Political reform proposal No. 1

last SG · 2006-08-28T13:53:36+00:00

What i propose is: In the parliamentarty election,all candidates (even thou they can be members of politcal parties)would stand as individuals and should not...

PRP SG

[b]How did you vote?

Did u vote for the party or the candidate or in consideration of both factors?[/b]

PRP SG

Why do members don't show support to my idea?Is my idea too difficult to understand?

Jinpa SG

Originally posted by PRP:
Sgheartland,

U are 1 more supporter for my idea?

If it can't be top-down, then it should ground up. [b]For a start, let's see if there are 100 members to express support for my idea. [/b]

I support your idea, as far as it is now.
But it should not stop there.
I notice that your title is "Political Reform Proposal No. 1".
So, I guess there will also be Proposal No. 2. etc.

I just want to add, the next stage, to include the independence of
the Civil Service and Trade Unions. The chiefs of these organisations
should not be appointed by the govt, but elected within the members of
the organisations themselves. Then they will not be influenced or
beholdened to the Political Masters, and therefore can exercise independent
unbias judgements and decisions, going against the govt for the greater
good of the bigger public, if necessary.

PRP SG

Civil service & trade unions are supposed to be independent even now.

Jinpa SG

They are "SUPPOSED" to be independent, yes.
In form and theory, they are independent.
In substance and practice, they are not!
Ways must be found to ensure that they are independent both in form
and substance, and in theory as well as in practice.

PRP SG

An amendment to my orginal proposal:

Parliamentary elections should be held first.After a few months,the election of a govt should be held.The reason is the new govt should be monitored by a new parliament.

Wakus SG

Bro i support any kind of idea to make this system a better one...

But really I cant help but feel we still got a few rough edges to iron out....

I really feel you can make it simpler, so that the simple forumite in SGforums can perhaps understand this better...

I can only scratch the surface of what you're proposing i think....

PRP SG

Originally posted by PRP:
Proposed Parliamentary Election

I propose all candidates for parliamentary election should stand as an individuals and should not make use of political fund or machinary.They should win on the basis of individual merit & effort & shouldn't behloden to a political party[/b]

Wakus,thanks for your msg.The above msg is part of my idea.

PRP SG

Details

Under my my proposal,the 1st stage would be parliamentary election.It should be all single seat constituencies.All parties would have to field a certain percentage of candidates from minority races.The election wouldn't involve forming a govt.

A few month after parl. elelction,the 2nd stage would be electing a political party or a group of ppl to form a govt.Under this stage,the campaigning would likely to focus on national policies & issues.All members of the govt shall automatically appointed as MP -- like the NCMP.

eyebuzz SG

Walk the talk - form a political party with the proposal.

Did the current ruling party consider your proposal?

Did any alternative parties consider your proposal?

In fact, would any one of them respond to you at all?

Is any one gonna take instruction from you? on your proposal?

No, no, I ain't pouring cold waters over thee proposal, it is not how good your proposal but whether there are like-minded people with like minded zeal to want to carry out the execution. It is the whole damn system sank into decades of political practice.

When people are working at what they have been doing all along, telling them what they should be doing instead is akin to telling a person engrossed in his computer games to stop playing to listen to you suggesting a better game in the offerings.

That's why they say... are you invited?... members have its privileges but at the same time they are 'bounded by rules', it is universal in any entities or organisations. Neutral

TooFree SG

Originally posted by PRP:
[b]Details

Under my my proposal,the 1st stage would be parliamentary election.It should be all single seat constituencies.All parties would have to field a certain percentage of candidates from minority races.The election wouldn't involve forming a govt.

A few month after parl. elelction,the 2nd stage would be electing a political party or a group of ppl to form a govt.Under this stage,the campaigning would likely to focus on national policies & issues.All members of the govt shall automatically appointed as MP -- like the NCMP.[/b]

Hi PRP,

The GRC concept has its merits when it come to fielding candidates from the minority races so as to ensure a fair and equity system truly based on meritocracy without eroding racial-cohesion. Your idea of respective parties fielding a certain percentage of minority races contesting for single seat constituencies is idealistic though not realistic. Singapore compromises of chinese majority and you are going to have a case of either all single seat constituencies won by the chinese candidates or you might face problem of segregating the constituencies into 'races'. All these are detriment to the society evolution and racial harmony.

If all individuals using own funds are to stand as candidates, it is not only going to destroy the parliamentary system that works well in a party-system parliamentary debate but also creating an unhealthy rift between the rich and poor.

On your proposal for 2nd stage election, as to whether it is a political party or a group of people that is forming a goverment, the allocation of funds to respective constituencies have not been taken into consideration. Matter gets worse if it is the latter group which form the government as they are face with the formidable task to channel limited funds into 84 wards or into their 'affiliated' party. This is likely going to create unhappiness in people living in constituency not funded time and again. If a political party is government, you are going have a similar case everywhere where funding are likely to be serve to their own party-constituency first.

There is no complete fairness in politics regardless the system.

Neutral

PRP SG

TooFree,

I don't think most of the ppl vote based on the race of a candidate.One example was JBJ could win the by-election despite his race.

Eyebuzz,
Thanks for your comments.I believe members can have a discussion on my proposal or show support.Should there be?

OO_OO_OO SG

you cant elect a party to form a governmnent if they're not gonna be MPs.\
just doesnt make sense
we ned to elect a prime minister, followed by MPs. the prime minister then chooses his ministers from the pool of MPs.

TooFree SG

Is this the final draft of your proposal?

It seem there are not enough information and yet carry a possible risk to revamp the tested and proven Westminster democracy system based on your own assumption in a multi-ethnic society like Singapore.

Neutral

PRP SG

Why not?U should think out of the box.

In fact, the MPs don't elect the govt.The party leadership selects MP candidates.So who elect whom?

PRP SG

Maybe not.

Do u think Westmister democracy very good?I believe nothing wrong to change it for improvement.

PRP SG

One merit of my proposal is that govt leaders concentrate their work on their appointment and need not take care of a constituency.That means seperating the jobs of MP & govt office holder.

PRP SG

Members,
If u agree with my idea,pls show it by doing what i said in the above msg.Would u?

PRP SG

In my proposal,I suggest the ruling party can appoint govt office holders who need not stand for election.

PRP SG

How can i attract members to read this topic? Neutral :

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