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Originally posted by Zulkiflim:
As for your "knowledge" on apostasy in Islam,it is what you wish to
understand not the complete picture.
google for it..LOLOL...
Is not the understanding of your
Blessed Prophet based on what you wish to understand, as you have
similarly avoided to address the issues by ni tpicking with your
replies by avoiding issues that you have no answer for
?
As for the referenc to using Lina Joy converted name,i wold say it
is simply hyprocrisy.
The western media choose not to uese John Walker Muslim name,any
reason why?
Would you make noise if they use Lina Joy old
name?
Has anyone made any noise about
anyone's name used by the Press ? It seems that you are the only
petty one.
Why are you fixxated by the superficial and the petty ?
If one is to make noise about a name, it will be yours - and can
one blame you for your pettiness when you choose to be a
''Zuki -
flim'' ?
As for the action of the muslim in Afghan/Iraq and so on,we can
simply say that what hey do is in their own culture not what in
Islam.
The are embracers of Islam for a
longer period than the Malays in Southeast Asia, and if you believe
that their practices is their own culture and not Islam, that shows
your deceitful self-denial of the dark side of Islam as practised
in backward communities steeped in the Islamic values.
If you believe that such abusive practises are imposed on their
women based on their culture, are the Muslims in Southeast Asia not
similarly mindless imitating the cultures of these Conservative
Muslim countries that imposes severe restrictions on their Muslim
Women ?
Another exaple of assimilitaing Islam wihout losing their
culture
The laws of Islam is clear regarding murder of muslim,man or
women.
In Islam a woman who works need not share her money for the
family,the man must be the one who support.
In Islma if a woman want a baby but the man cannot give one,the
woman has the right of divorce.
You ought to do a ''Reality Check'' of what is
prescribed by Islamic Theory in the various God inspire and Man
inspired holy books, are not exactly what is practised by the
Islamic Male Dominate Societies in the various conservatively
Islamic countries of Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, the Arabic States in
the Middle-east, Pakistan, Northern Africa. With the only exception
being the progressive secular Muslim state of Turkey - and even
then there are Islamic hardliners pushing to change this secular
status; and already imposing Islamic rules and regulations on the
liberal and modern Turkish women's appearance in
Public.
there are many more laws in Islam that run counter to what is
practised in the culture.
An exple in this malay community,when we marry a sum maybe 10 to 50
dollars is used to soleminized the marriage,but the culture
dictates that a LARGER sum is given to the female..maybe 8K to
20K.
So culture and Islam is mixed.
You are an expert at being
deceitful and 'flim flam'
your way through your arguments.
If culture and Islam is mixed, it already proves that Malays have
mindlessly adopted foreign religion with its accompanying culture
that is totally foreign to this South-east Asian
region.
And we already know that Islam is the final religion,no toehr will
come from Allah.
It is the seal,while the other book are for one race only.
Islam is for all of mankind.
Only the self-deceiving, and those
with a simple mind will believe that his is the last for all
mankind.
Like the Jews believing themselves to be the Chosen Race of GOD,
what else can come from such empty and arrogant boasts but to
result in absurd abuses and disrespect towards others - their
culture, their religious beliefs, their philosophies, politics, and
simply a way of Life.
Are you not already contravening the Prophet's teaching of
tolerance and respect towards other Religions, when you believe
that yours is the last of all and the only True Religion ?
It is sheer conceited and self-delusionary
deception.
And piety is not for man to judge but Allah,we do and follow Allah
commandemnt as best we can.
We make decision based on our own,the choices we make we know WILL
ENSURE OUR DAMNATION OR SALVATION.
LEt me narate a story.
One time a woman was walking in the street and a fight ensues for
her.
Afraid she runs into a mosque.
The Imam a yound man told her to leave for it is unseemly for a man
and woman to leave.
She pleaded for safety and so they stayed the night together at
different corners.
He read the Quran by candlelight and every so often he placed his
hand over the light.After a time he removed his hand and placed it
back again.
the woman was curious as to why but forbear and did not ask
then.
In the morning when it is safe,the Imam asked her to leave beforet
the morning prayers,she did but asked him why did he do what he
did.
He replied,i am a man and you are a woman,ill thought came to me
and so i placed my hand over the fire and thought to myself,if just
being near the fire is painful to bear,what more so will the fire
of hell feesl like if i rape the woman?
So it forbearance and love and fear of Allah,to remove your lust
for a greater reward..
Inshallah
How pitiful that a Holy Man
respected as a chosen one, will need a physical flame to remind him
of his own position ?
It simply shows the shallowness of the human spirit that will even
be tempted by the sight of a woman in distress, and will even dare
to be tempted with the thought of raping a helpless woman that came
for help.
Is this the hallmark of the many incidents in the largely Malay
communities - where incest occur so frequently, and abusing
helpless children under their guardianship ?
There must be something inherently wrong when despite being
nurtured in the Holy Environment of a Mosque, the human weakness
can be so easily aroused by the sight of a helpless woman.
It is little wonder that the Muslims Men have to insist that women
cover themselves totally and be like a innate furniture piece; as
this is never expected of the women folks in the other Relgiious
Communities.
