Believe in science & ethics

last SG · 2007-08-17T14:02:49+00:00

The scope of science is very wide.It includes social sciences such as sociology,psychology and politics.

mochou SG

I don't really believe in Science.
Especially on health.
So many cases that this expert say something, then after many years, another expert said that the previous expert was wrong, it's actually total opposite.

So which expert at which time should we believe??
What ever we believe in now(told and proven by expert), maybe 5-10 years later another expert will prove them totally wrong.

So how?

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

This is an incorrect perception.

Science is ever evolving. With new information means changes. This is how it works. It is bad Science to leave things as it is especially when proven wrong.

mochou SG

I understand your point that we should doubt things so that we prove them wrong and come up with new real truths.

But before it's proven wrong, we have been believing in wrong things. And the newly proven truth, may end up being wrong when a better expert prove it wrong after some years.

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

That depends on the vigour of the proof.

The trouble with say medicine, is that a lot of stuff they do is based on studies, which are riddled with statistical problems etc.

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

Until Superstring theories deduce something that can proven in the lab, it's all going to be mathematical plooey.

But they go round in circles, Physicists shall just have to work on stuff that is more easily accessible like finding the Higgs particle, and in areas in Atomic Molecular Optics and Condensed Matter.

(human) SG

The person ready to believe unlikely and unproved things is readily made a slave of by the crafty. -Voltaire

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

It applies to Politics too much unfortunately.

soul_rage SG

Science limits the human brain too severely.

It causes us to become cynical and skeptical in a myopic way, since what Science can do or prove is very limited, given our limitations

It results in us being overly dependent on our 5 regular senses, and making it harder for us to develop our 6th sense, which I believe is inside everyone of us.

Yet, without science, as correctly pointed out by (human), many get enslaved easily by the crafty

All I want to say is, do not make Science the topmost priority in believing in something. Science has a lot of limitations at present

Herzog_Zwei SG

Science is not limited but the human understanding of science is limited.

soul_rage SG

its your perspective

I view it that Science = what we know now.

Of what we know, given the current limits of science, there is much more we do not know.

PRP SG

Science has basic principles to follow.But human beings do make mistake or err or cheat.

soul_rage SG

and who created these basic principles to follow?

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

I'm not sure who, but the basic principles are termed as the "Scientific Method".

Meat Pao SG

I thought what........

The threadstarter didnt elaborate anything at all...how to discuss anything?

Meat Pao.

Isis SG

Sometime, scientific theories can be wrong. Sometime, in ethics, it is a gray area.

So my stand is.. Don't believe in anythings blindly.

PRP SG

Do u know what science is?If u do,what do u think of my opinion?If u don't,then of course u can't dicuss about this topic.

PRP SG

Burning of ‘hell money’ is of course not a scientific belief and it is not even a religious belief.It can be said due to a custom.But I don’t know how strongly those believers believe in the practice.

soul_rage SG

i don't know about you, but science always talks about proof
Then proof is made by Man
and Man can err
So Science to me is just POSSIBLY correct at a certain point of time, according to how much we know, which is finite and limited.

An example, how many times you hear its good to eat a certain thing, coz they did a sample on 1000 people, only to realize its wrong many many years later? How many times for eg. you hear a certain illness is connected to a certain gene, or a certain type of food we consumed, only to find out its wrong.

I don't believe too much in Science, but I believe more in tuning my spiritual connection with my surroundings. There are many things that Science cannot prove, and even if proven, may not be correct.

In fact, I like to say, there are MANY MANY MORE things Science CANNOT explain, as compared to the things that Science can explain.

So given the above, how can one just believe in Science and nothing else, since it only serves to limit his ability to comprehend more things (inside and outside of Science)

Science may be taken seriously, coz there is no other alternative since we depend on our 5 senses too much.

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

I try not to sound like an Atheist when I describe Science to people, since I am not, but regardless how you disparage Science for not being 100% accurate, there is no denying that you are here typing on the computer because of the triumph of Quantum Mechanics some 50 or so years ago, and the fact that most of what you are using is a result of the great progress Science made in the last 3 centuries since Newton and before. Just because Scientists have been wrong before, and they have especially when it comes to Medicine since a lot of Studies are based on statistical evidence, otherwise, it has been right in many areas and has yet to be proven wrong.

And if a theory is wrong, then it should be corrected. There is no reason to lose faith in Science just because it is wrong. Anything can be wrong, even interpretations of the Bible, or some holy scripture, which by the way was also done by Man. Nothing is infallible, least of all religion, of which has led to many an abuse.

soul_rage SG

No I do not lose faith in Science. And yes, I am impressed with how much we have progressed. Indeed, we should continue to pursue down the paths of Science to bring us to the next level of progress.

However, I am at odds with people whom think that Science is the holy grail, and that if Science cannot explain = things do not exist. This is very damaging to the human capability, as it artificially limits how much a person can progress, and progress is not only books and studies, or work, etc, but the progression of the mind as well.

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