What is The differences between honda Esi , Sir and Vti ?

NewLicense SG

Can Any kindsoul Reply me . ? tell me the Differences . ?And which of these Cars are worth buying ?

megatron SG

well.im no honda expert but their diff is power output,performance & tech specs as in their vtec specs N stages.
Worth buyin? for myself, SIR (manual).

KLZW SG

esi - i'm not sure
Vti - 1.5L, 3-stage vtec
Sir - 1.6L 2-stage vtec

Ray_mondsg SG

Hi. Let me explain to you. Hope you will benefit from it. Rolling Eyes

Production Year End 1992 to End 1995
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Honda LSI : Lower horsepower of the 3 models. Not a VTEC engine. 1500cc SOHC (Single Cams) engine.

Honda ESI : Honda 2 Stage 1600cc VTEC SOHC Engine. Comsumption about 12km/Litre for manual (I drove this model before)

Honda VTI : Honda 2 Stage 1600cc VTEC DOHC (Twin Cams) Engine.

Production Year End 1995 to Early 2001
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Honda EXI : Replace the previous model of LSI. 1500cc SOHC engine with a horsepower of 105BHP.

Honda VTI : Replace the previous model of ESI. 1500cc SOHC engine with a horsepower of 130BHP. Auto gear box came with economy, normal & sport mode. Fuel comsumption about 11-12km/Litre (I drive this model before)

Honda SIR : Replace the previous model of VTI. 1600cc DOHC engine with a horsepower of 155BHP for Auto & 170BHP for manual.

NB : I had drove 3 of the generation model for Honda. Namely 1991 Honda Civic 3dr 1.3GL(Manual) Modified, 1993 Honda Civic 4dr 1.6ESI(Manual) & 1996 Honda Civic 4dr 1.5VTI(Auto), If you need more info, you can drop me a mail at [email protected], I will try to provides you any info that I know.

Rgds,
Raymond

CryoGenic SG

If you want a fair amount of power, go for the DOHC VTEC engines.
That comes in the 92-95 EG VTi and the 96-00 EK SiR.

Most EG VTis are renewed COE ones, but cost about $5k+ depreciation a year. Parts will probably be worn out tho unless previous owner really take care and replace all the necc (e.g air-con system, lower arms, power steering rack etc)

EK SiR depreciation nowadays is mebe $7-8k odd per year. But condition of course newer.

Just a couple of years back, the SiRs and EG Vtis depreciated $9k odd a year. Now considered relatively 'cheaper'

DOHC engines more stuff to modify if u are into it... the SOHCs are still good, but costly to extract power and some 'race' parts not from Japan/USA but Thailand instead.

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overall, SiR would be the infamous boyracer civics u see plying the roads here. VTi is decent only.

Oh i know of a ridiculous air force regular who didn't want to let his ex-gf(my friend) drive his 00 spec VTi saying it was too powerful and he didn't think she can handle the power. ha!
128bhp is hardly anything to get excited about, esp considering the SiR's 170bhp. I really ought to give him a taste of 240bhp, except that my friend wants nothing more to do with him.
Confused

CryoGenic SG

Actually, for a newbie driver, a 1.6 corolla already feels quite 'powerful' (own experience + frens... mebe we lousy drivers Razz ) compared to something like the 1.3 323.

Of course now drive for a decent amount of time liao, if ppl try to 'show-off' 130bhp, its nothing much...

Saw some of ur postings, Airtrek Turbo eh? Razz Casually tot of getting one for my next car (no money la, juz tink only Razz ) but for tat price, mebe can top up some more get Evo 8 MR or mebe get a 2nd hand Evo7, Sti or S15? hmmm...

I'm sure the Airtrek Turbo R is powerful... any other 'advantages' or plus points, so to speak, about it? (Besides the fact its an SUV comparing to a sedan).. thanks!

