Challenge the PAP for a TV debate on estate upgrading

last SG · 2006-08-01T09:49:59+00:00

Challenge PAP for a televised debate?Nah,i dont think those PAP leaders can take it.That time Lee Kuan Yew was questioned by a group of teens on the televisi...

PRP SG

I think the oppostion should challenge PAP for a televised debate on whether the govt can use public fund unfairly (or favouring the ruling party). If the PAP dares not to take up the challenge,that would means it knows the estate upgrading policy is wrong but it still do it for some selfish reasons.

TooFree SG

Residents of PP and HG are not completely void of a chance for estate upgrading. The incumbent party mainly prioritised the timing of upgrading for citizens who voted for the them into office as a little gesture in return for their support and loyalty.

Honestly. All is fair. Neutral

MS SG

Pardon me but I do not agree with this pt of view.
Since PAP has won the majority and formed the government, they should view the entire country as one and not to prioritise based on who voted for them. If the party's management have to do that, why should we vote for PAP in future?

mett SG

Fair? It entirely defeats the purpose and meaning of a democratic nation. The government should be at the discretion of the people, not the other way round. Shouldn't it be " you upgrade for us, we'll vote for you" and NOT "we vote for you, you'll upgrade for us"? The issue is not specifically on upgrading but rather on the system and its priorities.

PRP SG

Are there any estates in the opp. wards have been upgraded?Even newer blocks in PAP wards have been upgraded,older block in opp. wards are not upgraded.Why?

Small gesture?They are big sum of money involved.

Wasn't the policy a bribe to win votes in GE by the ruling party?

Wind6 SG

Dun woryy , it will not happen Laughing

PRP SG

If the govt honestly believe the policy is fair,then it should take up my suggestion.

PRP SG

Probalby u are right,but the opp. should still try -- just like WP contested in the PM's ward.

PRP SG

Members,

If u want to see a TV debate, then do your part by showing your support.(How? Smile )Then perhaps the govt & the opposition parties leaders can hear you.

sohguanh SG

To be realistic, there is no FAIRNESS in politics. You can take a look at the political parties around the world, they always practise some favorable tactics in their favor in their rule. This is common sense and logical.

Any step of giving in to your opposition demands will mean potential future problem and may result in your party being ousted from the political arena. So I can completely understand the politik games.

If you wanna play the games, then better understand the rules. There is neber fair-ness in politik. Be it in Spore or some other countries around the world it is all the same. The only difference is in how they play the games. Some play it very bluntly while others play it very subtlely Mr. Green

PRP SG

In our parliament, PAP vs the Opposition is 82 to 2.So the govt can afford to be fair.

PRP SG

Has any opp. party call for such a debate?If not, why?Never read this forum?

UandMe SG

Fair?

Worker's Party Election spending limit for Hougang = $3/voter

PAP's Election spending limit for Hougang = $3/voter + $100m

The same goes for Potong Pasir.

Why izzit the PAP can prioritised the timing for the residents but not the winning party, who supposedly shd be the ones serving the residents?

Fair?

fudgester SG

Tell me something - are the residents of PP and HG any less Singaporean than the rest? Do they pay the same taxes as the rest of us? Do their sons sacrifice two years of their lives to defending our country like the rest of us? So they do share the same burden as everyone else, don't they? So why don't they get the same share of benefits?

Let's say several people are vying for the post of CEO in a company against an incumbent CEO. The incumbent CEO dips into the company coffers and pays off whichever directors who votes for him 'as a little gesture in return for their support and loyalty' when he wins. Would you still call this fair?

Those who say that the ruling party's actions are fair should try living in Potong Pasir or Hougang for a few years.

Let's see whether they will still hold fast to their views. Rolling Eyes

And before you say it, no, I don't live in either estate. I live in Marine Parade - a PAP stronghold, mind you.

dragg SG

how can it be fair?

if the winning party wants to reward the voters for their support they should use their own money. the money that being used for upgrading belongs to all singaporeans, not their party.

laurence82 SG

Staying Together, Moving Ahead (with PAP)

Laughing

TooFree SG

Those who argued for Potong Pasir and Hougang residents sake are commendable although in my humble opinion you are more likely to be fighting for blind justice. I share your empathy for the residents of both estates however, you have got to understand a fundamental basic which sohguanh had grasp 'there is no FAIRNESS in politics'. A similar situation will still happened with whoever is in power.

The fact remains that there is no denial of upgrading despite being given least priority. Technically or legally speaking, the incumbent government has the upper hand.

Things will never take a turn for the better by whining in forum on the political practices. Action speaks louder than words ya. Mr. Green I am sure the opposition leaders have come up with something to tackle this issue but ... somehow they may lack a 'supporting power' which can only be achieved by those who are too free. (not me, not me) Laughing

PRP SG

TooFree,

Not true that there is no fairness in politics.It is the ppl who make it unfair.

PRP SG

The PAP leaders say it would be unfair to their supporter if the estates in the opp. wards get upgrade first.

PRP SG

You can show your support by just quoting any one of my msg or any other msg which is critical of the policy.Do u want a televised debate?