This Country is F.U.C.Ked up!

last SG · 2006-09-21T20:02:32+00:00

It is a much bigger thing than wanting to be in control and power as the leaders have been used to for Singapore to stay competitive of the economic global r...

wats_up SG

Aiya, dun complain so much lar. We should all consider ourselve lucky leh.
Ppl in africa no food to eat alway got water problem.Medicial standard also sucks.South Africa even worst ,guns can be sold at under $100 sing i heard ,AK47 somemore. Rape ,murder, drugs u name it u got it.
Ppl also scare of leaving their children at home when they go to work(scare kana kidnap lor)
Friday and sat night singaporean can go out chiong until breakfast. There u go out at night later kana sodo by one eye black monster... Twisted Evil

mrsmall SG

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Originally posted by [email protected]:
R you a Malay? Malays got free education and special privileges from our government and they should already jolly well shut their mouths cos they are generally lazy and stupid, can only blame on themselves.
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you stupid, he speaks the true

but every body pay all what our hard earned money
to govt by directly or indirectly
finally we dun have anything
example ppl make baby also very difficult in sg Mad

everything increase except income
everytime ppl support the govt in election
but this govt suck all of our blood until the last drop
this ppl dun care abt us Sad

only the cabinet ppl rich and worry free in sg

only we can pride of our internal security thats all

fudgester SG

Damn... I couldn't have put that statement in red any better.

Add to that: and those who do think of the red pill get laughed and mocked at by the majority who blindly choose the blue pill.

Gedanken SG

Ah well, could be worse. We could lose the power to vote with our feet. The most they’ve done in that department is pull out lame crap like “stayers and quitters”.

A dot dot B dot dot SG

You think NUS_superstar is racist?

Check this out

http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=209035&page=0

kecang_puteh SG

I wonder what the PAP has done? Are they corrupt? Have they run down our economy? Are we having poor education? I would certainly prefer a superior government than the right to criticise them, since they have done a relatively good job.

qpicanto SG

put it this way, if a private company need both a external and internal auditors to checks on the accounts what more a nation's affairs.

duotiga83 SG

internally customers and employees give feedback to improve the system....

freedom4ever SG

which country govt dun have corruption? is just that they haven't get caught yet. and in singapore, if the govt really got caught for corruption, what can you do?

trendz SG

hmmm...

spinsugar SG

Originally posted by kecang_puteh:

Are we having poor education?

Oh. My. God. Do you know how bad it is in most government schools compared to a SAP school? Our education system absolutely does not recognize late bloomers, just the typically "smart" kids who memorize well. It's all just cram school, route learning. Such late bloomers are regularly told they're not good enough just because the school is concerned about their overall aggregate.. my case is classic - I scored poorly in maths but my other subjects were A1-B3.. SAP school still forced me to drop Art Elective Programme, A maths and only allowed me to take a single science.. wtf is that.. I still dun understand the logic in making me drop all those subjects, why not just put me in maths remedial class? - especially AEP .. it's the subject I was best at! Stupid system.

Then my younger sister - she was in normal academic @ a govt sch.. From sec 1-4, her english was far better than her teachers! The teachers couldn't even string a grammatically correct sentence together.. on top of that, they taught the wrong pronounciation/grammar to the students. If my sister tried to correct them, they sent her our of the class! how can teachers be allowed teach subjects that they're obviously not qualified to teach? In 2001, my sis clinched 1st prize at an interschool english competition.. none of the other students in her school even got consolation.. but the school did not even recognize or reward her! Fricking incompetent.. And that's just the surface.

She's now studying overseas, where her talent is actually being recognized and properly nurtured. I'm gonna join her again soon to complete my studies, once I save up enough money!

There is alot of talent in Singapore.. but our education system ignores a large portion of it.

I would certainly prefer a superior government than the right to criticise them, since they have done a relatively good job.

No one disputes the govt done a good job in the past. Now that we know they're good at handling our economy, don't you think it''s time to look at Singapore's social growth? Culture and arts - give Singapore a soul? So that when people say they're proud to be Singaporean, they can really understand what it means. And it's not just about the right to criticize them, it's about having a choice - a say in how OUR country is run. This is stuff that affects us, hello! Otherwise, it's not really our country. It's the Lee Family's country.

LazerLordz SG

I had to spend hours trying to correct the grammatical errors made by my tuition kids and they had the cheek to insist that their teachers were correct.

Look at this way, half of the teachers today have an atrocious standard of English that would make me shudder. Some of them have no inkling nor the ability to differentiate between American and English at all..

I'm not surprised at all..

mistyblue SG

Hey good luck with your studies...
I swapped from govt school, to govt funded school, to privately run SAP school, finally to enroll into commercial school with foreign teachers.
Big big big difference.

If we as sg people cannot make comments, or bochap until don't want to make comments, then we might as well migrate cause we cannot care if this place sink or explode. That is the day, locals give up on Sg.

charlize SG

Hanar, hanar.

Your English is the best lah. Laughing

TooFree SG

Originally posted by spinsugar:
We live in a zoo. A giant birdcage. We are farmed like animals.. in a zoo, the animals don't have a say in how the show is run.. But once domesticated, we have a hard time letting go of our creature comforts..and most of us fear we cannot survive in the wild. Some, like myself, are lucky (or unlucky depending on how you see it) to realise what's going on and yearn for our freedom, a voice, our right.

Each individual can make a difference, but we cannot hope to be a one-man/woman army. [b]An ironic tragedy is.. while the opposition has ideas, too many people either do not want to get involved, or do exactly what the PAP does - which is to believe the mainstream media's portrayal of the opposition as a bunch of bumbling fools without bothering to find out more about ideas behind the faces.

