and resort to name calling? Delusional and stupid not bad enough for you? You want everyone to know that you have no self-control as well? Rolling Eyes

soul_rage SG

ok let's end it here

*tosses banana to monkey*

Laughing

AndrewPKYap SG

Laughing Rolling Eyes

AndrewPKYap SG

So the moral of the story is, there is no problem if you do not know and do not understand.

You can ask and you can clarify. You can try to understand.

When you do not know and do not understand, don't try to pretend to be smart or else you will only expose your stupidity, your delusions and your lack of self control for all to see.

soul_rage SG

This IS the moral of Andrew's insane antics Smile Fancy a stupid monkey trying to summarize his stupidity and delusional actions.

"Yes Andrew, you did imply Ethics is delusional.

Mathematics have proven that your statement "If there is no proof or evidence, its delusional" applies to Ethics

Since you can't prove ethics, ethics is a delusion to you.

Want more?
1) Philosophies are subjective. There is no one single philosophy that is correct or wrong
2) Ethics is a philosophy. Therefore Ethics is subjective.
3) Science, with its requirement for proof or evidence, is objective
4) Andrew's statement, "If there is no proof or evidence, its delusional", means in Mathematics that ANYTHING that has no proof or evidence is delusional.
5) Since Ethics is subjective, it cannot be proven by any scientific method, therefore based on point (4), ethics is delusional.

No wonder you cannot understand something called Respect of Fellow Humans (which is an ethic), since Ethics to you is delusional. With your rude and obnoxious behavior, no matter how good you are with your head at certain fields, you will never be able to succeed in whatever you do, coz you do not respect others.

Feel free to argue some more. You CANNOT win Mathematics. And to date, aside from ranting about how good Science is, you haven't shown yourself to know any field of Science at all.

Go ahead to Laughing or Rolling Eyes , that's all you can contribute to this thread. Stupidity at its absolute, arguing against Mathematics. Its like saying 1+1 is not 2 but its 3."

The more he talks the more stupidity is revealed

Go back to Politics. You belong more there than here. Monkey shows no sign of knowledge of Science whatsoever

AndrewPKYap SG

Laughing sore loser. Rolling Eyes

keeps saying that what I said "implies this and that according to his delusional mind and keeps repeating his own delusional points over and over again with no reference to what I said rebutting the points he raised.

hmmm maybe the concepts I used are too difficult for him to understand. Laughing

Daddy!! SG

I saw a seow monkey fell off his tree this morning and it was still laughing! ha ha!

AndrewPKYap SG

Rolling Eyes

soul_rage SG

I have already given him the banana
don't make too much fun with monkeys that don't understand anything

Anyway, my 1st posting in this page is enough to make him embarrassed. Caused him to edit his postings 3 times after my post to try to save face Very Happy

AndrewPKYap SG

Rolling Eyes

PRP SG

If you agree that we should belive in science,then there should not be a debate between us.

U said science is very limited.Well,this is a subective opinion.yes there is a lot more to learn & explore.Many scientists are doing it.

AndrewPKYap SG

OK I am bored. I shall continue to pwn you and expose your stupidity for the fun of it

What a complete idiot you are. You think that Ethics and Philosophy arises out of nowhere? You think Ethics and Philosophy does not have any basis? You think that Ethics and Philosophy, just because they can be subjective, has no reasoning behind it? Rolling Eyes

What a grossly stupid person.

The reasoning and the logic behind Ethics and Philosophy is the evidence that people provide for their ethical and the philosophical stance. If they cannot provide any evidence, reason, logic and basis for their ethical and the philosophical stance, they are truly, like you delusional. Rolling Eyes

It is my ethical stance to call a spade, a spade. You cannot say that I am not an ethical person because I have provided ample evidence time and again why you are grossly stupid and delusional.

AndrewPKYap SG

So proud of your own stupidity some more just because I pitied you and was tired of pwning you. Rolling Eyes

Daddy!! SG

scientists do not exclude things they dont know as superstitions, they KIV the phenomena and try to explore possibilities by using currently available technology. Only monkey excludes things he does not know as superstitions. ha ha!

Ibram Gaunt SG

Oh my goodness...I went overseas and left this discussion thread for more than a week and it is still raging...
It seems to be more "popular" than even some of the other politics thread.

Science (as I have mentioned before) is one of the best tools available to mankind in studying natural phenomenon. But to try and apply it to other less "naturalistic" areas like politics, ethics, religion, social values, etc would most likely bring about less than satisfying results.

The great philosopher Bertrand Russell said it best:

"Ethics contains no statements, whether true or false, but consists of desires of a certain general kind, namely such as are concerned with the desires of mankind in general - and of gods, angels, and devils, if they exist. Science can discuss the causes of desires, and the means for realizing them, but it cannot contain any genuinely ethical sentences, because it is concerned with what is true or false (i.e. naturalistic explanantions) "

"I conclude that, while it is true that science cannot decide questions of values, that is because they cannot be intellectually decided at all, and lie outside the realm of truth and falsehood. Whatever knowledge is attainable, must be attained by scientific methods; and what science cannot discover, mankind cannot know."

Full text at: http://www.solstice.us/russell/science-ethics.html

Note the last part where he says:
"what science cannot discover, mankind cannot know."

Daddy!! SG

Originally posted by Ibram Gaunt:
Oh my goodness...I went overseas and left this discussion thread for more than a week and it is still raging...
It seems to be more "popular" than even some of the other politics thread.

Science (as I have mentioned before) is one of the best tools available to mankind in studying natural phenomenon. But to try and apply it to other less "naturalistic" areas like politics, ethics, religion, social values, etc would most likely bring about less than satisfying results.

The great philosopher Bertrand Russell said it best:

"Ethics contains no statements, whether true or false, but consists of desires of a certain general kind, namely such as are concerned with the desires of mankind in general - and of gods, angels, and devils, if they exist. Science can discuss the causes of desires, and the means for realizing them, but it cannot contain any genuinely ethical sentences, because it is concerned with what is true or false (i.e. naturalistic explanantions) "

"I conclude that, while it is true that science cannot decide questions of [b]values, that is because they cannot be intellectually decided at all, and lie outside the realm of truth and falsehood. Whatever knowledge is attainable, must be attained by scientific methods; and what science cannot discover, mankind cannot know."

Full text at: http://www.solstice.us/russell/science-ethics.html

Note the last part where he says:
"what science cannot discover, mankind cannot know."

[/b]

Bertrand Russell said "what science cannot discover, mankind cannot know."

Soul_rage and myself say "science can discover what mankind does not know."

a monkey says "whatever science cannot prove, it is superstition. "

You wrote "But to try and apply it to other less "naturalistic"; areas like politics, ethics, religion, social values, etc would most likely bring about less than satisfying results."

I agree with what you wrote.

A monkey will disagree with you. Only a monkey insists to use science to inform on a decision whether to build a casino in his neighborhood or not.

this monkey lives in boogie wonderland and laughs like seow all the time.

AndrewPKYap SG

I was wondering which monkey said these exact words: "whatever science cannot prove, it is superstition. " in quotation marks some more!

Turned out you are the only one that said those exact words. Don't be so hard on yourself, You are only stupid and delusional, but you are still a member of the human species, a stupid and delusional member, but unfortunately you are still a member. Laughing

AndrewPKYap SG

Originally posted by Ibram Gaunt:
Note the last part where he says:
[b]"what science cannot discover, mankind cannot know."[/b]

Many people refuse to accept that they cannot know and they go on a delusional, imaginary trip insisting that they do.

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