ST and Govt out of touch with American Politics

last SG · 2007-07-19T09:34:50+00:00

Repeat after me monkey brain: "Ad Hominen attacks do not constitute an argument."

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

Bah. He might as well settle for a lesser job in Iraq kidnapping foreigners. Laughing
Assuming his own subordinates don't kill him first!

Mat Toro SG

Wah! big words. You must be from RJC or hwa chong.

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

It's funny that this fool should come along and say something like considering that most of the PAP cabinet is from RJC or something of the like.

Arapahoe SG

I do not believe either party that hold the Oval office will proceed the same strategy as Bush such as regime changed and occupation force. But having said that, you must also understand if US military start to withdraw today, it will take them at least 1 year to completely pull out from Iraq. So whoever is going to sit in the Oval office will still have to work on Iraq for the first few years.

Rather than military operation with regime changed as objective. A wider expansion on the fight against terrorist will be redeployment of smaller forces and more focus on Terrorist cell and organization across the region. Such as what we saw from Somalia, but military command and information gathering will continue that I think is a long term military strategy that place emphasis on Africa and mid east conflict rather than a party strategy.

Dont be surprise If Hillary were to assume the helm I do believe her policy will be rather different from what we saw from Bill or past democrats.

Mat Toro SG

anything wrong with PAP coming from RJC? You jealous?

Arapahoe SG

So am I culpable for misinterpreting your words at face value if this had been born out of your inadequacy in expressing yourself?

I am not a mind reader, n certainly from what I read there arent much other than despot and Bill, thank God there are lives outside SG forum right. Laughing

As a matter of fact, you claimed Obama to have an edge over Hillary on the basis that Africa will feature heavily on the next administration's foreign policy. So instead of darting and skirting around with what the average chap in the South would think, why don't you shed some light on the exact nature of the edge Obama is supposed to have over Hillary?

Nobody is skirting. Its still early in the show, an edge over profile. Character with his demeanor and talks of principality during speeches. Copy cat of Bill when he was running against senior Bush. A quote i pick up from MSNBC.

But he said the biggest difference between the two appears to be judgment versus experience: Sen. Obama's media blitz portrays him as the candidate for change youthful and charismatic he even took a page from the Clinton handbook using Hope in his book title.

Candidates are still trying to differentiate themselves from the one another. For obvious, Obama have broader fund raising support fan base more than Hillary. That tells a lot. For practical reason Money helps He can out spend. He can always said that he opposed the war from the start. Hillary probably will have to counter her war vote. We just have to see how Obama is going to move himself away from the others and appeal to the voters.
If the candidates can grow onto you chances of gaining votes on the way are greater. For Hillary, I just think that it is either you like her or u dont.

Oh, and if it's not what you or I think that matters and this should be a matter discussed solely by those entitled to suffrage by their Constitution (a pretty familiar excuse I've heard upteen times from a certain fascist regime which advocates unfavourable political discussions to be a matter for its subjects ), I suppose it's none of your business if "Experience on Africa" is a criteria for the folks in Alabama, is it?

Seriously What folks really care about. Bringing troops back, Lower Gasoline price, affordable Healthcare insurance, and resolve the 12 million illegal. Regaining jobs. lowering housing cost. The rest of the world can drop dead. Mr. Green

Have a nice weekend. Laughing

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

Why should I be? I even have friends from that JC.

They certainly have more brains than you have.

Mat Toro SG

Yes, those RJC and HJC do have much more brains than you have sir.

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

Coming from a moron like you, who makes a mockery of the word "sir", perhaps you should learn when to use your mouth wisely and not for purposes where you are clearly out of your league and then know your place.

Didn't i tell you to go to a corner to weep? Go there, be a good dog at least, and STAY. Pathetic piece of filth which should never have been born.

walesa SG

One year? Since when was military strategy so ring-fenced that you could be that predictable? It's as logical as it would be to have General Petraeus running the US Treasury.

What drivel are you on about? What about Somalia are you exactly referring to? If it's Clinton's policy in the 90's you're talking about, I certainly see no logic or connection here.

Why should I be surprised? It's your drivel that has surprised me more than anything. Laughing

walesa SG

Of course you aren't. For someone who struggles to understand events that have already occurred and switches his stance as frequently as colours changing on a chameleon, you'd do well if you could come up with coherent and logical arguments comprehensible to the sane, nevermind interpret the intangible matters of the mind.

Just as well folks as shallow as you aren't in the business of defending lives for alleging everyone else failing to understand your warped polemics as being obssessed with a brand of "fixation" only comprehensible to you. Laughing

Really? I suppose the NRA (National Rifle Association for the uninitiated), trade unions, gay rights activists and abortion advocates (among a host of other civil and labour rights groups) are all dispensable and possess perfectly no influence over both the GOP and the Democrats in the ensuing elections eh?

No wonder you're as delusional as a long line of illustrious names who are as infamously celebrated here as humanly imaginable. Mr. Green

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

Originally posted by Arapahoe:
I do not believe either party that hold the Oval office will proceed the same strategy as Bush such as regime changed and occupation force. But having said that, you must also understand if US military start to withdraw today, it will take them at least 1 year to completely pull out from Iraq. So whoever is going to sit in the Oval office will still have to work on Iraq for the first few years.

I wonder if there's anything to work on when the situation is practically out of US hands. If by anything, getting out of there and not giving cause for some nationalist elements, even supposed ones, excuses for guerrilla warfare against the US. As it is, there are 3 main factions, and even within the Sunni and Shia Arabs, there is plenty of intra-factional fighting and the Iraqi Govt continues to coast towards oblivion. Not least, the real threats to the entire concept of an Iraqi state come from the south and north; Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Rather than military operation with regime changed as objective. A wider expansion on the fight against terrorist will be redeployment of smaller forces and more focus on Terrorist cell and organization across the region. Such as what we saw from Somalia, but military command and information gathering will continue that I think is a long term military strategy that place emphasis on Africa and mid east conflict rather than a party strategy.

You do realise that the entire notion of "regime change" is something that assumes that the people will happily come out and kiss the feat of the "liberating" Americans. The truth of the matter only becomes clear when the powers that put the previous Govt in power resort to a brutal guerrilla war to fight the Americans.

As for Africa, seriously, what the situation is a big mess and entangling in a big mess has always been a no no. The US as it is, resorts to war by proxy instead of direct confrontation. Even if troops are sent, they resort to low key actions.

Dont be surprise If Hillary were to assume the helm I do believe her policy will be rather different from what we saw from Bill or past democrats.

It is too early to even comment on what her policies will be like.

Mat Toro SG

Based on what you just wrote, you do fall short of those RJCs and HJCs. You just haven't got a character.

crazy monkey SG

damn kids. when is school reopening Laughing

Arapahoe SG

As for Africa, seriously, what the situation is a big mess and entangling in a big mess has always been a no no. The US as it is, resorts to war by proxy instead of direct confrontation. Even if troops are sent, they resort to low key actions.

agreed i think it will be a long time they will think about regime changed. whoever hold office will still face terror threat and they will use carrort and stick diplomacy in african nations such as counter terrorism training, send in special forces counter terrorism advisor, and UAV just like what they did in Somalia. and Debt forgiving, USaid on the other hand etc.

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