Study abroad but 'make future here' - Ng Eng Hen

last SG · 2007-07-23T15:19:12+00:00

Troll appears above for attack again!!

JLennon SG

C'mon, you don't have to read politics to be a minister or to specialise in a particular area to hold a portfolio.

turdkenstien SG

sure, than what do you need to be a scholar? I wonder why Ben Bernanke was a PROMINENT ECONOMIST before he became the Fed Chief

JLennon SG

LKY and Tony Blair were lawyers before becoming Prime Ministers respectively. Gordon Brown read history before succeeding Blair.

Moreover, what has my statement got to do with being a scholar?

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

LOL, gazelle pwned again:

The interesting thing I realize is that instead of trying to address the domestic issues at hand, some people always try to make it as if these things don't matter and the rest of the world is a big bad place that the Singaporean cannot survive in, and hence Singapore is the only refuge for them.

I am not certain what they are trying to prove except that Singaporeans are whimps who cannot trive beyond a 700km square patch of land. Laughing

No matter how you twist it things are becoming clearer: those who have the ability and will to do so will leave our nation if we do not pull our socks up to actually make some real changes towards retaining our top talents who will inevitibly see a better deal elsewhere at the rate things are going.

turdkenstien SG

Well there is a greater co-relation between law and politics than medicine and labor economics, eg Dr Ng.

What I am trying to say is that many of our ministers are in politics by virtue of them being government scholars and not because of their previous track record.

While I agree with your point that one does not have to necessarily read politics to become a politician. Most of the presidential candidates in the democrat party in the US hold law degrees as well, Hilary Clinton, Obama Barrack, John Edwards etc. In my opinion, the skills that are learnt from being trained in law definately is more relevant when one decides to embark on a career in politics.

That being said, would you agree with me that someone with a rigourous training in economics would be a better fit to head the Ministry of Labor?

qlqq9 SG

Well, well, you said it, you brought up very good points. Precisely my sentiments as well.

will4 SG

14 out of 40 will come back sooner or later. What about the rest?

Herzog_Zwei SG

Shows that the Singapore government is not doing what it is supposed to do,eg. creating a more economicably feasible nation.

qlqq9 SG

They wanna have the best of both worlds.

Herzog_Zwei SG

Do you think that's possible?

Gedanken SG

Judging from LKY's comments about other countries, Singapore looks like a gerbil fancying itself an elephant rapist. Do you honestly think the powers-that-be are particularly concerned about what's sane, much less what's possible? Laughing

will4 SG

Which countries u refering to?

Herzog_Zwei SG

They did attempt to try.

qlqq9 SG

Not possible at present, unless they do something to change. Lower the cost of living, come out with incentives for these to come back, change the way they run Singapore.

So far they have not changed anything to suit the people of Singapore, and I don't think they ever will. They will change to suit their own selfish desires and wants but not change for the people. Really, if I am able to, I will leave. It is stifling to live here, and this is one of the reasons why singapore overseas students don't wanna come back.

will4 SG

I have a colleuge in NS graduated from Ivy leauge university n he awol upon being marked by our superiors. I rememer some of the bond breakers

refused to come back n the companies which hired them offered to pay the school fees to the govt.

qlqq9 SG

ha ha ha! If he has better offer why come back.

will4 SG

Precisely in here there is too many limitation at the most the local can buy HDB flat compared to what they can get in other countries.

BillyBong SG

Originally posted by turdkenstien:

going by the statistics that someone posted(http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html), singapore has a murder rate of 4.3/100,000 people and new york city has a murder rate of 6.6/100,000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City).

A comparison of these two statistics show that Singapore certainly [b] IS NOT as safe as some people on this forum claim it to be[/b]

Put statistics aside for a moment, and try and appreciate what you have here from a physical and experience standpoint.

Say what we like about our gahmen, we have to agree that some measure of safety and personal well-being can be guaranteed if you walk the streets of Singapore at any time of the day.

The chances of getting mugged, robbed or raped are negligible as compared to being hit by a car, where driving accidents have spiked in recent years.

I can only name a two countries which i have visited and feel equally safe - New Zealand and Switzerland.

At the end of the day, miss not the forest in your search for trees.

turdkenstien SG

fair enough..

walesa SG

With the greatest respect and looking at safety from purely a perspective entailing crimes, I've never felt safer than I had been in North Korea (and I don't mean this as a pun or a joke) - well, that stands so long as you don't test your luck by doing something that could potentially test the patience of Kim and his minions. That doesn't say much, does it?

That alone hardly masks a clear picture of the grim realities that exist which any individual must take as a package where residency/citizenship issues are concerned - and quite plainly, the deal offered by this regime to the most able and capable is hardly remotely appealing enough to compete with what numerous other countries could offer on the planet.

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