will you stick with SingTel?

Jontst78 SG

Which means, all those that paid Odex compensation, actually didn't have to pay, unless they downloaded "Gundam Seed". Basically all who has paid should come together and counter sue Odex for unlawful extortion or something like that, or at least get their money back.

storywolf SG

Originally posted by Jontst78:

Which means, all those that paid Odex compensation, actually didn't have to pay, unless they downloaded "Gundam Seed". Basically all who has paid should come together and counter sue Odex for [b]unlawful extortion or something like that, or at least get their money back.[/b]

In a way - you are right, they did not have the sole licencee thus - they are sort recoginse of having the rights to it in the first place , if you do not own the rights, in Singapore copyright law, you cannot sue people for it.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

I'll say we jump in too fast on Singnet. Not that I'm helping Singet, do we ever know if the lawyers they hired know much about Copyright Act or TCC Act?

Strictly speaking, the T&C signed by customer would have given ODEX the rights to obtain the info, and that's how ODEX managed to get Singnet and Starhub to release the info.

PacNet's case was different in every aspect. The judge questioned literally everything, copyright and privacy issues. There was nothing to question about privacy, we have no such things here. Then to the copyright issues.

He took into account that ODEX wasn't the sole licensee for most anime sold here, so he rejected ODEX demands. Plus the fact that ODEX was using copyright laws to pressure users, Judge Lau decided that this factor will have to be considered.

So, the question is, did other judges even took this into consideration? If judges can turn a blind eye to certain laws, I can see why Singnet and Starhub could lose so easily.

Also, the judge noted that the tracking method used by ODEX wasn't really so effective, as most users have pointed out, thus the case was rejected, together with the copyright factor.

Judges play an important role in this ODEX case. We have one judge that looks at everything, we have 2 others that probably didn't even bother.

Now that ODEX is considering to appeal, we just have to be prepared for the worst. Judge Lau may have made some questionable points, but that doesn't mean ODEX won't win, solely because of the T&C and because we have no privacy acts here.

royston_ang SG

They are lawyers, they are supposed to know. These are not knowledge known by average ppl. If not, why do they charge such a high fee?

Can Singnet or PacNet predict how the judge(s) will handle the case? If not, does it matter who the judge is then?

Fatum SG

hiaz.... what's the diff ? ....

all three are government linked companies, directly or indirectly .... neh ? .... Laughing

euc SG

Seems like the other two judges just sit on their asses and look pretty.

If they were really doing their jobs, perhaps they would have thrown ODEX nonsensical case out or look it over like the third judge.

So perhaps it is a flaw in the legal system and not a dipshit at Odex?

ndmmxiaomayi SG

They are lawyers, they are supposed to know. These are not knowledge known by average ppl. If not, why do they charge such a high fee?

They are supposed to know, it doesn't mean they know. Lawyers do have their own specialties.

Can Singnet or PacNet predict how the judge(s) will handle the case? If not, does it matter who the judge is then?

No, they can't. But as seen, it has an impact.

Edit: typo.

« Previous Page