snow Leapord, personally I think you are very dumb to be trying
to clean up someone else shi.t because
a) You have no clue of what we are talking about unless you have
read what we have discussed earlier
b) You are not aware which part of the statement is true and which
one is false, which one is from atobe, which one is from
Gazelle,
c) You have limited information of the subject that we are
discussing hence it is likely that you can only contribute by
speculating.
d) It is also not in their interest to talk about it because that
will just put salt onto their wound.
Since you are so eager, I will have no choice but to entertain
you.
Originally posted by snow leopard:
1) Singaporeans will not benefit from the
IRs
SL : the benefit from the IR will largely accrue to the govt
C : The question is not about who will benefit more, it is will IR
benefit Singaporeans.
2) the whole objective of IRs is for the government to collect
gaming taxes.
SL : it is the number one reason, even oxford mushroom agrees
C : If you say so, then why does the government suggest the
Venetian LV 30/70 business model and limit the floor area of gaming
business in the IR?
3) Singapore economy to will become like Monaco because we
have F1
SL : in what ways?
G : You ask Atobe
4) The reason why genting won the sentosa IR bid is because
of PM Badawi
SL : back up what you're saying
G : Ask Atobe (thats his claim)
5) Rich people attracted to singapore is comparable to
Singaporeans going to JB to buy cheap grocery and
food.
SL : rich people coming to singapore to stay will inflate housing
prices here. at least singaporeans going to JB to buy groceries
won't stay in JB and cause property price jump.
G : Yup it is different, but in my opinion, you argument is
misguided by your interest that property prices in Singapore should
remain flat or inline with your personal income growth.
6) Mcdonald market strategy is to get kids addicted to
their burger and fries and they will eat till they
die.
SL : what are you trying to imply?
G : Ask Atobe (his claim is that Mcdonalds food are addictive and
you will eat till you die)
7) MICE activities in Singapore will not benefit
Singaporeans.
SL : but won't it benefit the govt a whole lot more than ordinary
singaporeans?
G : The question is not about weather the government will benefit
more or less, it if it will benefit Singaporeans. Since you are at
it, can I know why you say that the government will benefit more
than the private companies that organize MICE, the participants the
seal business deal during the MICE, and the companies and
Singaporeans that are supporting the MICE activities?
8.) Tourists in Singapore, will only spend money at Marina
Bay Sands and RWS
SL : is the whole idea of marina sands to earn money from tourists
buying satay?
G : No, their main income will be coming from the MICE, gaming,
F&B and hotel. But what is your point of asking about satay?
Confused?
9) Countries like Malaysia and Shanghai are losing money
hosting F1
SL : taiwan and hong kong businessmen making money in china doesn't
mean we would make money too.
G : I dont see a logic is what you are trying to say. The question
should be, are you sure they are losing money? Or is atobe trying
to distort information?
10) there were multiple PM Badawi visits to Singapore
before and after the Sentosa IR announcement.
SL : PM Lee made a personal visit to PM Thatsin just before the
signing of the Shincorp deal.
G : PM Lee visit to Thailand as got nothing to do with PM Badawis
visit to Singapore. Obviously you are not aware of what we are
talking about, because you should ask yourself this question, (Did
PM Badawi visited Singapore in 2006?) before jumping into
conclusion that he did. (Example of blind leading the
blind??)
12) Chinese cant afford to attend F1 race in
Shanghai
SL : so?
G : Your question should not be so, it should be are you sure they
cant afford?
13) Malaysians earning in Ringgit cannot afford to attend
F1 race in Malaysia
SL : and?
G : Same as question (12)
14) Cost of Shanghai F1 facility, US$3,000,000,000
($3b)
SL : back up your figures
G : Ask Atobe or maybe M13, thats their claim.
15) Only Singapore Straits Times cover PM Badawi's visit to
Singapore in 2006
SL : but straits times is the main newspaper in singapore isn't
it?
G : Do you have reasons to believe that such high profile news will
only be covered by 3 media companies and that you cant find news
coverage of his visit from internet and our government
website?