But is that what YOU think?? Or what the government WANTS you to think? If u truly feel the PAP's arrogance and power is a threat to Singapore's future, what are you doing about it as an individual? Certainly not taking action - at least that's what the opposition's doing. Why simply diss the opposition? Why not find out more about them? Talk to them? Get involved, pitch in, even? A toothpick on its own can be broken easily. but put a bunch of them together, and they will be 1,000 times harder to break. WE the people are the reason the opposition cannot succeed... because although alot of us have a few common goals (bring PAP's absolute power under control by setting a system of checks n balances), we don't want to get involved! We're like.. trembling obedient ninnies who have seen how the opposition is persecuted mercilessly by the PAP, and don't want to be in that position!

Most Singaporeans complain and complain, but still choose the blue pill. And that's something the PAP can count on every single time. But I know what I want, and what I'm going to do. Do you?[/b]

Let me give the other side of the coin to achieve a balance and fairer picture.

Your fear for Singaporeans without having the courage to rise to the challenge from the outside dynamic world is uncalled for. The rise of globalisation coupled with the harsh reality of life will certainly encourage potential entrepreneur to take on the world stage and push man to their upmost limits. This is the brilliant works of the economic system and need not neccessarily be in the form of political reform to achieve the effect. Sadly but truthfully, terrorism is another distinct problem in this century and potentially a crucial factor that may deter any country wishing to grant complete democracy freedom without thinking twice, much more a multi-ethical society like ours. Lives are at stakes not rights.

Singapore is a multi-racial society, a fact which many overlooked or choose to neglect in the course of political reformative. In terms of diplomacy, Singapore has insofar done pretty well but the breach and nothing can be more worse is the outbreak of a civil war. So before we yearn for more freedom of speech or rights, perhaps we should first examine the context and nature of our nation. All political party have their own ideas and system that they wanted to contribute, henceforth, the onus is for the respective party to convince the masses with their ideological system. Simply pinpointing out at fellow Singaporeans for being cowardly and not getting involved is not the way to do things. In my humble opinion, it is neither the flaw of the system nor the political apathy of the people but a first class opposition has yet to emerge.

Neutral

kecang_puteh SG

No system is perfect. Maybe you should look at the whole or compare the system to other countries. From what I know, our literacy rates are much higher than the US and they even replicated our Maths teaching system because Singapore students consistently scored high marks in international competitions.

Are you sure that if another party takes over, they will improve the system? If you have a better idea on how to improve the system, maybe you should suggest it to the authorities. And don't tell me they won't listen to you, because there's no guarantee that another government will listen to you either.

Maybe it's time. But what do you think you should do? Overthrow the government just because it's time to look at Singapore's social growth? That would be abit extreme. Try to lobby for it through the right channels. Anyway, this is only what you think and not the majority of the people, right? I believe the government tries to listen to the people, but they can't please everybody since there are so many differing opinions. The people have chosen who they want to run the government and I seriously can't see any other party good enough to run Singapore.

spinsugar SG

How then does a first class opposition emerge if expression and mainstream media is so tightly controlled by the government? How then, with the grossly disproportionate coverage, would you know that what you see on TV and read in the news is the absolute truth? Have you done more research on the opposition to come to such an educated decision?

*chuckles*
during an ice-breaking session in a Singapore school, if a student says, "My ambition is to be a politician", the whole class will fall silent. Even the teacher would be at a loss for words, at least for a while. It is simply unheard of, not encouraged, not discussed. These sorts of things have to be nurtured from young.. The PAP is smart, of course - if people don't have opinions, they don't' have ideas. If they don't have ideas, there can be little room for political development outside what the PAP desires.

Get the picture?

We Singapore citizens are just not involved enough with our country's affairs.. and the PAP has traditionally been happy to let it stay that way. The most is we flip thru the govt-controlled papers and grumble about policies we don't agree with, but our opinions stay behind closed doors. We are given the illusion of having a choice - lengthy debates about our country's policies are published in the news one day, following week, the news has suddenly and mysteriously come up with a statistic that "most" singaporeans agree with that policy. Laughing If we don't question that although we see it, who's fault is that?

Let me put it this way.. We are not mature as a society yet, although not completely of our own doing, because we are not even aware of our personal rights. It is because of our immaturity as a nation that PAP cannot loosen its hold completely, and suddenly. However, that does not mean that they should not do so gradually. We need progress, and progress of a nation is not just limited to dollars and cents. A nation needs a heart, too.. a soul..an identity.. something Singapore is still sorely lacking.

All that stuff on TV and news about violent riots in the name of freedom is bullsh!t. Come on, give your own Singaporeans some credit. We're tame compared to people in other countries. If our police is so ... resourceful ... as to be able to catch teenagers in parks and issue warning letters, and harass key opposition leaders day and night, why can't they oversee a small peaceful demonstration in a blue moon? Obviously it's not that it can't work.. it's just that some people don't want you to believe it can work. Laughing

spinsugar SG

Overthrow the government? Where did you get that idea from? hahaha.. read my posts again. =)

kecang_puteh SG

No, I haven't. Have you? Maybe you can post some of the links here so that I can read. Maybe I will change sides and join your party.

Well, I guess peaceful demonstrations may work to a certain extent. But these kind of situations are normally emotionally charged and may de-generate into chaos and violence, as had happened during the IMF meets in Prague and Hong Kong. So, it probably would pose a risk to public safety and order.

kecang_puteh SG

Originally posted by spinsugar:

[b]Overthrow the government? Where did you get that idea from? hahaha.. read my posts again. =)[/b]

Sorry lah, no time to read all your posts. I think I made an assumption there

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