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orh haaa....... the Turbo R is 112k brand new. er EVO7 even 2nd hand also about 120 to 130k? S15 brand new is 130k but now a bit hard to find. i know theres someone offering a silva S14 for sale for 54k though, check out yahoo auctions singapore. STi.... um..... i would never go for the car & brand that caused the deaths of 2 top professional international rally drivers, IN ONE SINGLE YEAR(2003). as for EVO8MR.... u gotta top up a lot from the airtrek turbo R to get it wor... the turbo R is really a budget EVO7 in disguise.
Razz

CryoGenic SG

Oh ... 112k ah.. tot it was 120k.. tink the figures got messed up in my head Razz

Like tat the rest are not really in the price range... unless mebe 1 yr old STi (my fren bot 110k) or S15.

Good thing is that Airtrek Turbo also dun look too boyracer (all tho i see quite a lot getting fiercer and fiercer with the lowered gantong, bodykit and rear spoilers) and mebe can avoid TP/LTA's attention even with a couple of HKS 3037s inside..haha

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[email protected] SG

sorry 120k is for my Ralliart edition with sun roof version. stock Turbo R is 112k, Ralliart Turbo R is 118k.

AE86tofu SG

thats only the engine....handling-wise cannot lar....It's too darn Cumbersome...admit it...it's an SUV just like Mine....not supposed to Race thru corners but when U need the extra power of coz it can give it to u anytime,any place..... Wink

CryoGenic SG

Ahh.. I see... thanks for the info...

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moron dun compare my CHOCOLATE to your SHIT can?
Ralliart Racing suspension for fun one issit? cumbersome my ass loh..... the whole darn transmission from the EVO7 GTA... wah lau..... dun know dun anyhow say hor...... this car puts the S into SUV.
continue like that and i will have to pretend i dunno u. u're supposed to be a knowledgeable car fanatic and here u are sprouting your usual BULLSHIT again...... dun throw my face can? wait they think all us car fanatics are as mis-informed and clueless like u.

[email protected] SG

and tofu.
Evil or Very Mad
u jealous of me also no reason to slag my car off. anyone use brains think will know u talking rubbish. i damn dulan of telling u to use your BLOODY BRAIN.
ONE MORE TIME AND I'LL TELL MALCOLM NOT TO EVEN LET U ANYWHERE NEAR THE TRACK, MUCH LESS RACE ON IT.

i dun want a brainless driver on track posing a danger to us all. im sure Shaun, Opai, Jelaine, and the others will agree.
Evil or Very Mad

KLZW SG

if u wan to throw ur car into a corner at full speed, get a mini cooper s lar.. hahaha Razz

AE86tofu SG

YEAH!!! Mini cooper!!!! ^5!!

[email protected] SG

groupie... u haven't clear yourself hor...
there r lotsa cars which entering the corner at half speed still faster than mini at full speed.

zeus83 SG

wahaha, you beat me to it.. i love the cooper S too.. But the price is rather steep.. if you're not afraid of wrecking yr car? playing with corners? Basic car to improve yr driving skills?.. get a vti, esi.. do some serious engine mods.. Race at yr own risk..

I think that the airtrek is more of an off-road speed demon.. more suited for bumpy malaysian roads.. Throwing the suv round the corner is very contradicting... SUVs are meant for comfort, and performance..

you can't have comfort, little body rolls and perfect steering.. unless you own a mclaren, lambo, SLR, etc.

[email protected] SG

off road? dude unless u wanna rip the bodykit off the airtrek, its best to keep it on the black stuff only. that car is meant for driving corners, being similar to the EVO7 mechanically. in fact it even weighs the same too. both the Airtrek Turbo R n the EVO7 weight about 1500kg.

anyway i would never race a civic. too unstable in corners. modding the engine for a civic is a certain stupid way to die.
wanna improve your car control skills? get a kart. if u can handle a kart u can handle a car. u can handle a car dun mean u can handle a kart. i've had guys driving EVOs, WRXs, even ferraris, come to the track swaggering thinking they're good, until they get on track and suddenly find that karting is a whole new ballgame. nvm the embarressment. it gets worse when the 7 yr old kid(this really cute little boy who karts and races professionally already) then goes out and shows them how its done.

tripp_4 SG

The Vti is a good car, powerful and fuel saving, so go for it if u have a choice.