Does NS count, other than a liability in the private sector?

Jontst78 SG

Couple of years in the department, transfered after that. The manager has a habit of saying "off days are a priviledge, not an entitlement" shook my head whenever I heard that.

LazerLordz SG

He must have been one of the stereotypical ex-regulars who left at Major.

Patrik SG

I like the last line.
My sentiments exactly.
I was just telling that to Aaron.
Laughing

will4 SG

I remembered reading an article about an HR manager encouraging NS ersonnel to list their working experience in NS.

will4 SG

Some former regular still have the bad habit of yelling n utting others down when they left the army.

LazerLordz SG

too bad such HR managers are few and far between.

Jontst78 SG

I was told by a WO before I ORD many years ago. that if you serve more than a certain number of years in the military, think it was 15 or 20, you have to go for a "civilian conversion" course beofore ORD

Then he went on to tell me about a Ex RSM who became a Taxi Driver and assaulted a customer to was "Kuai Lan" lol

will4 SG

It is true n the sad part the NS spec or officer got higher chances of being emloyed comared to enlistees.

Jontst78 SG

Coz officer is considered junior management or supervisory post. Means you have some experience in managing people. Expecially in countries in US, UK and Aust, where the military is a Professional military.

will4 SG

Third sergeant also higher chances of getting work n bumped into a fren also a sec during NS nn working in KMG.

I cannot hel but have a feeling those NS spec or officers got high osition, nice cars n higher chances of mgrating to other countries compared to enlistees.

LazerLordz SG

I have heard of officers having a hard time with HR here due to their reservist committments too..

I had a storeman who came back for reservist, only a PTE, but he was a creative director with an ad agency.

will4 SG

I have also heard of LCP n CPL director of large companies.

Jontst78 SG

I understand what you mean, I used to think that way, but its not really due to their appoinments in the Military, directly.

Several factors I think contribute - firstly, A level students who are officers or specs are usually awaiting a uni placement. And the selection from BMT to OCS, the PC or OC actually recommends the more "on the ball" ones. And being on the ball does help in your professional life in some way. its just one example. There are other factors but similar to poly students as well.

And those in who went thru OCS, if they paid attention, they would have actually learned something positive from the whole 9 mths they were there. I'm not an officer, but I have seen some of the course content.

But there are officers/specs who are bums as well, or don't make it big. But going thru OCS or SISPEC does build some character in some of them.

will4 SG

It is not surprsing considering the fact they used to scream n yell at those poor NSF n threatened to charge them for disobedience of general order.

When they came out of the service, they need to adapt to civilian surrounding in which they cannot yell or scream order at others.

LazerLordz SG

My friend's reservist unit had a CO PA who was the boss of the CO in real life.

Something like COPA - Asst. Vice Pres, and the CO was GM in the same company. Laughing

will4 SG

Last time in army kena shock therahy by saying if performance got bad remarks, later go outside find work difficult.

My fren also went for interview, most employer never also care about it.

dracky SG

NS experience counts for nothing in the private sector. However, NS can add to a person's maturity and help you understand the mentality of large organisations and about motivating colleagues.

will4 SG

If I a HR manager, definitely hired those went thru SISPEC before for managerial post

Arapahoe SG

Are you serious? I mean how to manage someone who at year end performance review did not add bonus?

Arapahoe SG

NS does not count as work experience in private sector in SG especially in MNC, But if you don't have that experience all sort of questions start coming up. Than it might be a minus point in terms of maturity which is true.

If you don;t have NS than don;'t even thing about gov job. If you don;t have certain Rank certain post are out of reach even that individual have a degree.

So NS is needed but in terms of vocation n rank is non essential in private sector. Just like saying this job need a degree to apply but really grades and discipline not essentail.

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