Mr Ma and Indonesia gahmen ever discuss about the problems in
their countries with them. If I did not remember wrongly that
Indonesia did approach the oppressive gahmen for help or advice on
their country.
Look at it, these are asian countries, western countries know the
regime too well to seek their help and advice. Western countries
love digging their dirty and annouce it, this is what I love, for
by doing so they are speaking for us.