Not A Word Of Thanks From 'Xenophobic' Man

Anycall SG

I didn't say that. Just that not everyone thinks the same. The ang moh guy making so much noise because of one incident. Please.

And from what you said, your ancestors also from china right? So you believe that woman should only stay at home and be housewife and give birth. You must also sit with one leg up on the chair when you go out and eat coz that's what they do in china. Since you say we can't lose our identities from china.

Looks like you are the one who is contradicting yourself here. That's why I say the only person you are insulting is yourself and your intelligence.

I think I'm expressing my views based on a chinese singaporean. While you seem to be influenced by western cultures. If you think they are that great then I do hope you go live with them. Let's see if they treat you with all the fabulous positives you keep harping on.

One less banana doesnt make much of a difference here anyway. We are already bringing in so many to re populate ourselves Smile

Gedanken SG

I acknowledge that you didn't say that all caucasians like that. Despite that, though, bringing his race into the discussion is a red herring.

You seem to have missed the point here. Buxton's aim was not to reply in courteous manner - it was to highlight Xenophobic's discourtesy. I'm not saying that Buxton was courteous in his response. He refused to be apathetic to the situation, and his unwillingness to take things lying down is something I support.

SilverPal SG

No no no, you got it all wrong.

According him:
China=taiwan=singapore
social values=> same
we are all chinamen.
Confucious was singaporean. He probably voted for LKY.

SilverPal SG

Thank you for you honest answer. I do apologise for being rude and defensive about this issue tho.

I do agree that while standing up for oneself, as Boxton did is commendable, but blowing up this issue is much the opposite of what Buxton was trying to bring across to us, the contrast between his manners and our lack of.

Rock^Star SG

Guys, don't bicker anymore.....each has their valid points.

On a personal note, I think the ang moh guy has over-reacted by demanding courtesy.

That xenophobic man has also painted a bad picture of S'poreans.

Let's face it.....S'poreans just cannot be bothered to say thank you as often as they should. It may be the same in other countries.

My auntie works as a secretary in the States and she always tells me how fake the Americans are. Oh her husband is American btw. Well, it's the same the world over.

Gedanken SG

You obviously haven't been paying attention - LKY voted for him. Mr. Green

Anycall SG

That's what I've trying to explain to this Gendanken fella. I wanted to end it he just keeps on and on. Hope that fella will one day see the light of reason.

Gedanken SG

The question is whether it's his manners in contrast to ours. All the way from primary school, weren't we taught to say thanks?

My read on this is that Xenophobic man failed to show basic manners, and he did something about it, and if anything, he's done us a favour by pointing this out.

Gedanken SG

Actually, I do rather enjoy kicking back once in a while, putting a leg up and paddling that rice down with chopsticks. Mr. Green

Seriously, though, was keeping the woman at home an ethical value along the lines of courtesy and filial piety? I don't think there's any contradiction here.

If "thank you" is indeed a Western thing, I'm just wondering where "xie xie" came from. care to offer any explanations for that?

Now, that "if you don't agree with me, go away" attitude of yours is an unfortunately Singaporean trait. Laughing

Gedanken SG

Did he chase Xenophobe down demanding thanks, or did he go up and ask Xenophobe what he said?

I think you can read and find out the answer to that one, and the answer shows that your question has no bearing on the matter.

Gedanken SG

I never did care for hit-and-run tactics. If you're going to say something, front up to it. Smile

Anycall SG

And so is the trait of some singaporeans saying thank you and some who don't. This is the same for any country. No place in the world will be as perfect as the one you have in mind.

Yet it seems you are the one who is so disenchanted with us local singaporeans and the rudeness of a few. You do seem to have nothing but praises for western cultures.

C'mon get a grip on reality here. you will face this problem anywhere else in the world. Do you expect a thank you from every foreigner you hold the door for every single time? Smile

Gedanken SG

Sure would be a nice world if people, both locals and foreigners, did that, wouldn't it?

I don't see why you insist on making it an us-and-them issue. I've already pointed out that courtesy is a valued aspect of both Eastern and Western cultures, so why have you come out with this warped conclusion that I think Western cultures are better? Confused It says a lot more about you than it does about me.

Anycall SG

Maybe its because this foreigner is making too big a deal just like you?

Gedanken SG

Well, as I said before, would the substance of the matter been any different had the fellow's name been Tan, Ramachandran or Aziz instead of Buxton? You're chasing a red herring here.

Anycall SG

ok, if you say so Laughing

Gedanken SG

And indeed I do say so. Race is not the issue here - a lack of courtesy and decency is. Singapore's progressed economically and yes, there are some Singaporeans who take the trouble to treat people around them decently. However, between incidents like this, regular complaints about fit young people taking up seats and leaving old people and pregnant women to stand on the bus or MRT, and the other one a few months ago where people in a lift saw a paramedic soming and hit the "door close" button, you'd really have to wonder if Singapore is a real nation or a bunch of assorted individuals who look out after number one, devil take the hindmost.

Anyway, I'll check in on this thread in the morning. Do try to do something other than clutch at straws. Smile

Anycall SG

yep you are the only one who is right here. Whatever anyone else says is just wrong. I guess we have all seen the errors of our ways. Laughing

Gedanken SG

Oh, how very good. Run out of ammo, so you have to resort to, "yes, I'm wrong - big deal".

Now we know why you're backing Mr Xenophobe - you do pretty much what he does. Laughing

Rock^Star SG

Well, I'm really not supporting anyone here. I would like to reiterate once again that in my honest opinion, each has valid points.

What the two of you are doing is trying to wrestle each other down, to the point where it reminds me of WWE. Only difference here is that I see kids, instead of adults.

Many Muslims oppose Israel's war against Lebanon but have they ever considered what it feels like to live in a region where your neighbours cannot wait to exterminate you? Each has their valid points.

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